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NFT: Royals at Yankees: Rubber match

superspynyg : 5/24/2017 3:46 pm
Hammel (1-5 6.38 era) vs Severino (2-2 3.64 era). 7:05pm start time.
Yanks had a late game collapse yesterday. We need to take this game.

In the rumor mill, I have read a few articles that speculate a possible Garret Cole reunion. Not sure that Pirates will part with Cole right now and I doubt we pony up the prospects to get him.

Garret Cole  
GuzzaBlue : 5/24/2017 3:57 pm : link
would be a great piece, but what would we have to give up?

Castro + some farm pieces? I know there was great debate about this last week whether we should or not. They would probably want Torres (ughhh next) or Frazier (hell no). Anyway they could package Castro with some lesser farm pieces?

BTW not saying they should, just trying to value Pitts asking price.
Stay the course  
River : 5/24/2017 3:59 pm : link
stick with the rebuild.
It's a 4 game series.  
BrianLeonard23 : 5/24/2017 4:03 pm : link
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RE: Stay the course  
mitch300 : 5/24/2017 4:03 pm : link
In comment 13481016 River said:
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stick with the rebuild.

I agree. BTW Orioles lost today.
RE: Garret Cole  
BrianLeonard23 : 5/24/2017 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13481014 GuzzaBlue said:
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would be a great piece, but what would we have to give up?

Castro + some farm pieces? I know there was great debate about this last week whether we should or not. They would probably want Torres (ughhh next) or Frazier (hell no). Anyway they could package Castro with some lesser farm pieces?

BTW not saying they should, just trying to value Pitts asking price.


No way in hell Castro is the centerpiece of any trade
it's not a rubber  
djm : 5/24/2017 4:11 pm : link
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Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 4:15 pm : link
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Luis Severino's 97.1mph avg. fastball velo is the highest among qualified MLB starters this season
Pirates wouldn't be interested in Castro  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 4:18 pm : link
Not with the money still left on his deal, and especially when they know the kind of prospects we have. We'll have to pay up and rightfully so. I'm torn on it
re: Cole  
giants#1 : 5/24/2017 4:18 pm : link
Any deal would likely have to include at least one from: Torres, Frazier, Rutherford.

With Judge-Gardner-Ellsbury-Hicks currently filling the OF and Fowler waiting in the wings, Frazier is probably the most expendable. Future OF (2-3 years from now) of Rutherford-Fowler-Judge.

But Frazier would just be the starting point. Pitt would probably want Mateo + arms.

I'd stay the course and move Gardner and/or Ellsbury in the offseason.
Gerritt Cole can go to hell  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2017 4:20 pm : link
Whoops, he's a Pirate so he's already there. Fuck that guy.
Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
River : 5/24/2017 4:24 pm : link
Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.
RE: Gerritt Cole can go to hell  
Jim in Tampa : 5/24/2017 4:32 pm : link
In comment 13481049 Greg from LI said:
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Whoops, he's a Pirate so he's already there. Fuck that guy.


He was 18. Either he was influenced by his parents or he changed his mind and went to college. I'm not going to hold it against him as if he was a grown man that went out of his way to screw the Yanks.
Nice loss by the O's today already  
Neckbone1333 : 5/24/2017 4:35 pm : link
2.5 up with win tonight and the O's traveling to Houston for a weekend series.
RE: re: Cole  
BrianLeonard23 : 5/24/2017 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13481045 giants#1 said:
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Any deal would likely have to include at least one from: Torres, Frazier, Rutherford.

With Judge-Gardner-Ellsbury-Hicks currently filling the OF and Fowler waiting in the wings, Frazier is probably the most expendable. Future OF (2-3 years from now) of Rutherford-Fowler-Judge.

But Frazier would just be the starting point. Pitt would probably want Mateo + arms.

I'd stay the course and move Gardner and/or Ellsbury in the offseason.


I don't think expendable is the word to describe Clint Frazier. He's close to major league ready and everyone thinks he's a sure thing. I want them to continue trying to get rid of veterans, not add them especially at the expense of top of the farm guys. Obviously Cole is young but nah, I'll pass.
RE: Gerritt Cole can go to hell  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 4:39 pm : link
In comment 13481049 Greg from LI said:
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Whoops, he's a Pirate so he's already there. Fuck that guy.


This is silly at this point, move on. The Yankees surely have. Oppenheimer has maintained a good relationship with the family.
Royals (19-26) @ Yankees (26-17), Hump-Day Ed.  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 4:44 pm : link

1. Alcides Escobar (R) SS .179/.210/.232
2. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B .250/.286/.494
3. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF .266/.361/.367
4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B .301/.361/.422
5. Salvador Perez (R) CA .285/.324/.538
6. Jorge Bonifacio (R) RF .267/.326/.488
7. Brandon Moss (L) DH .192/.261/.442
8. Whit Merrifield (R) 2B .257/.307/.429
9. Alex Gordon (L) LF .175/.294/.212

Jason Hammel (R): (40.2 IP, 6.20 ERA)
vs.
Luis Severino (R): (47 IP, 3.64 ERA)

1. Brett Gardner (L) LF .281/.373/.527
2. Gary Sanchez (R) CA .267/.360/.440
3. Matt Holliday (R) DH .274/.373/.504
4. Starlin Castro (R) 2B .335/.374/.511
5. Aaron Judge (R) RF .315/.419/.685
6. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF .281/.349/.422
7. Chase Headley (S) 3B .237/.310/.382
8. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .319/.350/.426
9. Chris Carter (R) 1B .213/.304/.393
But screw the Yankees is exactly what he did  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2017 4:44 pm : link
He changed his mind in the course of a few days? From "I'm willing to listen to offers" to not even returning phone calls? Had he simply said that his commitment to UCLA was final, they never would have wasted the pick.
RE: RE: Gerritt Cole can go to hell  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2017 4:45 pm : link
In comment 13481068 Kyle in NY said:
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This is silly at this point, move on. The Yankees surely have. Oppenheimer has maintained a good relationship with the family.


Be advised, forgiveness is not what I do best.

There are plenty of other pitchers out there.
RE: Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13481053 River said:
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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.


Torres, Sanchez, Bird, Judge, Frazier, Rutherford.

Don't move any of them. You build a winner with position players in the game now.
anyway, yeah, I'm sure the Yankees won't hold a grudge  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2017 4:50 pm : link
But I do, and I really don't want to see him in pinstripes.
I'll focus on more mundane topics, like getting a good performance  
Victor in CT : 5/24/2017 4:56 pm : link
from Severino tonight.

Looks like tomorrow is going to be a washout, so tomorrow's game will have to be made up sometime later in the season
RE: Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
giants#1 : 5/24/2017 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13481053 River said:
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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.


Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point.
RE: RE: RE: Gerritt Cole can go to hell  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 5:02 pm : link
In comment 13481073 Greg from LI said:
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This is silly at this point, move on. The Yankees surely have. Oppenheimer has maintained a good relationship with the family.



Be advised, forgiveness is not what I do best.

There are plenty of other pitchers out there.


Lol yeah I should know that about you at this point
RE: RE: Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
River : 5/24/2017 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13481089 giants#1 said:
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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.



Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point.


Not a problem in the American League.
RE: RE: RE: Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 5:13 pm : link
In comment 13481092 River said:
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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.



Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point.



Not a problem in the American League.


Bellinger is a solid OFer playing 1B because that is where he is needed and he is athletic enough to do it.

You start with the bat and make it fit. If Frazier and Rutherford track to starter level on this team, we will find room. That will likely start with trading Ellsbury to a team in the Korean league.
The going rate in a trade for a top end cost controlled  
mfsd : 5/24/2017 5:13 pm : link
starting pitcher seems to be 4 prospects, roughly 2 top end and 2 mid level guys. At least based on the Sale trade and the reputed ask for Quintana, who's a notch below Cole

So a Cole trade would probably cost at least 2 of Frazier, Rutherford, Sheffield plus more

Way too much IMO. Stay the course.
RE: The going rate in a trade for a top end cost controlled  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13481102 mfsd said:
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starting pitcher seems to be 4 prospects, roughly 2 top end and 2 mid level guys. At least based on the Sale trade and the reputed ask for Quintana, who's a notch below Cole

So a Cole trade would probably cost at least 2 of Frazier, Rutherford, Sheffield plus more

Way too much IMO. Stay the course.


Agreed. Stay the course. Let the kids decide their own destiny.
Is  
mitch300 : 5/24/2017 5:24 pm : link
Torreyes hurt? With a lefty going yesterday and with Headley in a slump, I'm surprised he didn't get the start at 3rd last night.
I think the writing is on the wall for Headley.  
BrianLeonard23 : 5/24/2017 5:24 pm : link
Gleyber is coming for him by mid season.
RE: I think the writing is on the wall for Headley.  
River : 5/24/2017 5:27 pm : link
In comment 13481110 BrianLeonard23 said:
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Gleyber is coming for him by mid season.


July 4th or after the ASB.
Not sure there's a centerfielder  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2017 5:38 pm : link
in the Frazier-Rutherford-Judge trio, thought it's fun to dream of those three in the same lineup. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but there will be some tough decisions for Cashman to make when the time comes. If Fowler or dare I say Hicks takes hold of the centerfield position, someone will have to be dealt.
Why can't Rutherford stay in Center?  
Tesla : 5/24/2017 5:51 pm : link
I don't think I've read anything which indicates he won't be able to stay in CF long term.
RE: Not sure there's a centerfielder  
section125 : 5/24/2017 5:52 pm : link
In comment 13481128 bceagle05 said:
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in the Frazier-Rutherford-Judge trio, thought it's fun to dream of those three in the same lineup. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but there will be some tough decisions for Cashman to make when the time comes. If Fowler or dare I say Hicks takes hold of the centerfield position, someone will have to be dealt.


Dustin Fowler is the CF of the future.....
RE: RE: RE: RE: Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
BigBlueShock : 5/24/2017 5:55 pm : link
In comment 13481101 RasputinPrime said:
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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.



Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point.



Not a problem in the American League.



Bellinger is a solid OFer playing 1B because that is where he is needed and he is athletic enough to do it.

You start with the bat and make it fit. If Frazier and Rutherford track to starter level on this team, we will find room. That will likely start with trading Ellsbury to a team in the Korean league.

Bellinger is actually a 1st baseman that is athletic enough to play the OF. 1st base is his future when AGone is gone
Fowler  
Phil in LA : 5/24/2017 5:58 pm : link
Will end up in a trade cause he doesn't walk.
I wonder  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 6:25 pm : link
what Fowler + a hopefully revitalized Mateo could fetch?
RE: RE: Frazier was the Indians Jewel  
Jay in Toronto : 5/24/2017 6:38 pm : link
In comment 13481075 RasputinPrime said:
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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.



Torres, Sanchez, Bird, Judge, Frazier, Rutherford.

Don't move any of them. You build a winner with position players in the game now.


I predict there will be a prospect position player who will shine and is not among those 6
What about Mateo at CF?  
adamg : 5/24/2017 6:44 pm : link
Is he really struggling at this point?
I think all the Giants rookies  
B in ALB : 5/24/2017 6:49 pm : link
are at the game tonight.
No to Cole  
Stu11 : 5/24/2017 6:49 pm : link
I'm not adverse to adding help because I think this team is good enough to contend for the playoffs so why not try. However Cole strikes me as a guy who's number would balloon in the AL East. I'm not for giving up our top prospects for 1 pitcher, that won't be the difference. I'd trade Mateo types for a 3rd starter type. Stay the course and go the Cubs route- add pitchers along the way through free agency and shrewd deals.
Fowler and Frazier each hit their 8th HR tonight  
Dunedin81 : 5/24/2017 6:52 pm : link
Fowler is likely to be a top 100 prospect at season's end. Could stand to be more patient but he is the total package.
Frazier homered last night too  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 7:02 pm : link
Planning on going to watch them tomorrow night here in Columbus
Geez Sevy  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 7:13 pm : link
nearly got Ellsbury knocked out on the first pitch of the game. Great catch
RE: Geez Sevy  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13481230 Kyle in NY said:
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nearly got Ellsbury knocked out on the first pitch of the game. Great catch


Ellsbury out of the game
Also no to Gerrit Cole  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 7:40 pm : link
Yankee Stadium and the AL East are the absolute worst landing spots for a pitcher like him
Didi another HR  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 7:48 pm : link
1-0 Yanks. He's become a far better hitter than anyone thought when we got him (except for Cashman)
The crowd is uproarious  
adamg : 5/24/2017 7:49 pm : link
yes in Didi
RE: Didi another HR  
River : 5/24/2017 7:50 pm : link
In comment 13481274 dpinzow said:
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1-0 Yanks. He's become a far better hitter than anyone thought when we got him (except for Cashman)


Didi is part of the this teams future dynasty.
Holy Christ John and Suzyn  
B in ALB : 5/24/2017 8:15 pm : link
are Fucking dogshit. Absolutely horrific.
RE: Holy Christ John and Suzyn  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 8:16 pm : link
In comment 13481294 B in ALB said:
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are Fucking dogshit. Absolutely horrific.


This is news? Have you never burned your ears before today?
I love DIDI.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 8:17 pm : link
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RE: RE: Holy Christ John and Suzyn  
B in ALB : 5/24/2017 8:18 pm : link
In comment 13481297 RasputinPrime said:
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are Fucking dogshit. Absolutely horrific.



This is news? Have you never burned your ears before today?


It's every Fucking time. Embarrassment.
Ellsbury  
B in ALB : 5/24/2017 8:21 pm : link
Concussion and neck sprain.

7 day dl at least.
RE: Ellsbury  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 8:23 pm : link
In comment 13481307 B in ALB said:
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Concussion and neck sprain.

7 day dl at least.


Damn. Austin isn't ready and Williams hasn't been hitting.
Fowler, Frazier and Wade  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 8:25 pm : link
all with HRs in Scranton
Wow Frazier, Wade and Fowler  
bceagle05 : 5/24/2017 8:25 pm : link
all go deep in Scranton.
RE: Fowler, Frazier and Wade  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13481314 dpinzow said:
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all with HRs in Scranton


Very exciting. Can't wait for some of these guys (along with Gleyber) to be called up. The future is as bright as it's looked in along time.
Which one comes up to replace Ellsbury?  
mavric : 5/24/2017 8:27 pm : link
My bet is that Dustin Fowler gets the call up. He's been on fire for the last couple of weeks. On the other hand, Wade is starting to heat up.

My bet: Fowler will be called up
There is a vacant spot on  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 8:27 pm : link
the 40-man.
RE: Which one comes up to replace Ellsbury?  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 8:29 pm : link
In comment 13481319 mavric said:
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My bet is that Dustin Fowler gets the call up. He's been on fire for the last couple of weeks. On the other hand, Wade is starting to heat up.

My bet: Fowler will be called up


He would have to be put on the 40-man, not sure the Yanks want to do that. But it would be fun to see.
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Bill2 : 5/24/2017 8:32 pm : link
stupid question: Is Wade on the 40 Man?
Ellsbury hurt?  
Vin R : 5/24/2017 8:36 pm : link
Shocker
RE: .  
mavric : 5/24/2017 8:36 pm : link
In comment 13481326 Bill2 said:
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stupid question: Is Wade on the 40 Man?


Wade is in Scranton/WB (AAA)
2 hits off this  
section125 : 5/24/2017 8:38 pm : link
tomato can?

Geez
why can't we mash this bum  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 8:38 pm : link
frustrating not getting to Hammel.
RE: RE: Which one comes up to replace Ellsbury?  
mavric : 5/24/2017 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13481323 Del Shofner said:
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My bet is that Dustin Fowler gets the call up. He's been on fire for the last couple of weeks. On the other hand, Wade is starting to heat up.

My bet: Fowler will be called up



He would have to be put on the 40-man, not sure the Yanks want to do that. But it would be fun to see.


In almost any other system, Fowler would already be in the majors. He's better than half the OF's in MLB already (IMHO)

The Yanks have to do something. They need at least 4 outfielders and they don't really want to have to play Holliday out there even though he can still play some.
Neither Wade nor Fowler  
section125 : 5/24/2017 8:40 pm : link
on the 40 man.

Bet Refsnyder is recalled.
RE: Neither Wade nor Fowler  
River : 5/24/2017 8:43 pm : link
In comment 13481345 section125 said:
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on the 40 man.

Bet Refsnyder is recalled.

don't forget Torreyez can play OF too.
Would rather it not be Refsnyder, tbh.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 8:44 pm : link
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section125 : 5/24/2017 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13481332 mavric said:
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stupid question: Is Wade on the 40 Man?



Wade is in Scranton/WB (AAA)


mavric you can e on the 40 man and not in the Bronx. Mateo is on it and in Trenton
Sanchez singles, steals, advances to third on the error  
adamg : 5/24/2017 8:54 pm : link
and scores on the sac fly.

Nice playing Gary.
RE: .  
Kyle in NY : 5/24/2017 8:58 pm : link
In comment 13481326 Bill2 said:
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stupid question: Is Wade on the 40 Man?


Wade is not. And it's probably the main reason he wasn't with the ML club when Didi got hurt and they kept a guy like Kozma.

If it's just a 7 day thing with Ellsbury then I doubt they're calling up one of the top guys, as much as we'd like that. In that case I figure it'll be Ref
Heads up baseball by GARY.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 8:58 pm : link
Nice.
Headley  
B in ALB : 5/24/2017 9:00 pm : link
Holy shit. That was pathetic.
Big opportunity to get up 4 on a team  
micky : 5/24/2017 9:01 pm : link
That has hard time coming back from large deficits..headley poor job..royals still in this one
Headley is just totally  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:01 pm : link
lost at the plate. I'd rather see Torreyes in at 3rd..
Another stinking  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:05 pm : link
lead off walk. Sad.
Severino flashing leather  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:05 pm : link
like nobody's business.

WOW
RE: Another stinking  
micky : 5/24/2017 9:06 pm : link
In comment 13481377 section125 said:
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lead off walk. Sad.


Didn't hurt them this time
Sevy!  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 9:07 pm : link
Love this kid.
Clipard Betance  
River : 5/24/2017 9:07 pm : link
here or do you let Sevey stay out there?
RE: RE: Another stinking  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:08 pm : link
In comment 13481381 micky said:
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lead off walk. Sad.



Didn't hurt them this time


Nope. Don't want those asses to think they can get ack in it.
Maybe he gets the 8th also.
RE: Clipard Betance  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13481383 River said:
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here or do you let Sevey stay out there?


Give him 1 more batter
Didi  
River : 5/24/2017 9:12 pm : link
is starting to Rake!
Love the Didi.  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 9:12 pm : link
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RE: RE: Clipard Betance  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13481386 adamg said:
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here or do you let Sevey stay out there?



Give him 1 more batter


Just let him pitch.
Gardner RBI single  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 9:20 pm : link
3-0 Yanks
Got a big break on a k not called  
micky : 5/24/2017 9:20 pm : link
And gets run in on next pitch..lucky
Strahm got  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:22 pm : link
umped. We'll take it...as Gardy comes through.
Awesome strike out  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
got umped and recovered.

One more. Let's go.
100 mph fastball on his 112th pitch  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
Severino is incredible
Yanks pitchers have gotten jobbed by the umps  
mfsd : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
a few times the last couple weeks - bout time we got one back
100 mph fastball on the outside corner  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:37 pm : link
phew... this guy is a revelation this year. Really showed up so far.

8 shutout. Great game. Huge uplift for the team.
2nd best outing of the year  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:40 pm : link
by a Yankees pitcher. Only Tanaka's CG against Sale was better.
Betances looks good  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:47 pm : link
good location on that break ball for the first pitch.
Severino has such great potential. What a commanding start.  
yatqb : 5/24/2017 9:49 pm : link
And the Royals sure helped. After letting the leadoff man get on a few times late, the next batter swung at the first pitch each time, lofting lazy fly ball outs.
Betances just showed how scary our bullen can be  
adamg : 5/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
And he's just one piece of it
Betances unhittable in the 9th  
dpinzow : 5/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
strikes out the side. Yanks now 2.5 ahead in the East
Dellin dealin'  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 9:51 pm : link
Good win!
Betances is pitching angry  
RasputinPrime : 5/24/2017 9:52 pm : link
Levine you mad genius!

Great pitching tonight.
Ballgame!  
mfsd : 5/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
When Dellin has command of both fastball and curve, he's unhittable. Great bounce back win. Let's take the series tomorrow afternoon!
Nasty.  
section125 : 5/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
16-18 mph difference between FB and slider/breaking ball. Makes good MLB hitters look foolish.
This is the Severino  
dune69 : 5/24/2017 9:54 pm : link
that could be a #1 or #2 some day. Great job!!
I didn't have the sound on  
mattnyg05 : 5/24/2017 9:55 pm : link
So I don't know if they mentioned it on air but Lorenzo Cain literally mouthed "I can't hit that guy" after betances whiffed him there. Pretty funny, can't remember seeing that before
Severino could turn out to be a legit ace  
Greg from LI : 5/24/2017 9:56 pm : link
His stuff is just overpowering. If his command is sharp, he's damned near unhittable.
Didi is not only playing well-  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:02 pm : link
He seems to be a positive presence with a sense of humor. I'm not a big emoji guy myself, but Didi is making a fun thing out of it...
RE: Severino could turn out to be a legit ace  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:06 pm : link
In comment 13481460 Greg from LI said:
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His stuff is just overpowering. If his command is sharp, he's damned near unhittable.


Yeah- the talking heads were saying this is why you stick with him as a starter and don't move him to the pen.

I'll confess I have probably been on both sides of that debate...
Grow the Kids this year.  
River : 5/24/2017 10:15 pm : link
Severino,Montgomery,Adams,

Should give Green and Cessa a shot too.

Michell is a lost cause as a starter.

A week until May ends and the Yankees are in 1st place. Nice!
Sevy's on the way  
Phil in LA : 5/24/2017 10:16 pm : link
To being an ace. A couple hiccups where he got squeezed, but way more good than bad these days.
I wouldn't give up on Mitchell as yet, since he was out all  
yatqb : 5/24/2017 10:18 pm : link
last year. But he has an uphill climb as a starter. Could wind up as a swing man, like Warren was at one time.

I am hoping that Adams forces his way into the rotation by next spring...taking over for CC.
RE: Sevy's on the way  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:25 pm : link
In comment 13481510 Phil in LA said:
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To being an ace. A couple hiccups where he got squeezed, but way more good than bad these days.


Cain of KC re Sevy: I don't know where they found that guy but he's pretty darn good.
Sounds like it is Ref who is coming back up  
Del Shofner : 5/24/2017 10:26 pm : link
per YES.
The Yankees could have a truly incredible  
chopperhatch : 5/24/2017 10:40 pm : link
Infield situation if Bird can get back on track at the very least when he gets back and if Gleyber is the real deal. Could have a potential all star at every position.
Big win  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/24/2017 11:31 pm : link
and always great to see Sevy throw another gem.
Yankees minor league notes - "The Domingos"  
GiantJake : 5/25/2017 1:27 am : link
RHP Domingo German threw 7 shutout innings, 3 hits, 10 K in his 2nd start since being called up to AAA. He pitched in the Futures Game in 2014 before the Yanks acquired him from the Marlins. He had TJ surgery two years ago and the Yanks have been patient and hopefully their patience will pay off. The Yanks like him as a starter, but he could also eventually help the big club in the bullpen if necessary.

RHP Domingo Acevedo threw 7.1 shutout innings, 3 hits, 9Ks. He is 2-0 since being promoted to AA Trenton and has a 0.00 ERA. Acevedo is 6'7" and throws hard. He's another guy that could project as a dominant reliever if he doesn't continue to find success as a starter.

That's 14 2/3 straight innings of first-rate pitching...  
manh george : 5/25/2017 1:33 am : link
from the starters. Yeah, KC's offense sucks, but Montgomery was ample before Severino was amazing. He still needs to build a little more stamina and he will be a solid #3-4 type starter. His BA against this year is an impressive .228. He has given up most of his runs late in his starts, so that should improve as he strengthens.
yay Seve! And thank you Joe G for leaving him in for the 8th  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2017 7:59 am : link
nice piece of hitting by Sanchez and Judge on their singles. Sanchez manufactures a run. Didi is just sizzling. It's what I love about this team. They can bash you, but they can scrape up runs with baserunning and athleticism
Seems teams have figured out  
section125 : 5/25/2017 8:33 am : link
for now to throw lots of breaking balls to the Yanks in any ount. The offspeed stuff is giving them fits and running up the Ks.

Hitting coaches need to work on Judge and the low outside pitch. He takes an awful lot of those for called 3rd strikes. We know he is doing better because he is laying of those regularly, but with two strikes he has to start punching them to right. Better than just looking at them. Might have to do with learning the strike zone down there, but the umps are consistently calling that pitch. He is a special player and hate to see him go down looking.
Judge is getting a rookie strike zone right now  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 8:55 am : link
Borderline pitches are almost invariably being called against him.
Looks like the OP was right, it was the rubber match  
YAJ2112 : 5/25/2017 9:03 am : link
today's game has already been postponed
RE: Seems teams have figured out  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2017 9:06 am : link
In comment 13481728 section125 said:
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for now to throw lots of breaking balls to the Yanks in any ount. The offspeed stuff is giving them fits and running up the Ks.

Hitting coaches need to work on Judge and the low outside pitch. He takes an awful lot of those for called 3rd strikes. We know he is doing better because he is laying of those regularly, but with two strikes he has to start punching them to right. Better than just looking at them. Might have to do with learning the strike zone down there, but the umps are consistently calling that pitch. He is a special player and hate to see him go down looking.


that called strike was horse shit. wasn't even close
RE: RE: Seems teams have figured out  
section125 : 5/25/2017 9:14 am : link
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that called strike was horse shit. wasn't even close


I think replay showed it was a strike...

But that is not the point. Close or not, he can't keep looking at pitches that close. You have to protect the plate. It is obvious the umps are calling that pitch and he changed his approach over the winter to not swing at pitches off the plate, low. It is a fine line. But he should see lots of those pitches in practice, if possible, to see if he can foul them off or punch them to right.
Well, it depends  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 9:16 am : link
If he starts chasing those pitches to the detriment of his overall approach, is it worth it?
RE: Well, it depends  
section125 : 5/25/2017 9:23 am : link
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If he starts chasing those pitches to the detriment of his overall approach, is it worth it?


IDK, but does he stand there night after night getting caught looking at something he might be able to fight off? It really isn't occasionally. It seems that is what pitchers the last few series are doing. Every hitter has a hole. His hit last night was away, even if slightly up. Great piece of hitting. Maybe the Yankees are willing to live with that one "small" hole?
He's going to strike out a fair bit  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 9:26 am : link
That's just reality, particularly with the extremely generous strike zone umps have been giving pitchers against him so far. If the trade-off for that is mashing the way he has for the first couple of months, no problem. If it becomes a recurring problem, then he'll adjust. At this point, I don't think he needs to change his approach yet.
May be Williams  
PaulN : 5/25/2017 9:26 am : link
Also, we'll see.
I'm assuming you're saying Mason Williams might be called up?  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 9:31 am : link
Can't see it - he's been terrible in Scranton this year. Refsnyder seems most likely.
They announced  
Homersimpson : 5/25/2017 10:16 am : link
it will be Refsnyder last night.
RE: Judge is getting a rookie strike zone right now  
Elisthebest : 5/25/2017 10:24 am : link
In comment 13481766 Greg from LI said:
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Borderline pitches are almost invariably being called against him.

Thought O'Neill was going to blow a gasket
I agree with Greg from LI. To chase those pitches only helps the  
Victor in CT : 5/25/2017 10:25 am : link
pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.
RE: I agree with Greg from LI. To chase those pitches only helps the  
section125 : 5/25/2017 10:58 am : link
In comment 13481949 Victor in CT said:
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pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.


I don't think he is getting that many bad calls. The replays seem to show most are strikes. Like you I shout at the screen on those, but then they show a replay...Yeah a few are low, but a lot less than we admit to.
Well, either he gets a better feel for what they are calling and adjusts, or the umps adjust. But since it has been multiple umps, I doubt they adjust.

Now swinging at that with less than two strikes is another story, but looking at a 3rd strike over and over is something else and with less than 3 balls in the count, pitchers will try to hit that spot until he does something about it.
I  
mitch300 : 5/25/2017 11:53 am : link
can't believe they cancelled the game. The radar looks like it will be clearing up. K.C. is not scheduled to come back.
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RE: RE: I agree with Greg from LI. To chase those pitches only helps the  
RasputinPrime : 5/25/2017 11:54 am : link
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pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.



I don't think he is getting that many bad calls. The replays seem to show most are strikes. Like you I shout at the screen on those, but then they show a replay...Yeah a few are low, but a lot less than we admit to.
Well, either he gets a better feel for what they are calling and adjusts, or the umps adjust. But since it has been multiple umps, I doubt they adjust.

Now swinging at that with less than two strikes is another story, but looking at a 3rd strike over and over is something else and with less than 3 balls in the count, pitchers will try to hit that spot until he does something about it.


"replay" also doesn't adjust the strike zone to fit the actual body of the hitter. That's the issue here. Judge has a very different strike zone. Is it bigger than most? Yes. Should a pitch at his shins be called a strike because its a strike for 90% of the league? No.
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section125 : 5/25/2017 12:00 pm : link
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pitcher. Judge is doing fine. He's maturing as a hitter. As he gains stature and establishes that he won't widen the strike zone, those calls will start to go his way. Telling him to chase them would be the aboslute wrong thing to do.



I don't think he is getting that many bad calls. The replays seem to show most are strikes. Like you I shout at the screen on those, but then they show a replay...Yeah a few are low, but a lot less than we admit to.
Well, either he gets a better feel for what they are calling and adjusts, or the umps adjust. But since it has been multiple umps, I doubt they adjust.

Now swinging at that with less than two strikes is another story, but looking at a 3rd strike over and over is something else and with less than 3 balls in the count, pitchers will try to hit that spot until he does something about it.



"replay" also doesn't adjust the strike zone to fit the actual body of the hitter. That's the issue here. Judge has a very different strike zone. Is it bigger than most? Yes. Should a pitch at his shins be called a strike because its a strike for 90% of the league? No.


Replay, not K zone. We can see the plate on the overhead cam and height on the 1st base cam. I wouldn't trust K zone as it seems to be a one size fits all gimmick.
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