It's all over the tabloids, Page Six link below.
Not sure how to feel about this.
I'd rather he was at OTAs, but if he's not, I gotta figure bowling with Iggy Azalea is a lot more wholesome than almost anything he'd be doing off-the-field with Manziel.
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Beckham tweeted for the first time in a while yesterday to say that the media were making a story out of nothing. If they both were at the same training facility and the article writers used that in order to cast aspersions and mischaracterize their meeting, it'd make a lot of sense.
Gronk just got a double payday with them; not sure if OBJ will get his with the Giants.
I like OBJ and have even defended his antics, youthful funloving , sometimes immature behavior, but I would have thought he would have cared more about being part of this new group of weapons on offense,especially after the Miami thing and his crappy playoff performance, or respecting the team image, and respecting the situation of Eli's short window and doing all he can to get the Trophy once more for him/for the first time himself and been ALL IN.
I have to begin to wonder, even if Marshall is here for 2 years, if the Giants will draft or sign a #1 WR next offseason , with their young slot and TEs receivers apparently in place.
Maybe it's time to find another hobby?
In same essence you can look back, if that's the case, to gb game as well.
Doesn't matter.. he's a "me me me type guy"..i applaud the guys who showed up at the "voluntary" OTA. They don't have to either, but they have a "right mindset
My god, how dare a guy in his early 20s go out and do something so outrageous.
We need to trade this bum while he still has value.
I second that idea. It'd save a lot of shitty threads from having to exist.
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If and when Beckham takes a slant to the house for a 75-yard touchdown in Week 1, I expect a good 40% of the people here to gripe about how he missed voluntary team activities back in May.
In same essence you can look back, if that's the case, to gb game as well.
Doesn't matter.. he's a "me me me type guy"..i applaud the guys who showed up at the "voluntary" OTA. They don't have to either, but they have a "right mindset
What makes it "the right mindset"? Is it what makes you feel better? I fail to see how anyone can judge what the correct thing to do is.
These reactions are that of player who didn't workout, came in overweight, and spent the offseason drinking and doing drugs.
Guy went bowling and drank water. Think about that for a second...
Maybe it's time to find another hobby?
It's getting worse. Everywhere you turn, you can be caught on camera..Someone in Albany has a video of you and your shopping cart..
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and their every move is disturbing.
Maybe it's time to find another hobby?
It's getting worse. Everywhere you turn, you can be caught on camera..Someone in Albany has a video of you and your shopping cart..
I stole some kids radio flyer wagon and got rid of the shopping cart.
selfish. he should've just taken a piss to save time!
Just show up on Sundays - that's really all that matters
(take that for whatever collective morality NFL fans have for what you will)
Seems like everything is one extreme over the other. I'm not enraged that OBJ isn't at a voluntary team event, but I'm also not thrilled that he opted out of it either. After what he left on the field during that game in GB last year, I was kind of hoping he'd be a bit more motivated to improve (yes, even OBJ can improve).
There are only 10 OTA days and he is missing three this week. How many times do you think Jerry Rice or Larry Fitzgerald missed practices that were not mandatory?
OBJ is an amazing talent and the best WR we have had ever. Unfortunately his head is not 100% into this and I do not see him having a LONG successful career.
As others have said this isn't a huge deal, but I really don't want to hear him chirp about how winning a Superbowl is his #1 priority, he's proven it isn't.
Seems like everything is one extreme over the other. I'm not enraged that OBJ isn't at a voluntary team event, but I'm also not thrilled that he opted out of it either. After what he left on the field during that game in GB last year, I was kind of hoping he'd be a bit more motivated to improve (yes, even OBJ can improve).
Very reasonable post
Seems like everything is one extreme over the other. I'm not enraged that OBJ isn't at a voluntary team event, but I'm also not thrilled that he opted out of it either. After what he left on the field during that game in GB last year, I was kind of hoping he'd be a bit more motivated to improve (yes, even OBJ can improve).
The correct answer is yes, but on here, no chance. Life outside of football is bigger now than ever before and these guys not only workout and prep differently but they have money making opportunities elsewhere.
Beckhams shoe deal is something he doesn't get if he isn't socially popular. He's active on social media and its paid off for him big time. He also has a workout regimine and there's no way anyone can say that isn't beneficial.
Too many people with too many opinions on what's best for a player makes for a bad thread/s.
Well, her ass ain't awful!
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all I can say is that he is not taking his job as seriously as those who showed up. Is he a leader on this team or not? He has a few new team mates on offense to get in sync with. He should be here lining up with Marshall, Engram, and Shepard. Working things out with Eli because last year the offense struggled.
There are only 10 OTA days and he is missing three this week. How many times do you think Jerry Rice or Larry Fitzgerald missed practices that were not mandatory?
What I do know is that some really good Giant players over the years, whether it be LT, Banks, Strahan, Armstead or Plax all missed significant time in TRAINING CAMP using guises of holdouts when they mostly just didn't want their bodies to get banged up.
Not sure how missing OTA's factors into this. Randy Moss, TO, Ochocinco, the other Steve Smith and Dez Bryant are among some of the WR's that skipped or missed offseason workouts, and it had a negligibal effect or none at all on their play.
But hey, a 20 something who parties on a boat, gets ass tattoos, bowls with a skanky rapper and plays catch with Johnny Manziel must have his priorities all out of whack, right?
Did he shit out football? Because if he's not eating it, sleeping it, or shitting it, then he's a piece of garbage and a cancer to the team.
Hehehe
Maybe it's time to find another hobby?
This x100000. The article actually covers what he was wearing and what he ate at a goddamn bowling alley.
chicken skewers, chicken tenders, pigs in a blanket and assorted desserts.
I want my star receiver on the Brady diet: lots of vegetables, a bit of grass fed beef.
I'll defend any player that isn't at a voluntary workout. If I was a Rams fan I wouldn't care that Donald wasn't there, same with anyone else. The Giants winning or not winning a superbowl will have nothing to do with X player coming to or skipping a BS practice on May 25th.
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Is a great leader, just great. he has won shit, and yet no matter what he does he gets defended
Well, he was on the team that went to the playoffs last year and his clutch catches in three games directly led to wins.
He hasn't won a Super Bowl, but he's really only been on one team that had the personnel to even make the postseason. The "he hasn't won shit" argument is such a malleable one anyway. Tony Romo won two playoff games in his career, right? And yet even as a Giants fan, the shit he took for going to Cabo was ridiculous. Steve Largent never won shit, either - and he's supposedly a great guy.
Beckham gets raked across the coals, even by Giants fans for ridiculous shit - the only reason he's being defended is because most people don't give a fuck who he is hanging out with and what he's eating when he's fucking bowling. If you think that's pertinent, then that's really the issue, not the people defending him.
All i can picture is this, but I'm sure it's not who it is. At least I don't think Beckham is hanging around with Ziggy.
Voluntary...then everyone shouldn't show up..its worthless..they should do away with otas
All i can picture is this, but I'm sure it's not who it is. At least I don't think Beckham is hanging around with Ziggy.
Somebody help pjcas18 out and post a pic of Iggy Azalea... rear view...please
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but what the hell is an Iggy Azalea?
All i can picture is this, but I'm sure it's not who it is. At least I don't think Beckham is hanging around with Ziggy.
Somebody help pjcas18 out and post a pic of Iggy Azalea... rear view...please
But that's not who he is.
Meanwhile, if the OTAs are voluntary, this is a non-story. If people in positions to make such decisions want the players there, they should make them mandatory.
Otherwise, it wreaks of bullshit mind games.
I think we know how serious and dedicated OBJ is to football, to the Giants, and to winning.
All i can picture is this, but I'm sure it's not who it is. At least I don't think Beckham is hanging around with Ziggy.
Professionally, she does this a lot
... never have been a fan.
To each his own.
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but what the hell is an Iggy Azalea?
All i can picture is this, but I'm sure it's not who it is. At least I don't think Beckham is hanging around with Ziggy.
Somebody help pjcas18 out and post a pic of Iggy Azalea... rear view...please
gracias. I don't get it, why would people be mad about Beckham hanging out with her?
And I'm sure some will want to criticize him for the way he wipes as well.
... never have been a fan.
To each his own.
Baby got back released in 1992.
Fat Bottomed Girls released in 1978.
It's our Permanent Revolution I guess.
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a shit.
And I'm sure some will want to criticize him for the way he wipes as well.
"Guy drops too many dingleberries"
But hey, a 20 something who parties on a boat, gets ass tattoos, bowls with a skanky rapper and plays catch with Johnny Manziel must have his priorities all out of whack, right?
Yes, he does have them out of whack.
There are only 10 OTA days and he is missing three this week. How many times do you think Jerry Rice or Larry Fitzgerald missed practices that were not mandatory?
OBJ is an amazing talent and the best WR we have had ever. Unfortunately his head is not 100% into this and I do not see him having a LONG successful career.
FFS...because he missed a few OTA, now he's not taking his job seriously? Every report coming out of practices states that OBJ is a freaking workhorse when it comes to preparing for the game. You make it sound like he's Jeff George or something.
And as far as him having a long successful career, if his first three years is any indication, I doubt you'll be proven right in your dumb (as usual) thinking. Barring injury, he'll go down as one of the best receivers to play the game in the modern era.
So you know what his priorities are?? Love it.
Whoa...tough crowd
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But that face screams paper bag.
Whoa...tough crowd
I don't see a ton of differences between her and Sarah Jessica Parker face-wise
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But that face screams paper bag.
Whoa...tough crowd
I don't see a ton of differences between her and Sarah Jessica Parker face-wise
The Schnoz... it's all about the schnoz... Iggy doesn;t have a hideous schnoz like Parker.
but I think there are legitimate questions about his judgement and ability to say no to external influences, and whether he learned anything from the playoffs last season, when he was partying in Miami the weekend before a playoff game, and then crapped the frozen tundra bed of lambeau field. although the duke workout was voluntary and these organized team activities are voluntary, they are opportunities to bond and workout with teammates. instead of working out and practicing with his teammates he is hanging out with the likes of trainwreck johnny manziel and celebrities in LA. he needs to know that in this social media/phones everywhere world, optics matter and the optics of him skipping out on team activities while having fun in LA is not going to be pleasant when he returns to face the NY media. combined with reports of him skipping out on signing engagements that he committed to, I think he needs some better managers/handlers who keep him focused on football and limiting external influence
The Schnoz... it's all about the schnoz... Iggy doesn;t have a hideous schnoz like Parker.
Some like dat ass, Beezer likes those nose
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But that face screams paper bag.
Whoa...tough crowd
I don't see a ton of differences between her and Sarah Jessica Parker face-wise
Then you need glasses.
Who said he should be there? You? Has ownership said that? Any of the coaches? Or just the mouth breathers that have no clue how to get their own affairs in order in their own lives, yet feel compelled to tell everyone else where and when they should be doing something?
You have to be mature beyond your years and Odell obviously isn't. He is like a normal young dude rather than a professional in the way he handles himself.
Norman getting into his head is part of that immaturity.
Of course, all the media buzz is also what landed Odell the big contract from Nike. So it cuts both ways
"If they don't have a story these days they'll make one..." I might get that tatted😂😂 #StayTheCourse
All the other hand wringing and absolution over the big mouth don't matter, there is a bottom line that no one wants to address for fear of looking like an old codger who might not be in touch. Yes or no, would you like him in NJ working with his team? The answer is yes for every single one of you, and you fucking know it. Now carry on with trying to be the cool dad or whatever you dim bulbs are trying to do.
If he doesn't mature and help lead us to a playoff win all while being cool with Eli spreading the ball more now with Marshall who won't just let Eli target him twice a game like Cruz and rightfully so.
Anyway if Obj doesn't mature and has another playoff stinker this year ... I would shop him and see if a Hershel Walker deal exists.. otherwise I make him a contract offer and just hope he's worth the money
Over voluntarily seeing Snacks in the shower. Nut job!
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Do you think a handful of half-speed practices in shells in May mean much of anything?
Then why do they have them?
To teach new players the schemes. If they were so important, they'd be mandatory.
So you're saying that OBJ should be at OTAs to compete for his roster spot?
Well on the one hand he dropped some balls in OTAs. On the other hand, he's had by far the most productive beginning to his career of any receiver in league history. So \_(ツ)_/
For young guys learning the offense or bubble players fighting tooth and nail to make the roster, yes.. it's important that they're there.
For a player who has already proven to be elite, knows the offense, and has a roster spot locked down? Not so much.
Eli Manning, 2005 Wild Card game: 10-18, 113 yards, 3 INTs, 0 TDs
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Pretty sure the Giants don't need to see Beckham in OTA's to determine anything about his roster spot....
Well on the one hand he dropped some balls in OTAs. On the other hand, he's had by far the most productive beginning to his career of any receiver in league history. So \_(ツ)_/
Please.. he had a bad playoff game which nullifies everything else.
HE NEEDS TO BE THERE!!!!!
All the other hand wringing and absolution over the big mouth don't matter, there is a bottom line that no one wants to address for fear of looking like an old codger who might not be in touch. Yes or no, would you like him in NJ working with his team? The answer is yes for every single one of you, and you fucking know it. Now carry on with trying to be the cool dad or whatever you dim bulbs are trying to do.
I'm not one of the people who has voiced an opinion on Beckham either way but I think you've built a pretty nice straw man.
Not one person on here said given the choice they wouldn't prefer him at OTA's. Of course they would. Everyone would also like him working out with Eli at Duke and any other opportunity during the off-season to spend time together abd build a better rapport.
that being said I think most reasonable people understand a 4th year WR, in generally the same playbook as the past couple years missing OTA's is not something to get worked up about. Rookies, new additions to the team, etc. will fall behind, but I'm pretty confident while I'd prefer Beckham attend (as would almost everyone else on here) I'm not going go sweat him missing it.
On a side note, this is all the doing of the NFLPA. They are the worst union/association in sports for many reasons, their athletes are the most underpaid (based on career longevity) and most susceptible to long-term injury yet they dig their heels in on stuff like limiting the number of training camp practices and making team activities voluntary. They need to get their priorities straight as a union.
Are the demands of the QB in the offense a bit more involved than the demands of a WR?
versus this
And you all are questioning his judgment.
I'm past blaming Beckham. Assholes are going to be assholes. If the Giants choose to pay an asshole 10% of their salary cap that's on them.
Coincidentally, in return she also offers V.D.
But since we now know that OTA's don't help established players in anyway,I guess it doesn't matter.Beckham also has that worth ethic which can't be challenged.After all,he told us himself,and that trumps blowing off the entire off season to hang out with Iggy,Johnny,and Dopey.
Not close to the worst of her problem quotes.
Beckham was better off messing with Amber Rose, if he was going to stay chasing women like this.
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Do you think a handful of half-speed practices in shells in May mean much of anything?
Then why do they have them?
To teach new players the schemes. If they were so important, they'd be mandatory.
p.s.-- The reason they aren't mandatory is pretty straightforward: the CBA forbids it. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
Makes me wonder why Swaggy P qualified
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Anak - that's hilarious, I was just going to post this. Mines has subtitles with a different translation. She's really talented.
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But since we now know that OTA's don't help established players in anyway,I guess it doesn't matter.Beckham also has that worth ethic which can't be challenged.After all,he told us himself,and that trumps blowing off the entire off season to hang out with Iggy,Johnny,and Dopey.
Lost in that genius post was that he's been working out all offseason and he was paying for a trainer, the same one Manziel also used.
But otherwise you're right...
Yoko Ono?
Joey asked you a yes or no question and you're unable to answer. Yes or no?
What would be hypocritical about that?
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Do you think a handful of half-speed practices in shells in May mean much of anything?
Then why do they have them?
To teach new players the schemes. If they were so important, they'd be mandatory.
Then why ask any players who aren't new to the team show up?
p.s.-- The reason they aren't mandatory is pretty straightforward: the CBA forbids it. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
Well I posted that on another thread, I did know it. So you can say yes, they're not mandatory because the league didnt prioritize that over something else in negotiations.
So the question is why. And the answer is that they're not super important. They're for installing scheme for guys who dont know it. Why do so many other guys go? It's beneficial for getting into things Im sure. But I bet a lot of vets go just to avoid being on coach's shit list. So basically pressure to volunteer their time to make boss happy.
da fuk was that? Good grief
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If, on the other hand, it's simply a case of him blowing it off because he prefers to work out in California or wherever, that's a different story. Then it's a case of him being a poor teammate and a bigtime hypocrite.
What would be hypocritical about that?
I would much rather it be that he wants a contract extension. That's something his teammates can relate to.
versus this
And you all are questioning his judgment.
Is that supposed to be a woman, or something?
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That's not what I'm not talking about.The point was if guys are losing there jobs,and evaluations are being made,than perhaps these voluntary practices should not be brushed off as nothing.
But since we now know that OTA's don't help established players in anyway,I guess it doesn't matter.Beckham also has that worth ethic which can't be challenged.After all,he told us himself,and that trumps blowing off the entire off season to hang out with Iggy,Johnny,and Dopey.
Lost in that genius post was that he's been working out all offseason and he was paying for a trainer, the same one Manziel also used.
But otherwise you're right...
Cmon, man... let's not let facts get in the way of a completely non-sensical rant.
He spends the entire season with them. It's hardly hypocritical to consider them brothers but also want to spend some time training, or even just hanging out relaxing, partying, whatever, on his own. I love my family, but I hardly feel the need to spend all my time with them.
So the question is why. And the answer is that they're not super important.
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He talked (or tweeted) a lot about his teammates being brothers to him so you would think he would want to be with them.
He spends the entire season with them. It's hardly hypocritical to consider them brothers but also want to spend some time training, or even just hanging out relaxing, partying, whatever, on his own. I love my family, but I hardly feel the need to spend all my time with them.
Not as cool as you though
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Iggy Azalea was on Michael Kay?
All the other hand wringing and absolution over the big mouth don't matter, there is a bottom line that no one wants to address for fear of looking like an old codger who might not be in touch. Yes or no, would you like him in NJ working with his team? The answer is yes for every single one of you, and you fucking know it. Now carry on with trying to be the cool dad or whatever you dim bulbs are trying to do.
Joey, while a year ago I would have totally responded with a resounding yes. But the thing is, he is a young player who enjoys his time off. I would much rather he not burn himself out and enjoy playing for the Giants. Shockey was the same way.
Players these days sometimes need to be given a length of leash before falling in line with their career goals. He doesnt hamg with a bad crowd, he doesnt do drugs, he doesnt fuck with guns and he diligently works out on his own. Him dropping balls in GB was just as much because of the enormity of his first playoff game that no amount of practice can cure.
Lastly, these OTAs are really just installations for the new players and players poused to take on a much larger role. Why in the hell do you want ODB doing that? [b]If your boss told you he wanted to have you come in on Christmas, Thanksgiving and and New Year's Day to do filing but it was purely optional, would you do it?
A) - what is he 18? He's obsessed with pussy so much he can't go to practice?
B) - they are dating. He can go to practice and f#ck her in a couple days. Or if she is too stupid to be cool with that, he can f#ck any hot broad walking down the street in NYC, Miami, LA or wherever he feels like going when the OTA's are over.
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FWIW, I agree with Milton, it's about contract. And that's OK. But to blame playing it safe with injuries or choosing pussy over practice as if it's a good decision......f#ck that. BS.
woman, not the loser, Manziel. That would be a shame to miss
OTA's for Manziel, a woman is a different story.
He said he will be there next month, I don't get excited
about this stuff anymore. The Y2K players do their thing.
Whether you like it or not, it's the way it is.
A) - what is he 18? He's obsessed with pussy so much he can't go to practice?
Pretty disingenuous point. 100% chance she's into butt stuff.
My view, but if I am a Giants player at OTAs I think "why is this guy so special" than the rest of us putting out effort for the team? Again a respect thing. Reminds me of Shockey.
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But, I find the headlines about this disingenuous. He may have been out with her, but there is nothing to indicate he missed OTAs because he simply wanted to hang out with her.
My view, but if I am a Giants player at OTAs I think "why is this guy so special" than the rest of us putting out effort for the team? Again a respect thing. Reminds me of Shockey.
Well they're all free to not attend. Also, if they dont know that he's so special, they're probably very, very stupid. Guy is one of the great talents to ever lace them up. If he can avoid injuries he;ll cakewalk to the HOF.
Bottom line is that these are voluntary. The list of star players not attending over the years is long and distinguished.
As long as he's at mini camp in a few weeks, there's nothing to see here other than the media and some fantasy football geeks getting all fired up for nothing.
A) - what is he 18? He's obsessed with pussy so much he can't go to practice?
B) - they are dating. He can go to practice and f#ck her in a couple days. Or if she is too stupid to be cool with that, he can f#ck any hot broad walking down the street in NYC, Miami, LA or wherever he feels like going when the OTA's are over.
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FWIW, I agree with Milton, it's about contract. And that's OK. But to blame playing it safe with injuries or choosing pussy over practice as if it's a good decision......f#ck that. BS.
I'd 10 times out of 10 take getting laid over acting like a wannabe NFL Insider on a Giants board. You should try it sometime.
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excuse here.
A) - what is he 18? He's obsessed with pussy so much he can't go to practice?
B) - they are dating. He can go to practice and f#ck her in a couple days. Or if she is too stupid to be cool with that, he can f#ck any hot broad walking down the street in NYC, Miami, LA or wherever he feels like going when the OTA's are over.
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FWIW, I agree with Milton, it's about contract. And that's OK. But to blame playing it safe with injuries or choosing pussy over practice as if it's a good decision......f#ck that. BS.
I'd 10 times out of 10 take getting laid over acting like a wannabe NFL Insider on a Giants board. You should try it sometime.
So would I. That wasn't my point, but reading comprehension isn't a strongsuit for a few here, including Bozo in ALB.
Just like Beckham can go to OTA's and the pussy will be there when he's done.
we'llbe ok
Here here.