1. The reporters will bombard me with questions about why I didn't go yesterday. That is more of a hassle than the entire OTA is worth.
2. WRs are not allowed to run routes.
3. The OTA is for rehabbing and conditioning. I don't need rehabbing and I am already in good enough condition.
4. It is voluntary and I've already been to enough of them to decide how much I will benefit from attending.
5. My presence will deflect the attention of coaches from the new players who need to be evaluated.
6. There is always the risk of injury.
Feel free to add your own reasons or comment on the listed ones.
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to 1 game for all it's worth, huh. We need to make the playoffs first for Beckham to get a shot at a makeup game. He's been plenty prepared each of the last 3 seasons. He's the last player I'm worried about.
I was being sarcastic
Apologies. I'll just consider my post preemptive instead.
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He wants a contract extension.
Exactly. The biggest reason. This is the only leverage he has right now, and it isn't much.
OBJ and Sterling both blew it vs GreenBay. The Miami boat trip before the playoffs was stupid as well BUT only because of the big drops.
Lets face it, OBJ doesn't need to be there from a football standpoint but maybe from a personal, professional, leadership standpoint he could benefit from attending?
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Reason #7
Milton : 7:50 am : link : reply
He wants a contract extension.
Exactly. The biggest reason. This is the only leverage he has right now, and it isn't much.
Then show up and let them know you've learned your lesson and are serious. Pouting just shows the same lack of maturity.
Maybe before this new system but I think Tyron Smith too, maybe others as well.
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Reason #7
Milton : 7:50 am : link : reply
He wants a contract extension.
Exactly. The biggest reason. This is the only leverage he has right now, and it isn't much.
Then show up and let them know you've learned your lesson and are serious. Pouting just shows the same lack of maturity.
It's a business move. He's easily in the top 3 WRs in the league, if not number 1. He makes 1.8 mil this year. Then next year can be optioned and underpaid. The following year he can be franchised. What little leverage he has he's using. Guess what happens if he ever underperforms his salary? Ask Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, Mario Manningham, etc. Nobody seems to complain when the teams make business moves, only the players.
IE if he tears his knee, it could cost him literally everything.
That was disorganized team activity.
On September 7, 2016, Kyle Long signed a four year, $40 million contract extension with the Bears on September 6, 2016. Long received $30 million in guarantees including a $7.5 million signing bonus.
Get a new line, you've mentioned this now on like 3 threads.
Not being there doesn't = selfish. Players skip these all the time for various reasons. Fans care way more about it than they should and if applying a label makes you feel better, have at it I guess.
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....the Dolan Twins.
Get a new line, you've mentioned this now on like 3 threads.
He's really been hoping for a bite on this joke...
It was bad enough he did it - he had to drag the young receivers who idolize him, and would do anything he says, with him?
As PaulN points out, hes our best player and is not leading like you want a franchise player to. Thats why Marshall said it was a stupid thing to do.
That Miami trip reaked of guys celebrating just making the Playoffs. Not good enough in NY. Its Championship or bust.
You're a dipshit
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Anyone making it one needs to relax.
You're a dipshit
Haha. One of the worst posters in the history of bbi with another gem. What number is this latest handle? Pathetic.
There is no in between if you want to be great and win a title, you put in the work every chance you get or you're just a phony who talks about "wanting it".
There is no in between if you want to be great and win a title, you put in the work every chance you get or you're just a phony who talks about "wanting it".
I don't think "not working for it" is an issue with him - he works his ass off. I do think he needs to be more cognizant of the team concept here and I'd have preferred to see him there from the jump to put some of this BS to rest, but it's also not the biggest deal in the world.
DRC seemed to do just fine last year despite missing some OTA time.
Beckham is under a microscope constantly, which comes with the territory of being an elite WR in this league. I don't think anyone can ever accuse him of not being a hard-worker, though. You can't get to the level he's at without being really dedicated to your craft.
Then you are missing a big big picture item here. He's mentally fragile and that appears to be getting worse, not better. He did the same thing in college in big games, he shrunk and in his biggest stage he fell flat on his fucking face because he's weak upstairs and not willing to prepare like a professional.
No offense, but that's one of the most foolish things I've ever read on BBI. This didn't happen in a big game?
OBJ Dropsie - ( New Window )
Pretty selective definitions here.
OBJ Packing It In For The Season - ( New Window )
Pretty selective definitions here.
You are right. It is a big game/stage. But it is the regular season. Perhaps it is just me who considers a playoff game as being a larger stage than the regular season?
1 game is an awfully small sample size.
Jerry Rice had some pretty nondescript playoff performances early in his career, too. How'd that turn out?
Let's not forget that the one handed catch also came in prime time against Dallas with the whole world watching.
I don't think Beckham is a guy who can't handle the spotlight.
Pretty selective definitions here.
These people probably wanted to hang Eli in Times Square after his first playoff game. No one thinks Odell is perfect. No one thinks he's caught every pass thrown at him during his NFL career. But this idea that he "shrinks" in the biggest games (Joey went so far as to include his LSU career to make his "point") is simply asinine. And in order to feed this storyline, it means people have to pretend that no game other than the Green Bay game has been important or a "big game". That's undeniably foolish.
1 game is an awfully small sample size.
Jerry Rice had some pretty nondescript playoff performances early in his career, too. How'd that turn out?
You are 100% correct. But in a league referred to as the Not For Long league, we don't have a larger sample size to draw from. There is no guarantee that OBJ will have a HoF career with multiple playoff appearances. Look at Brandon Marshall. He's never been to the playoffs, yet he has compiled a career of stats. I certainly hope that OBJ has many playoff opportunities. But to get to the point of the thread, it starts with a commitment to your team now during voluntary practices. It starts with a commitment to Eli at Duke to build the chemistry with new teammates.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I watched that game just like every other Giants fan on the planet.
1 game is an awfully small sample size.
Jerry Rice had some pretty nondescript playoff performances early in his career, too. How'd that turn out?
You are 100% correct. But in a league referred to as the Not For Long league, we don't have a larger sample size to draw from. There is no guarantee that OBJ will have a HoF career with multiple playoff appearances. Look at Brandon Marshall. He's never been to the playoffs, yet he has compiled a career of stats. I certainly hope that OBJ has many playoff opportunities. But to get to the point of the thread, it starts with a commitment to your team now during voluntary practices. It starts with a commitment to Eli at Duke to build the chemistry with new teammates.
Hey, if it were up to me - Odell would have been there from day 1. I think he needs to realize that people are searching for reasons to rip into him and that he's got to stop arming them.
Just in general, I think he needs to buy into the team concept more. Not that I think he's a bad teammate - but I think he could learn a lot from Brandon Marshall and the transformation he's made.
Marshall has only been here briefly and hasn't even played a game for us yet - but you can tell he's a guy who really supports his teammates and it doesn't seem like there's much "selfish" left in him.
It's something that undoubtedly comes with age - but I am hoping that he can help Odell accelerate the process.
I think most of the headlines that surround Odell are of the "big fucking deal..." variety - but I also think he continues to give his detractors reasons to get on his case and would be better served just playing good soldier a bit more.
I see him drawing a double-team consistently and think that should count as having at least some impact. When you leave the other 10 guys on the field to fend with 9, you've done a good thing.
Of course he left some plays out there, but everyone does, especially on that day.
No big deal - get 'em next time.
Team loss...
I would prefer Odell attend each session of OTAs, but they're voluntary. So that's that. But he can't live his life based on what will get him the least amount of criticism.
Marty [/q]
I think the boat trip it DID impact his performance, but it's more than the trip it's the pressure it - as predicted - that came down on him. IOW's a secondary or tangential cause COULD HAVE ruined out play off run.
I think we'd be better off if he made every workout, but his is on the heels of him missing the workouts with Eli at Duke.
Timing is everything between a WR and the QB, how can he miss out on a chance to perfect that delicate balance?
Every moment he can spend on advancing his craft - noo matter how slight - should be latched onto and exploited.
The Met Pitcher was so in love with his celebrity status that he neglected the craft that gave him that status. I worry that that's what we're seeing.
The man has a chance to make 100 million contract and just as much from commercials. He can be recognized around the world...yet he can't make it to Duke and now he can't make (with all the rest of his mates) to the voluntaries.
I think there's guys here who have a need to disagree and put down posters, contrafians, Nihilists because I just cant' - even straining - see why they wouldn't want the guy catching passes and working on his timing with Eli.
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Then you are missing a big big picture item here. He's mentally fragile and that appears to be getting worse, not better. He did the same thing in college in big games, he shrunk and in his biggest stage he fell flat on his fucking face because he's weak upstairs and not willing to prepare like a professional.
No offense, but that's one of the most foolish things I've ever read on BBI. This didn't happen in a big game?