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would be a great piece, but what would we have to give up?

Castro + some farm pieces? I know there was great debate about this last week whether we should or not. They would probably want Torres (ughhh next) or Frazier (hell no). Anyway they could package Castro with some lesser farm pieces?

BTW not saying they should, just trying to value Pitts asking price.

stick with the rebuild.

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In comment 13481016 River said:

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stick with the rebuild.

I agree. BTW Orioles lost today.

In comment 13481014 GuzzaBlue said:

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would be a great piece, but what would we have to give up? Castro + some farm pieces? I know there was great debate about this last week whether we should or not. They would probably want Torres (ughhh next) or Frazier (hell no). Anyway they could package Castro with some lesser farm pieces? BTW not saying they should, just trying to value Pitts asking price.

No way in hell Castro is the centerpiece of any trade

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Luis Severino's 97.1mph avg. fastball velo is the highest among qualified MLB starters this season

Not with the money still left on his deal, and especially when they know the kind of prospects we have. We'll have to pay up and rightfully so. I'm torn on it

Any deal would likely have to include at least one from: Torres, Frazier, Rutherford.

With Judge-Gardner-Ellsbury-Hicks currently filling the OF and Fowler waiting in the wings, Frazier is probably the most expendable. Future OF (2-3 years from now) of Rutherford-Fowler-Judge.

But Frazier would just be the starting point. Pitt would probably want Mateo + arms.

I'd stay the course and move Gardner and/or Ellsbury in the offseason.

Whoops, he's a Pirate so he's already there. Fuck that guy.

Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.

In comment 13481049 Greg from LI said:

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Whoops, he's a Pirate so he's already there. Fuck that guy.

He was 18. Either he was influenced by his parents or he changed his mind and went to college. I'm not going to hold it against him as if he was a grown man that went out of his way to screw the Yanks.

2.5 up with win tonight and the O's traveling to Houston for a weekend series.

In comment 13481045 giants#1 said:

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Any deal would likely have to include at least one from: Torres, Frazier, Rutherford. With Judge-Gardner-Ellsbury-Hicks currently filling the OF and Fowler waiting in the wings, Frazier is probably the most expendable. Future OF (2-3 years from now) of Rutherford-Fowler-Judge. But Frazier would just be the starting point. Pitt would probably want Mateo + arms. I'd stay the course and move Gardner and/or Ellsbury in the offseason.

I don't think expendable is the word to describe Clint Frazier. He's close to major league ready and everyone thinks he's a sure thing. I want them to continue trying to get rid of veterans, not add them especially at the expense of top of the farm guys. Obviously Cole is young but nah, I'll pass.

In comment 13481049 Greg from LI said:

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Whoops, he's a Pirate so he's already there. Fuck that guy.

This is silly at this point, move on. The Yankees surely have. Oppenheimer has maintained a good relationship with the family.

1. Alcides Escobar (R) SS .179/.210/.232
2. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B .250/.286/.494
3. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF .266/.361/.367
4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B .301/.361/.422
5. Salvador Perez (R) CA .285/.324/.538
6. Jorge Bonifacio (R) RF .267/.326/.488
7. Brandon Moss (L) DH .192/.261/.442
8. Whit Merrifield (R) 2B .257/.307/.429
9. Alex Gordon (L) LF .175/.294/.212

Jason Hammel (R): (40.2 IP, 6.20 ERA)
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Luis Severino (R): (47 IP, 3.64 ERA)

1. Brett Gardner (L) LF .281/.373/.527
2. Gary Sanchez (R) CA .267/.360/.440
3. Matt Holliday (R) DH .274/.373/.504
4. Starlin Castro (R) 2B .335/.374/.511
5. Aaron Judge (R) RF .315/.419/.685
6. Jacoby Ellsbury (L) CF .281/.349/.422
7. Chase Headley (S) 3B .237/.310/.382
8. Didi Gregorius (L) SS .319/.350/.426
9. Chris Carter (R) 1B .213/.304/.393

He changed his mind in the course of a few days? From "I'm willing to listen to offers" to not even returning phone calls? Had he simply said that his commitment to UCLA was final, they never would have wasted the pick.

In comment 13481068 Kyle in NY said:

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This is silly at this point, move on. The Yankees surely have. Oppenheimer has maintained a good relationship with the family.

Be advised, forgiveness is not what I do best.

There are plenty of other pitchers out there.

In comment 13481053 River said:

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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.

Torres, Sanchez, Bird, Judge, Frazier, Rutherford.

Don't move any of them. You build a winner with position players in the game now.

But I do, and I really don't want to see him in pinstripes.

from Severino tonight.

Looks like tomorrow is going to be a washout, so tomorrow's game will have to be made up sometime later in the season

In comment 13481053 River said:

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Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core.

Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point.

In comment 13481073 Greg from LI said:

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In comment 13481068 Kyle in NY said: Quote: This is silly at this point, move on. The Yankees surely have. Oppenheimer has maintained a good relationship with the family. Be advised, forgiveness is not what I do best. There are plenty of other pitchers out there.

Lol yeah I should know that about you at this point

In comment 13481089 giants#1 said:

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In comment 13481053 River said: Quote: Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core. Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point.

Not a problem in the American League.

In comment 13481092 River said:

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In comment 13481089 giants#1 said: Quote: In comment 13481053 River said: Quote: Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core. Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point. Not a problem in the American League.

Bellinger is a solid OFer playing 1B because that is where he is needed and he is athletic enough to do it.

You start with the bat and make it fit. If Frazier and Rutherford track to starter level on this team, we will find room. That will likely start with trading Ellsbury to a team in the Korean league.

starting pitcher seems to be 4 prospects, roughly 2 top end and 2 mid level guys. At least based on the Sale trade and the reputed ask for Quintana, who's a notch below Cole

So a Cole trade would probably cost at least 2 of Frazier, Rutherford, Sheffield plus more

Way too much IMO. Stay the course.

In comment 13481102 mfsd said:

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starting pitcher seems to be 4 prospects, roughly 2 top end and 2 mid level guys. At least based on the Sale trade and the reputed ask for Quintana, who's a notch below Cole So a Cole trade would probably cost at least 2 of Frazier, Rutherford, Sheffield plus more Way too much IMO. Stay the course.

Agreed. Stay the course. Let the kids decide their own destiny.

Torreyes hurt? With a lefty going yesterday and with Headley in a slump, I'm surprised he didn't get the start at 3rd last night.

Gleyber is coming for him by mid season.

In comment 13481110 BrianLeonard23 said:

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Gleyber is coming for him by mid season.

July 4th or after the ASB.

in the Frazier-Rutherford-Judge trio, thought it's fun to dream of those three in the same lineup. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but there will be some tough decisions for Cashman to make when the time comes. If Fowler or dare I say Hicks takes hold of the centerfield position, someone will have to be dealt.

I don't think I've read anything which indicates he won't be able to stay in CF long term.

In comment 13481128 bceagle05 said:

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in the Frazier-Rutherford-Judge trio, thought it's fun to dream of those three in the same lineup. We're getting ahead of ourselves, but there will be some tough decisions for Cashman to make when the time comes. If Fowler or dare I say Hicks takes hold of the centerfield position, someone will have to be dealt.

Dustin Fowler is the CF of the future.....

In comment 13481101 RasputinPrime said:

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In comment 13481092 River said: Quote: In comment 13481089 giants#1 said: Quote: In comment 13481053 River said: Quote: Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core. Only problem (a good one to have) is that Rutherford and Frazier both project to corner OF (and Judge already has RF locked up). So one of them will likely be moved for a P at some point. Not a problem in the American League. Bellinger is a solid OFer playing 1B because that is where he is needed and he is athletic enough to do it. You start with the bat and make it fit. If Frazier and Rutherford track to starter level on this team, we will find room. That will likely start with trading Ellsbury to a team in the Korean league.

Bellinger is actually a 1st baseman that is athletic enough to play the OF. 1st base is his future when AGone is gone

Will end up in a trade cause he doesn't walk.

what Fowler + a hopefully revitalized Mateo could fetch?

In comment 13481075 RasputinPrime said:

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In comment 13481053 River said: Quote: Cashman is proud of that trade and the report is that he will have legendary bat speed. Exit velo comparable to Sanchez and Judge. You don't trade that. Pitchers will be shitting themselves facing that future line up. Gleyber,Sanchez,Judge,Frazier is the new core. Torres, Sanchez, Bird, Judge, Frazier, Rutherford. Don't move any of them. You build a winner with position players in the game now.

I predict there will be a prospect position player who will shine and is not among those 6

Is he really struggling at this point?

are at the game tonight.

I'm not adverse to adding help because I think this team is good enough to contend for the playoffs so why not try. However Cole strikes me as a guy who's number would balloon in the AL East. I'm not for giving up our top prospects for 1 pitcher, that won't be the difference. I'd trade Mateo types for a 3rd starter type. Stay the course and go the Cubs route- add pitchers along the way through free agency and shrewd deals.

Fowler is likely to be a top 100 prospect at season's end. Could stand to be more patient but he is the total package.

Planning on going to watch them tomorrow night here in Columbus

nearly got Ellsbury knocked out on the first pitch of the game. Great catch

In comment 13481230 Kyle in NY said:

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nearly got Ellsbury knocked out on the first pitch of the game. Great catch

Ellsbury out of the game

Yankee Stadium and the AL East are the absolute worst landing spots for a pitcher like him

1-0 Yanks. He's become a far better hitter than anyone thought when we got him (except for Cashman)

yes in Didi

In comment 13481274 dpinzow said:

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1-0 Yanks. He's become a far better hitter than anyone thought when we got him (except for Cashman)

Didi is part of the this teams future dynasty.

are Fucking dogshit. Absolutely horrific.

In comment 13481294 B in ALB said:

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are Fucking dogshit. Absolutely horrific.

This is news? Have you never burned your ears before today?