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NFT: Mets vs Pads game 2

spike : 5/24/2017 7:55 pm
Milone to the DL with a sprained knee. Montero or Smoker might potentially start in his place. Gross.

Conforto
Reyes
Walker
Duda
Flores
Grandy
Rene Rivera
Lagares
Gsellman



0-0 in the 2nd inning so far


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It's one way to get Milone out of the rotation  
spike : 5/24/2017 7:57 pm : link
BTW TDA is BACK!
When will Tyler Pill  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:04 pm : link
get on the 40 man roster?
WILMAH!  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:16 pm : link
3 run double!

He is now a full time player who can hit against the righties and lefties!
Wilmah comes  
Stufftherun : 5/24/2017 8:17 pm : link
through in the clutch!
My boy Wilmer doing his business  
PhiPsi125 : 5/24/2017 8:18 pm : link
Against righties. Who woulda thunk?
Cosart has been hurt since that seed off his ankle  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/24/2017 8:18 pm : link
He's gutty but we need to pound him here
Grandy with  
Stufftherun : 5/24/2017 8:19 pm : link
a big two out RBI.
4-1 good guys  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:21 pm : link
WTG Grandy!
Part of me really wants to see Flores  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:21 pm : link
Get one final shot at 3B. Part of me wants TJ Rivera to get some consistent atbats there and heat up like we know he can. Part of me thinks Reyes is better than Cabrera at SS. Part of me wants to see Rosario at SS. What to do what to do.... 5 candidates for 2 spots.
All these early injuries to the positional players have been a boon  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:22 pm : link
for these young guys, Conforto, TJ and Wilmer (and even Rene). They have demonstrated that they belong here and deserve more playing time
Granderson has even heated up a little...  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:25 pm : link
Which is nice timing with Bruce out. Grandy will be riding pine soon enough though with Ces on the horizon.
RE: Part of me really wants to see Flores  
PhiPsi125 : 5/24/2017 8:30 pm : link
In comment 13481308 ZGiants98 said:
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Get one final shot at 3B. Part of me wants TJ Rivera to get some consistent atbats there and heat up like we know he can. Part of me thinks Reyes is better than Cabrera at SS. Part of me wants to see Rosario at SS. What to do what to do.... 5 candidates for 2 spots.


Cabrera should be the odd man out, and it couldn't be more obvious and easy of a decision. Which means that when he returns from injury he will go right back to starting.

Reyes is better at SS than Cabrera and looks like he might be getting back on track with the hitting. But Reyes is still going to be worse offensively than TJ and Wilmer. It hurts to have Reyes and Cabrera in the lineup at the same time. Duda too. Too many dead spots.

Rivera and Wilmer are exactly what this team needs and it's no coincidence that the offense has been clicking with both getting consistent playing time. It's nice not having to rely on the HR for wins.
RE: RE: Part of me really wants to see Flores  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:32 pm : link
In comment 13481324 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 13481308 ZGiants98 said:


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Get one final shot at 3B. Part of me wants TJ Rivera to get some consistent atbats there and heat up like we know he can. Part of me thinks Reyes is better than Cabrera at SS. Part of me wants to see Rosario at SS. What to do what to do.... 5 candidates for 2 spots.



Cabrera should be the odd man out, and it couldn't be more obvious and easy of a decision. Which means that when he returns from injury he will go right back to starting.

Reyes is better at SS than Cabrera and looks like he might be getting back on track with the hitting. But Reyes is still going to be worse offensively than TJ and Wilmer. It hurts to have Reyes and Cabrera in the lineup at the same time. Duda too. Too many dead spots.

Rivera and Wilmer are exactly what this team needs and it's no coincidence that the offense has been clicking with both getting consistent playing time. It's nice not having to rely on the HR for wins.


Agree 100%. What's worse is Cabrera really looks like a liability at SS this year too. But you are right... I can almost promise Cabrera is getting his starting spot over everyone when he comes back in a day or two. lol.
Is there a team who is any worse at pitchers bunting than the Mets?  
PhiPsi125 : 5/24/2017 8:35 pm : link
Jesus H Christ. Just let them swing away. They are AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL at bunting.
RE: RE: RE: Part of me really wants to see Flores  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/24/2017 8:35 pm : link
In comment 13481327 ZGiants98 said:
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In comment 13481308 ZGiants98 said:


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Get one final shot at 3B. Part of me wants TJ Rivera to get some consistent atbats there and heat up like we know he can. Part of me thinks Reyes is better than Cabrera at SS. Part of me wants to see Rosario at SS. What to do what to do.... 5 candidates for 2 spots.



Cabrera should be the odd man out, and it couldn't be more obvious and easy of a decision. Which means that when he returns from injury he will go right back to starting.

Reyes is better at SS than Cabrera and looks like he might be getting back on track with the hitting. But Reyes is still going to be worse offensively than TJ and Wilmer. It hurts to have Reyes and Cabrera in the lineup at the same time. Duda too. Too many dead spots.

Rivera and Wilmer are exactly what this team needs and it's no coincidence that the offense has been clicking with both getting consistent playing time. It's nice not having to rely on the HR for wins.



Agree 100%. What's worse is Cabrera really looks like a liability at SS this year too. But you are right... I can almost promise Cabrera is getting his starting spot over everyone when he comes back in a day or two. lol.


Agreed Cabrera is going to start and he shouldn't.
Well, you can't hurt the fragile egos of your ancient veterans  
PhiPsi125 : 5/24/2017 8:37 pm : link
They might cry and then it would just be awkward.
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arcarsenal : 5/24/2017 8:37 pm : link
Kid Conforto.. BEAST.
Conforto ...  
Stufftherun : 5/24/2017 8:37 pm : link
nuff said.
RE: Well, you can't hurt the fragile egos of your ancient veterans  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13481334 PhiPsi125 said:
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They might cry and then it would just be awkward.


lmao.
Ah... So I guess Conforto could be part  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:40 pm : link
of the new "run off" vote after everyone is selected without being written in. Still shitty IMO.
TC is gonna TC  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:41 pm : link
play the dying vets and burn the bullpen arms
How about TJ at third, Reyes at SS (until Rosario emerges) and  
PhiPsi125 : 5/24/2017 8:41 pm : link
Wilmer at 2nd? It won't be the best defensive IF but not really any worse than what we have now (which isn't awful anyway). At least that IF would hit.
RE: Ah... So I guess Conforto could be part  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13481344 ZGiants98 said:
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of the new "run off" vote after everyone is selected without being written in. Still shitty IMO.


He will go in as the 25th man or an injury replacement.
RE: How about TJ at third, Reyes at SS (until Rosario emerges) and  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:46 pm : link
In comment 13481347 PhiPsi125 said:
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Wilmer at 2nd? It won't be the best defensive IF but not really any worse than what we have now (which isn't awful anyway). At least that IF would hit.


Yeah if it were me I'd probably do something similar. I'd have TJ at 3B by a hair over Flores (I think he's slightly better defensively). I'd have Reyes at SS over Cabrera until after Super 2 in which I'd probably go to Rosario. 2B is tough because Walker is actually having a pretty hot May. Hmmm.
RE: RE: Ah... So I guess Conforto could be part  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 8:47 pm : link
In comment 13481348 spike said:
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of the new "run off" vote after everyone is selected without being written in. Still shitty IMO.



He will go in as the 25th man or an injury replacement.


Yeah... Probably. It's still lame. If he was just on the normal ballot, casual fans look up his stats and he's probably one of the top 3-5 vote getters overall and in the running for a starter.
Gsellman has to make this a game of course  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/24/2017 8:50 pm : link
.
Giselle just couldn't  
Stufftherun : 5/24/2017 8:50 pm : link
get through the 5th without some damage, could he?
RE: Gsellman has to make this a game of course  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:51 pm : link
In comment 13481359 Rob in Rockaway said:
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5th inning called and Gsellman wanted to stop pitching
They humbled Robles  
Rflairr : 5/24/2017 8:51 pm : link
They really need to send Gsellman down and humble him.
RE: They humbled Robles  
spike : 5/24/2017 8:52 pm : link
In comment 13481363 Rflairr said:
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They really need to send Gsellman down and humble him.


as soon as Matz and Lugo return, we will see gsellman and Montero go down
1 more inning  
spike : 5/24/2017 9:08 pm : link
for Gsell!
Gsellman could go 7 innings tonight  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:09 pm : link
Not the worst effort. He hasn't had the best start this year obviously but he's only 23 years old. deGrom was 4 years older when he debuted!
Im nervous of Lugo starting with a partially torn labrum...  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:11 pm : link
Even yesterday he struck out the side in the first inning then quickly lost it. I'd go

deGrom
Matz
Wheeler
Harvey
Gsellman

Lugo replaces Montero as the long man in the pen.

That would upgrade things significantly IMO.
lets go PEN  
spike : 5/24/2017 9:19 pm : link
we need to get this win!
Sewald  
spike : 5/24/2017 9:22 pm : link
needs to have a bigger role i n the pen. Kid is good
Neil Walker sucks  
Vanzetti : 5/24/2017 9:22 pm : link
If you are ahead or behind by 5+ runs, nobody I'd rather have at the plate.

In a close game, the least clutch Met I can remember
Salas looks to have turned things around  
Vanzetti : 5/24/2017 9:26 pm : link
throwing strikes

good to see because Mets are going to need him and Seward to carry more of the load than you would normally expect
Walker is hitting .324 in May  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:26 pm : link
with a wRC+ of 143. That's almost as hot as Bruce's April.
Do we think Gsellman is just off to a rough start?  
csb : 5/24/2017 9:30 pm : link
Or do you think that he overachieved last year and this is what he is? After all he never tore up the minors and he wasn't even a top 10 prospect in '15
Salas  
Vanzetti : 5/24/2017 9:31 pm : link
obviously I spoke to soon

RE: Do we think Gsellman is just off to a rough start?  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13481412 csb said:
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Or do you think that he overachieved last year and this is what he is? After all he never tore up the minors and he wasn't even a top 10 prospect in '15


I think he overachieved last year and has underachieved this year. Add it up and I think he'll be a good 5th starter, maybe even more in time.
salas is hot garbage  
spike : 5/24/2017 9:32 pm : link
we need Blevins, Sewald and Reed
Salas kind of annoys me...  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:33 pm : link
He's iiight if everything is clicking but he's pretty much the quintessential middle relief vet type that's easily replaceable. I'd rather go with younger upside options.
Salas is as good as Montero  
spike : 5/24/2017 9:34 pm : link
sucks ass.

Neil Ramirez omg
too many walks  
spike : 5/24/2017 9:36 pm : link
will burn them
My pen right now  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:38 pm : link
would be

Reed
Sewald
Blevins
Robles
Smoker
Edgin
Lugo

If Robles and Smoker give up home runs so be it. I'd rather go down with those guys than a bunch of older vets.
.  
arcarsenal : 5/24/2017 9:38 pm : link
JFC.. why is fucking Neil Ramirez pitching in this spot. This guy FUCKING SUCKS.
Awful move Terry  
ZGiants98 : 5/24/2017 9:38 pm : link
Thanks.
Can Conforto pitch?  
Rob in Rockaway : 5/24/2017 9:39 pm : link
.
Please  
Rflairr : 5/24/2017 9:39 pm : link
Release this bum Ramirez
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