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Cruz Responds to "Suppression" Reports

Anando : 5/25/2017 12:14 pm
Didn't want this to get buried in the original thread...

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I love the @Giants, they gave me a platform no one else did. I am forever grateful! I never said I was sabotaged, don't believe these headlines.
Thank goodness.......  
Simms11 : 5/25/2017 12:17 pm : link
I'm sure he was about to get lambasted and given the Tiki treatment here!
Oh  
River : 5/25/2017 12:17 pm : link
I love Eli too
-Victor Cruz
Good new thread. Thank you.  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/25/2017 12:18 pm : link
I think you can tell Cruz is just having a hard time right now. For those making the Tiki comparisons... Tiki would say what he'd say, then later when challenged either completely double down, or repeat the same ridiculous comment with the caveat that he loves and respects whomever he was trashing.

With Cruz it's been very different. He's saying dumb shit but then immediately saying the exact opposite later. I'm giving him a pass for the time being. He's proven plenty about his character and loyalty and I'm not going to let a couple poor comments as he currently looks to find a job for the fist time in his career cloud my opinion of him.
No. I must hate  
NoPeanutz : 5/25/2017 12:19 pm : link
all Giants WRs at all times. BBI told me so.
He did this with his other Eli comments too.  
Devon : 5/25/2017 12:20 pm : link
There's unedited clear video/audio of you saying these things.

People only deny things with that type of evidence and get away with it in politics, man,
Pretty sure there is a video  
Keith : 5/25/2017 12:20 pm : link
of him actually saying the Giants suppressed him.
Watch the interview  
dk in TX : 5/25/2017 12:22 pm : link
For yourself.
Form your own opinion - ( New Window )
say it wasn't you  
Rocky369 : 5/25/2017 12:26 pm : link
-Shaggy
It's not don't listen to the headlines  
bigbb : 5/25/2017 12:30 pm : link
You said it now you have to own it
.  
arcarsenal : 5/25/2017 12:34 pm : link
Vic is making a habit of saying dumb shit and then blaming the media for spinning things or taking them out of context.

For a guy who has been here in NY and dealt with the media for quite some time now, it sure doesn't seem like he's learned much.
Yikes  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/25/2017 12:38 pm : link
Bad look.
He did say it  
Vanzetti : 5/25/2017 12:39 pm : link
but it does not come off nearly as bad as it was reported. DJ Envy introduced the idea and Cruz kind of shrugged it off but then he came back to it later on his own.

But overall Victor comes off as a nice guy. Not arrogant or full of himself.
RE: He did say it  
Mad Mike : 5/25/2017 12:46 pm : link
In comment 13482191 Vanzetti said:
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but it does not come off nearly as bad as it was reported. DJ Envy introduced the idea and Cruz kind of shrugged it off but then he came back to it later on his own.

I'd agree that it's not quite as bad as reported, but he pretty much said the team wanted to cut him, and they knew the fan reaction would be a lot worse if he'd had a good year, so that drove things. It's a pretty bad thing to say about the team.
RE: Good new thread. Thank you.  
Jesse B : 5/25/2017 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13482149 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I think you can tell Cruz is just having a hard time right now. For those making the Tiki comparisons... Tiki would say what he'd say, then later when challenged either completely double down, or repeat the same ridiculous comment with the caveat that he loves and respects whomever he was trashing.

With Cruz it's been very different. He's saying dumb shit but then immediately saying the exact opposite later. I'm giving him a pass for the time being. He's proven plenty about his character and loyalty and I'm not going to let a couple poor comments as he currently looks to find a job for the fist time in his career cloud my opinion of him.


How has he proven his loyalty and character?
it looks a lot worse in print  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/25/2017 1:18 pm : link
than in conversation. It comes off more as doubt or wonder than as conviction.
he said it. the video just proves it  
GMAN4LIFE : 5/25/2017 1:19 pm : link
whatever... good luck to you and just move on. dont feed into the interviews.
Why anyone "wants to be a celebrity"  
wigs in nyc : 5/25/2017 1:21 pm : link
I'll never understand. This is what it is.
I believe this is the second time  
BlackLight : 5/25/2017 1:33 pm : link
he's said something, then immediately backed away like he didn't mean it or was misquoted or had it taken out of context.
Victor  
River : 5/25/2017 1:43 pm : link
Just pulled himself out of the ring of honor.
The Ring of Honor thing is interesting...  
kinard : 5/25/2017 2:00 pm : link
... Really, why should Cruz go up instead of Hakeem Nicks? Nicks played more games as a Giant, had more catches, more yards and more TDs.

Cruz' name is always thrown out there for the ROH. I get it: local kid; great story, more media friendly ....but I never hear anyone clamoring for Nicks who arguably deserves it more.
RE: The Ring of Honor thing is interesting...  
Beer Man : 5/25/2017 2:08 pm : link
In comment 13482374 kinard said:
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... Really, why should Cruz go up instead of Hakeem Nicks? Nicks played more games as a Giant, had more catches, more yards and more TDs.

Cruz' name is always thrown out there for the ROH. I get it: local kid; great story, more media friendly ....but I never hear anyone clamoring for Nicks who arguably deserves it more.
Well the man can dance after all, that should count for something.

Maybe he and Jennings can have a dance-off
RE: The Ring of Honor thing is interesting...  
allstarjim : 5/25/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13482374 kinard said:
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... Really, why should Cruz go up instead of Hakeem Nicks? Nicks played more games as a Giant, had more catches, more yards and more TDs.

Cruz' name is always thrown out there for the ROH. I get it: local kid; great story, more media friendly ....but I never hear anyone clamoring for Nicks who arguably deserves it more.


Victor is not close to being a ROH-level player. If he hadn't had that horrific injury, yes, I think there is a chance he would've gotten there.
Niether Cruz or Nicks is  
ZogZerg : 5/25/2017 2:29 pm : link
going into the Ring of Honor.
they aren't  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/25/2017 2:45 pm : link
"reports" when they straight from his mouth.
A kicker who wasn't even particularly good is in the ROH  
Greg from LI : 5/25/2017 2:57 pm : link
It's hardly Canton
Well he can talk about the dumpster fire  
B in ALB : 5/25/2017 3:05 pm : link
that he plays for in Chicago now. Time to move on from NY, Vic.
RE: Watch the interview  
HitSquad : 5/25/2017 11:55 pm : link
In comment 13482156 dk in TX said:
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For yourself. Form your own opinion - ( New Window )


After watching the video, I can tell those headlines are without context.

He's not bitter at all and gives lots of respect and appreciation to the Giants and Eli.
To a degree he's right  
widmerseyebrow : 5/26/2017 12:06 am : link
But his diminished opportunities had to do with him not being able to get open, not some conspiracy to prevent him from getting paid.
There is audio and video...  
Torrag : 5/26/2017 1:26 am : link
...of his Eli comments and suppression remarks. So he's attempting damage control after the fact. Not dumb too do so and the gullible will take it at face value.
It's all water under the bridge, but I'm not convinced that  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 5/26/2017 2:37 am : link
Cruz wasn't targeted because he couldn't get open. On two thirds of his dropbacks, Manning looked for OBJ first. Often, despite the fact that OBJ was double-teamed and not open, Eli would try to force the ball into him anyway.

In week 15, the only time Cruz was targeted in double digits, he caught eight balls.

But I don't like his chances to stick with Chicago or any other team. Receivers who left the Giants for other teams - Steve Smith, Manningham, Nicks, Randle - have not done well.
This past year has been disappointing for Cruz  
David in LA : 5/26/2017 4:05 am : link
Coming to grips with losing your career at what should have been your peak is not an easy thing to do gracefully.
Did the radio host really say..  
Vin R : 5/26/2017 5:19 am : link
"I go to every game, you were open a lot and it seemed like he wasn't getting you the ball"

What games was he watching?
Good luck to him  
Carson53 : 5/26/2017 12:34 pm : link
he was a little whiny in that interview though, pick it up
at 7:00, then listen there for a couple minutes. He basically said he could tell halfway thru the season he wasn't going to be back, and that's why they threw him the ball less.
If I was a 1000 year receiver, the perception to the fans
would not have good optics, as a 500 yard receiver,
'let's get Cruz off the books'...I don't hate the the guy,
doesn't sound that good though, everybody move on.
Where is that show 'The Breakfast Club' located, just curious?
RE: Niether Cruz or Nicks is  
Carson53 : 5/26/2017 12:35 pm : link
In comment 13482435 ZogZerg said:
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going into the Ring of Honor.


Dasit.
RE: Good luck to him  
fredgbrown : 5/26/2017 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13483317 Carson53 said:
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he was a little whiny in that interview though, pick it up
at 7:00, then listen there for a couple minutes. He basically said he could tell halfway thru the season he wasn't going to be back, and that's why they threw him the ball less.
If I was a 1000 year receiver, the perception to the fans
would not have good optics, as a 500 yard receiver,
'let's get Cruz off the books'...I don't hate the the guy,
doesn't sound that good though, everybody move on.
Where is that show 'The Breakfast Club' located, just curious?


Power 105.1 New York City
wait  
djm : 5/26/2017 3:26 pm : link
Cruz responded to his own comments and said don't believe them?

Make it stop.
RE: wait  
David in LA : 5/26/2017 3:42 pm : link
In comment 13483480 djm said:
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Cruz responded to his own comments and said don't believe them?

Make it stop.


Seems like his go to rebuttal is that his words were taken out of context. I don't think he knows what that word really means.
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