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NFT: Royals at Yankees: Rubber match

superspynyg : 5/24/2017 3:46 pm
Hammel (1-5 6.38 era) vs Severino (2-2 3.64 era). 7:05pm start time.
Yanks had a late game collapse yesterday. We need to take this game.

In the rumor mill, I have read a few articles that speculate a possible Garret Cole reunion. Not sure that Pirates will part with Cole right now and I doubt we pony up the prospects to get him.

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Love the Didi.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 9:12 pm : link
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RE: RE: Clipard Betance  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13481386 adamg said:
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here or do you let Sevey stay out there?



Give him 1 more batter


Just let him pitch.
Gardner RBI single  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 9:20 pm : link
3-0 Yanks
Got a big break on a k not called  
micky : 5/24/2017 9:20 pm : link
And gets run in on next pitch..lucky
Strahm got  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:22 pm : link
umped. We'll take it...as Gardy comes through.
Awesome strike out  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
got umped and recovered.

One more. Let's go.
100 mph fastball on his 112th pitch  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
Severino is incredible
Yanks pitchers have gotten jobbed by the umps  
mfsd : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
a few times the last couple weeks - bout time we got one back
100 mph fastball on the outside corner  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:37 pm : link
phew... this guy is a revelation this year. Really showed up so far.

8 shutout. Great game. Huge uplift for the team.
2nd best outing of the year  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:40 pm : link
by a Yankees pitcher. Only Tanaka's CG against Sale was better.
Betances looks good  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:47 pm : link
good location on that break ball for the first pitch.
Severino has such great potential. What a commanding start.  
yatqb : 5/24/2017 9:49 pm : link
And the Royals sure helped. After letting the leadoff man get on a few times late, the next batter swung at the first pitch each time, lofting lazy fly ball outs.
Betances just showed how scary our bullen can be  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
And he's just one piece of it
Betances unhittable in the 9th  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
strikes out the side. Yanks now 2.5 ahead in the East
Dellin dealin'  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
Good win!
Betances is pitching angry  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 9:52 pm : link
Levine you mad genius!

Great pitching tonight.
Ballgame!  
mfsd : 5/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
When Dellin has command of both fastball and curve, he's unhittable. Great bounce back win. Let's take the series tomorrow afternoon!
Nasty.  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
16-18 mph difference between FB and slider/breaking ball. Makes good MLB hitters look foolish.
This is the Severino  
dune69 : 5/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
that could be a #1 or #2 some day. Great job!!
I didn't have the sound on  
mattnyg05 : 5/24/2017 9:55 pm : link
So I don't know if they mentioned it on air but Lorenzo Cain literally mouthed "I can't hit that guy" after betances whiffed him there. Pretty funny, can't remember seeing that before
Severino could turn out to be a legit ace  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2017 9:56 pm : link
His stuff is just overpowering. If his command is sharp, he's damned near unhittable.
Didi is not only playing well-  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:02 pm : link
He seems to be a positive presence with a sense of humor. I'm not a big emoji guy myself, but Didi is making a fun thing out of it...
RE: Severino could turn out to be a legit ace  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13481460 Greg from LI said:
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His stuff is just overpowering. If his command is sharp, he's damned near unhittable.


Yeah- the talking heads were saying this is why you stick with him as a starter and don't move him to the pen.

I'll confess I have probably been on both sides of that debate...
Grow the Kids this year.  
River : 5/24/2017 10:15 pm : link
Severino,Montgomery,Adams,

Should give Green and Cessa a shot too.

Michell is a lost cause as a starter.

A week until May ends and the Yankees are in 1st place. Nice!
Sevy's on the way  
Phil in LA : 5/24/2017 10:16 pm : link
To being an ace. A couple hiccups where he got squeezed, but way more good than bad these days.
I wouldn't give up on Mitchell as yet, since he was out all  
yatqb : 5/24/2017 10:18 pm : link
last year. But he has an uphill climb as a starter. Could wind up as a swing man, like Warren was at one time.

I am hoping that Adams forces his way into the rotation by next spring...taking over for CC.
RE: Sevy's on the way  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13481510 Phil in LA said:
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To being an ace. A couple hiccups where he got squeezed, but way more good than bad these days.


Cain of KC re Sevy: I don't know where they found that guy but he's pretty darn good.
Sounds like it is Ref who is coming back up  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:26 pm : link
per YES.
The Yankees could have a truly incredible  
chopperhatch : 5/24/2017 10:40 pm : link
Infield situation if Bird can get back on track at the very least when he gets back and if Gleyber is the real deal. Could have a potential all star at every position.
Big win  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 11:31 pm : link
and always great to see Sevy throw another gem.
Yankees minor league notes - "The Domingos"  
GiantJake : 5/25/2017 1:27 am : link
RHP Domingo German threw 7 shutout innings, 3 hits, 10 K in his 2nd start since being called up to AAA. He pitched in the Futures Game in 2014 before the Yanks acquired him from the Marlins. He had TJ surgery two years ago and the Yanks have been patient and hopefully their patience will pay off. The Yanks like him as a starter, but he could also eventually help the big club in the bullpen if necessary.

RHP Domingo Acevedo threw 7.1 shutout innings, 3 hits, 9Ks. He is 2-0 since being promoted to AA Trenton and has a 0.00 ERA. Acevedo is 6'7" and throws hard. He's another guy that could project as a dominant reliever if he doesn't continue to find success as a starter.

That's 14 2/3 straight innings of first-rate pitching...  
manh george : 5/25/2017 1:33 am : link
from the starters. Yeah, KC's offense sucks, but Montgomery was ample before Severino was amazing. He still needs to build a little more stamina and he will be a solid #3-4 type starter. His BA against this year is an impressive .228. He has given up most of his runs late in his starts, so that should improve as he strengthens.
yay Seve! And thank you Joe G for leaving him in for the 8th  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2017 7:59 am : link
nice piece of hitting by Sanchez and Judge on their singles. Sanchez manufactures a run. Didi is just sizzling. It's what I love about this team. They can bash you, but they can scrape up runs with baserunning and athleticism
Seems teams have figured out  
section125 : 5/25/2017 8:33 am : link
for now to throw lots of breaking balls to the Yanks in any ount. The offspeed stuff is giving them fits and running up the Ks.

Hitting coaches need to work on Judge and the low outside pitch. He takes an awful lot of those for called 3rd strikes. We know he is doing better because he is laying of those regularly, but with two strikes he has to start punching them to right. Better than just looking at them. Might have to do with learning the strike zone down there, but the umps are consistently calling that pitch. He is a special player and hate to see him go down looking.
Judge is getting a rookie strike zone right now  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 8:55 am : link
Borderline pitches are almost invariably being called against him.
Looks like the OP was right, it was the rubber match  
YAJ2112 : 5/25/2017 9:03 am : link
today's game has already been postponed
RE: Seems teams have figured out  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2017 9:06 am : link
In comment 13481728 section125 said:
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for now to throw lots of breaking balls to the Yanks in any ount. The offspeed stuff is giving them fits and running up the Ks.

Hitting coaches need to work on Judge and the low outside pitch. He takes an awful lot of those for called 3rd strikes. We know he is doing better because he is laying of those regularly, but with two strikes he has to start punching them to right. Better than just looking at them. Might have to do with learning the strike zone down there, but the umps are consistently calling that pitch. He is a special player and hate to see him go down looking.


that called strike was horse shit. wasn't even close
RE: RE: Seems teams have figured out  
section125 : 5/25/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13481802 Victor in CT said:
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that called strike was horse shit. wasn't even close


I think replay showed it was a strike...

But that is not the point. Close or not, he can't keep looking at pitches that close. You have to protect the plate. It is obvious the umps are calling that pitch and he changed his approach over the winter to not swing at pitches off the plate, low. It is a fine line. But he should see lots of those pitches in practice, if possible, to see if he can foul them off or punch them to right.
Well, it depends  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 9:16 am : link
If he starts chasing those pitches to the detriment of his overall approach, is it worth it?
RE: Well, it depends  
section125 : 5/25/2017 9:23 am : link
In comment 13481825 Greg from LI said:
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If he starts chasing those pitches to the detriment of his overall approach, is it worth it?


IDK, but does he stand there night after night getting caught looking at something he might be able to fight off? It really isn't occasionally. It seems that is what pitchers the last few series are doing. Every hitter has a hole. His hit last night was away, even if slightly up. Great piece of hitting. Maybe the Yankees are willing to live with that one "small" hole?
He's going to strike out a fair bit  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 9:26 am : link
That's just reality, particularly with the extremely generous strike zone umps have been giving pitchers against him so far. If the trade-off for that is mashing the way he has for the first couple of months, no problem. If it becomes a recurring problem, then he'll adjust. At this point, I don't think he needs to change his approach yet.
May be Williams  
PaulN : 5/25/2017 9:26 am : link
Also, we'll see.
I'm assuming you're saying Mason Williams might be called up?  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 9:31 am : link
Can't see it - he's been terrible in Scranton this year. Refsnyder seems most likely.
They announced  
Homersimpson : 5/25/2017 10:16 am : link
it will be Refsnyder last night.
RE: Judge is getting a rookie strike zone right now  
Elisthebest : 5/25/2017 10:24 am : link
In comment 13481766 Greg from LI said:
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Borderline pitches are almost invariably being called against him.

Thought O'Neill was going to blow a gasket
I agree with Greg from LI. To chase those pitches only helps the  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2017 10:25 am : link
pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.
RE: I agree with Greg from LI. To chase those pitches only helps the  
section125 : 5/25/2017 10:58 am : link
In comment 13481949 Victor in CT said:
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pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.


I don't think he is getting that many bad calls. The replays seem to show most are strikes. Like you I shout at the screen on those, but then they show a replay...Yeah a few are low, but a lot less than we admit to.
Well, either he gets a better feel for what they are calling and adjusts, or the umps adjust. But since it has been multiple umps, I doubt they adjust.

Now swinging at that with less than two strikes is another story, but looking at a 3rd strike over and over is something else and with less than 3 balls in the count, pitchers will try to hit that spot until he does something about it.
I  
mitch300 : 5/25/2017 11:53 am : link
can't believe they cancelled the game. The radar looks like it will be clearing up. K.C. is not scheduled to come back.
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RE: RE: I agree with Greg from LI. To chase those pitches only helps the  
RasputinPrime : 5/25/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13482000 section125 said:
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pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.



I don't think he is getting that many bad calls. The replays seem to show most are strikes. Like you I shout at the screen on those, but then they show a replay...Yeah a few are low, but a lot less than we admit to.
Well, either he gets a better feel for what they are calling and adjusts, or the umps adjust. But since it has been multiple umps, I doubt they adjust.

Now swinging at that with less than two strikes is another story, but looking at a 3rd strike over and over is something else and with less than 3 balls in the count, pitchers will try to hit that spot until he does something about it.


"replay" also doesn't adjust the strike zone to fit the actual body of the hitter. That's the issue here. Judge has a very different strike zone. Is it bigger than most? Yes. Should a pitch at his shins be called a strike because its a strike for 90% of the league? No.
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section125 : 5/25/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13482081 RasputinPrime said:
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pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.



I don't think he is getting that many bad calls. The replays seem to show most are strikes. Like you I shout at the screen on those, but then they show a replay...Yeah a few are low, but a lot less than we admit to.
Well, either he gets a better feel for what they are calling and adjusts, or the umps adjust. But since it has been multiple umps, I doubt they adjust.

Now swinging at that with less than two strikes is another story, but looking at a 3rd strike over and over is something else and with less than 3 balls in the count, pitchers will try to hit that spot until he does something about it.



"replay" also doesn't adjust the strike zone to fit the actual body of the hitter. That's the issue here. Judge has a very different strike zone. Is it bigger than most? Yes. Should a pitch at his shins be called a strike because its a strike for 90% of the league? No.


Replay, not K zone. We can see the plate on the overhead cam and height on the 1st base cam. I wouldn't trust K zone as it seems to be a one size fits all gimmick.
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