Personally I'd be very, very surprised if this was a stampede having heard some of the witness accounts but not leaping to any conclusions as they can be unreliable.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
its worthwhile noting that in almost every case like this, the explanation of events and perpetrators that we get a few minutes after the event, are proven false when all the facts are know (and later revised).
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
its worthwhile noting that in almost every case like this, the explanation of events and perpetrators that we get a few minutes after the event, are proven false when all the facts are know (and later revised).
I would preach patience here.
Preach whatever you want. This event doesn't change the broader, global problem, and the direction the west is heading.
RE: RE: Well it will clean up the problems in the middle east faster Â
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
Mike, you should weigh in on football topics. It is, after all, a football message board. It would be a shame if you only had a political stance (especially on such a hot-button topic) to stand on.
Early reports in these situations are often false. Best to wait for more info before drawing conclusions.
knock it off.
It's great to see the early conclusions drawn, outrage reached, and then embarrassment when people realize their comments are here for eternity or until the thread inevitably becomes political and then gets deleted and then only existing on Brett's personal hard drive.
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
RE: RE: Brett's personal hard drive is the last place I'd want to be Â
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
mu = him
RE: RE: RE: Well it will clean up the problems in the middle east faster Â
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
Mike, you should weigh in on football topics. It is, after all, a football message board. It would be a shame if you only had a political stance (especially on such a hot-button topic) to stand on.
I suggest you stick to football topics and not read threads on current events and terrorism if you don't expect to see some posts somewhat political (or religious) related.
Manchester suspected terror incident: what we know so far
Kevin Rawlinson
Here’s a summary of what we know so far after the incident in Manchester this evening:
Police have confirmed that at least 19 people have been killed in a suspected terror attack at an Ariana Grande concert at Manchester Arena.
Officers said a further 50 were injured.
One explosion was reported to have hit the foyer of the building at about 10:30pm, British Transport police said.
Manchester Arena said the incident took place “outside the venue in a public space”.
Multiple witnesses said they heard an explosion, with one telling the Guardian the blast shook the building.
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
I don't deserve this.
Not surprising that the same usual suspects chime Â
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
I don't deserve this.
Well you do have this strange ability to re-post entire threads that had been deleted. Think of it as a compliment.
an attack pre planned to occur as people streamed out of the concert, i think we will see POST concert and sports event security become a much bigger thing. CNN saying suicide bomber now.
Coming from you a compliment! No seriously, CNN is forever jumping the gun and totally wrong. The rush to report is more important than than waiting and getting it right.
RE: Fox reporting, saying police are reporting... Â
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
Mike, you should weigh in on football topics. It is, after all, a football message board. It would be a shame if you only had a political stance (especially on such a hot-button topic) to stand on.
I suggest you stick to football topics and not read threads on current events and terrorism if you don't expect to see some posts somewhat political (or religious) related.
Since your recent history includes zero football contributions, I feel fine about my footing... on a football message board.
You know the cause of the explosion already?
Very sad.
Almost definitely terrorism. Possible it was a panic of some kind though.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
I guess a bomb with shrapnel (ie nails).
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with the British helping out.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
I would preach patience here.
You usually don't get your pants taken off after being trampled.
Also I saw Manchester tube station bomb found reports. A lot of these end up being bogus, obviously.
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with the British helping out.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
its worthwhile noting that in almost every case like this, the explanation of events and perpetrators that we get a few minutes after the event, are proven false when all the facts are know (and later revised).
I would preach patience here.
Preach whatever you want. This event doesn't change the broader, global problem, and the direction the west is heading.
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with the British helping out.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
Mike, you should weigh in on football topics. It is, after all, a football message board. It would be a shame if you only had a political stance (especially on such a hot-button topic) to stand on.
knock it off.
It's great to see the early conclusions drawn, outrage reached, and then embarrassment when people realize their comments are here for eternity or until the thread inevitably becomes political and then gets deleted and then only existing on Brett's personal hard drive.
You're ruining it.
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
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Might get something stuck tobyou.
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
mu = him
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with the British helping out.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
Mike, you should weigh in on football topics. It is, after all, a football message board. It would be a shame if you only had a political stance (especially on such a hot-button topic) to stand on.
I suggest you stick to football topics and not read threads on current events and terrorism if you don't expect to see some posts somewhat political (or religious) related.
Kevin Rawlinson
Here’s a summary of what we know so far after the incident in Manchester this evening:
Police have confirmed that at least 19 people have been killed in a suspected terror attack at an Ariana Grande concert at Manchester Arena.
Officers said a further 50 were injured.
One explosion was reported to have hit the foyer of the building at about 10:30pm, British Transport police said.
Manchester Arena said the incident took place “outside the venue in a public space”.
Multiple witnesses said they heard an explosion, with one telling the Guardian the blast shook the building.
Great addition to this thread.
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Might get something stuck tobyou.
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
I don't deserve this.
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Might get something stuck tobyou.
agree, it would be awful it's his shadow BBI site where he's a moderator and has conversations where people take mu seriously. anyway, it's not me living there. It's the people on the jump to conclusions mat.
I don't deserve this.
Well you do have this strange ability to re-post entire threads that had been deleted. Think of it as a compliment.
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They are generally noteably wrong.
Great addition to this thread.
Coming from you a compliment! No seriously, CNN is forever jumping the gun and totally wrong. The rush to report is more important than than waiting and getting it right.
Even younger. Grande appeals to girls of all ages.
I'm sick over it.
IS jihadi claims responsibility.
Was a suicide bomber.
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Hashtags and platitudes ignoring the link between religious doctrine and what people actually believe, to follow.
IS jihadi claims responsibility.
Was a suicide bomber.
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Hashtags and platitudes ignoring the link between religious doctrine and what people actually believe, to follow.
I guess the blew up balloon and speaker theory are done.
God bless the victims.
IS jihadi claims responsibility.
Was a suicide bomber.
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Hashtags and platitudes ignoring the link between religious doctrine and what people actually believe, to follow.
link pleease
smh
Sounds about right from those scumbags.
smh
The Amish are over do - you never know
Is this sarcasm? I can't tell
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In comment 13478716 River said:
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with the British helping out.
It will have to get a lot worse in the UK and apparently in France, Sweden, Germany, Belgium and Italy, before anyone does much more than just go after networks and perpetrators.
The radicalization in the mosques and the stuff coming out of the mouths of the religious leaders in these countries, is toxic. Meanwhile, they are passing laws to limit and arrest people over the free speech of people criticizing the ideology behind terrorism as "Islamophobia."
One only needs to look at what happened after Charlie Hebdo to see what it will take for people to wake up.
Mike, you should weigh in on football topics. It is, after all, a football message board. It would be a shame if you only had a political stance (especially on such a hot-button topic) to stand on.
I suggest you stick to football topics and not read threads on current events and terrorism if you don't expect to see some posts somewhat political (or religious) related.
Since your recent history includes zero football contributions, I feel fine about my footing... on a football message board.
You really are a stain.