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Another Odell Beckham, Jr. Thread (to rule them all).

Klaatu : 5/27/2017 7:56 am
This one inspired by Gregg Rosenthal, writing at NFL.com (he's inspired me a couple of times already this offseason. Well, good for him):

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WHAT DOESN'T [MATTER DURING OTA SEASON]

Veterans skipping work: Feel free to think less of the next sportscaster or writer who says a player is "holding out" of voluntary offseason practices in shorts. It would be like "holding out" of bowling night with your co-workers, if you had previously negotiated your right to do so. (Feel free to think less of me after making that analogy.)

It doesn't matter that Odell Beckham Jr. has missed a few days of OTAs while signing a record-setting deal with Nike that essentially makes the Giants his secondary employer. It doesn't matter that Trent Williams and Jordan Reed are working out away from the Redskins...


It just doesn't matter! It just doesn't matter!

Anyway...when it comes to OBJ skipping OTAs, I find myself somewhere between Joey in VA and Big Blue '56. Yeah, I wish he was there, and it annoys me that he isn't, but they are voluntary after all, and do they really mean that much to a player of his caliber in the grand scheme of things? Probably not.


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He's a twat  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:00 am : link
Go get my 1500 yards and 15 TDs and then go get me my two #1s.

And Iggy Azalea's twerking looks like a old man with arthritis. She looks stiff, as hell.
RE: He's a twat  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 8:11 am : link
In comment 13483763 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:
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Go get my 1500 yards and 15 TDs and then go get me my two #1s.

And Iggy Azalea's twerking looks like a old man with arthritis. She looks stiff, as hell.


“Jealousy is an ugly thing. It makes you hate someone that you barely know. And to make it worst, you're the one who gets hurt, not that 'Someone'.”
― Nurilla Iryani, Dear Friend With Love.
C'mon, Klaatu.  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:16 am : link
I've got mine. Jealous? Not.

He's a cunt.
You sound..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2017 8:20 am : link
like more of a fucking putz with each post.

You have to work two fucking jobs and still get this fucking worked up over meaningless shit? I'm pretty sure I know why 1 job won't cut it.
RE: You sound..  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:22 am : link
In comment 13483776 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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like more of a fucking putz with each post.

You have to work two fucking jobs and still get this fucking worked up over meaningless shit? I'm pretty sure I know why 1 job won't cut it.


Whatevs, old man. I'm not the only one who feels like this. He's a distraction. Like you.
How do..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2017 8:27 am : link
you have time for distractions working two jobs, you wannabe Jamaican?
RE: How do..  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:29 am : link
In comment 13483781 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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you have time for distractions working two jobs, you wannabe Jamaican?


Easy, asswipe. My wife is West Indian. Easy to be a keyboard warrior. Your mouth wouldn't that slick if I was in front of you. You do this a lot. Internet tough guy. I'd wear your bitch ass out. Quick. I hope we meet one day. You'll see.
RE: C'mon, Klaatu.  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 8:31 am : link
In comment 13483775 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:
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I've got mine. Jealous? Not.

He's a cunt.


I don't care if he's a cunt.

I don't care who he hangs out with.

I don't care if he's straight, gay, bi, tri, or whatever.

He gets paid to play football, and he plays it better than just about anyone else in the league. That's all that matters to me. Not showing up to a voluntary workout doesn't. When it's mandatory...when he's contractually obligated to be there...I have no doubt that he'll be there, in tremendous shape, ready to work.
RE: RE: C'mon, Klaatu.  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:32 am : link
In comment 13483786 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13483775 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:


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I've got mine. Jealous? Not.

He's a cunt.



I don't care if he's a cunt.

I don't care who he hangs out with.

I don't care if he's straight, gay, bi, tri, or whatever.

He gets paid to play football, and he plays it better than just about anyone else in the league. That's all that matters to me. Not showing up to a voluntary workout doesn't. When it's mandatory...when he's contractually obligated to be there...I have no doubt that he'll be there, in tremendous shape, ready to work.


Like in Green Bay, riiiiiiight?
Biggest game of his life  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:34 am : link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWpFT_4DMnc

Came up short. Did the same at the home game with Washington. Dude drops passes in big moments. Have him. He is all yours.
Jerry Rice had a terrible playoff game against the Giants in 1986.  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 8:35 am : link
I think that was his second year in the league. Should the 49ers have gotten rid of him after that?

Oh, and did you watch Eli in his lone playoff game in 2005. Putrid.
Do people really believe  
Beezer : 5/27/2017 8:35 am : link
OBJ had a bad playoff game because of a trip to Florida?

Newsflash: Aaron Rodgers shredded our defense.
RE: Do people really believe  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:36 am : link
In comment 13483791 Beezer said:
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OBJ had a bad playoff game because of a trip to Florida?

Newsflash: Aaron Rodgers shredded our defense.


Did I mention Florida? Nope.
Huh??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2017 8:37 am : link
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Easy, asswipe. My wife is West Indian


So have I insulted a West Indian by insinuating Jamaicans are more industrious?

Me thinks you need a 3rd job so you don't spend so much time focusing on "sweet boy hair".

Maybe becoming a hair braider? I heard West Indian's are good at that shit.
RE: Do people really believe  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:37 am : link
In comment 13483791 Beezer said:
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OBJ had a bad playoff game because of a trip to Florida?

Newsflash: Aaron Rodgers shredded our defense.


And after we failed to score early which would have put the pressure on Rodgers.
why would a guy whp has npt made it to his big payfay yet  
nygiants16 : 5/27/2017 8:37 am : link
risk getting hurt during optional workouts?

vernon is not showing up and he has incentive to be there...

there is no incentive for beckham to be there...

look at all the "superstars" not shpwing up to otas, these guys are not going to risk injury, they get hurt they get nothing
RE: Huh??  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:38 am : link
In comment 13483795 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Easy, asswipe. My wife is West Indian



So have I insulted a West Indian by insinuating Jamaicans are more industrious?

Me thinks you need a 3rd job so you don't spend so much time focusing on "sweet boy hair".

Maybe becoming a hair braider? I heard West Indian's are good at that shit.


You're so white its not funny. And I'm sure that's what you meant. You're a piece of shit, Fatman. Have been for some time here.
RE: why would a guy whp has npt made it to his big payfay yet  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:39 am : link
In comment 13483797 nygiants16 said:
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risk getting hurt during optional workouts?

vernon is not showing up and he has incentive to be there...

there is no incentive for beckham to be there...

look at all the "superstars" not shpwing up to otas, these guys are not going to risk injury, they get hurt they get nothing


He doesn't have to work out or even show. I'm not saying he had to be there. But don't be a cunt about it.
Actually..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2017 8:40 am : link
it was referencing a skit from "In Living Color", but the combination of me being an old white dude and you being a hard-working two job holding stud, it results in the perfect storm.....
RE: Actually..  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:41 am : link
In comment 13483804 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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it was referencing a skit from "In Living Color", but the combination of me being an old white dude and you being a hard-working two job holding stud, it results in the perfect storm.....


Yeah, yeah. Tree jobs. Haha. I'm sure you see us all in that light.
Us  
Beezer : 5/27/2017 8:44 am : link


...

lol

Thread-o-gold.
Nope..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2017 8:46 am : link
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Yeah, yeah. Tree jobs. Haha. I'm sure you see us all in that light.


I pretty much see you as a fucking moron.
RE: Us  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:48 am : link
In comment 13483808 Beezer said:
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...

lol

Thread-o-gold.


Minorities. I'm sure fat guy has a lot of us as 'associates'.
Your age shows.  
Beezer : 5/27/2017 8:51 am : link
You brought up working a boat load of jobs so your West Indian wife can stay home with your toddler.

And you call someone else a racist?

My wife is a "minority" and I think you're an idiot.
RE: Your age shows.  
TheGhostofBlueGuy : 5/27/2017 8:54 am : link
In comment 13483814 Beezer said:
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You brought up working a boat load of jobs so your West Indian wife can stay home with your toddler.

And you call someone else a racist?

My wife is a "minority" and I think you're an idiot.


No. I referred to her as wife first.

This thread is starting to smell like pussy. Have at it, bitches.
RE: RE: Your age shows.  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 8:56 am : link
In comment 13483817 TheGhostofBlueGuy said:
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In comment 13483814 Beezer said:


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You brought up working a boat load of jobs so your West Indian wife can stay home with your toddler.

And you call someone else a racist?

My wife is a "minority" and I think you're an idiot.



No. I referred to her as wife first.

This thread is starting to smell like pussy. Have at it, bitches.


Whose fault is that? You should have stayed in your own thread and left this one alone.
Narcissism  
rocco8112 : 5/27/2017 9:01 am : link
nar·cis·sism

noun
excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance.

PSYCHOLOGY

extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.

self-centeredness arising from failure to distinguish the self from external objects, either in very young babies or as a feature of mental disorder.


What's the difference which was first?  
Beezer : 5/27/2017 9:03 am : link
You threatened a guy with physical violence, and you called him a racist.

Worst I see you being labeled? A fucking idiot.

Have fun hanging with your veteran brothers.
Wow....someone is looking to get banned.  
George from PA : 5/27/2017 9:33 am : link
Anyway, back to OBJ.....he is still very young and needs maturing. Actually reminds me of a young Brandon Marshall. He might not be a long-term Giant but that is all on him. His passion sometimes gets the better of him but his passion is also part of the reason he is great. I don't think anyone can determine his future, not even him, yet.

He has many of the same traits as my all time favorite Giant, LT!

Many Giants are captains in college, team first guys, high character guys. Not everyone on a team should wear white hats.

I'll go back to the point of this thread...  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 9:48 am : link
Which was that it just doesn't matter if OBJ isn't at the OTAs. It's a non-story that's getting blown out of proportion by writers and talk show hosts who have to write and talk about something in the offseason. Who better than OBJ to provide them with fodder?

Is it big news outside of Kansas City that Justin Houston and Marcus Peters and Eric Berry have skipped OTAs? Of course not (just like no one's worried about Olivier Vernon skipping them, either). They're not transcendent figures like OBJ. I guess if they were, they'd have their own shoe deals.
RE: I'll go back to the point of this thread...  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/27/2017 9:58 am : link
In comment 13483865 Klaatu said:
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Which was that it just doesn't matter if OBJ isn't at the OTAs. It's a non-story that's getting blown out of proportion by writers and talk show hosts who have to write and talk about something in the offseason. Who better than OBJ to provide them with fodder?

Is it big news outside of Kansas City that Justin Houston and Marcus Peters and Eric Berry have skipped OTAs? Of course not (just like no one's worried about Olivier Vernon skipping them, either). They're not transcendent figures like OBJ. I guess if they were, they'd have their own shoe deals.


Agreed with both getting back to the point of the thread and your central point. OBJ is a lightening rod one way or the other.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2017 10:09 am : link
I think much of this is being overblown - the "media" is primarily interested in click bait.

That said, rolling out Cris Carter as your spokesman is bad optics. In fact, it's almost as if Beckham is trying to create headlines. He's acting like a spoiled little bitch.
BTW  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2017 10:17 am : link
I wrote this in my game preview before the playoff game:

[quote]Is Odell Beckham a money player in the playoffs?/quote]

The answer was a resounding "no" in his first opportunity. He should be showing a bit more humility until he wipes out that memory. We Giants fans know you only get so many chances at the ring.
While I do agree with the OP  
Kivorka : 5/27/2017 10:21 am : link
Why is it that his "other" commitments just happen to coincide with OTAs? There will always be other commitments. I guess it's all about priorities
Sadly..  
BigBlue89 : 5/27/2017 10:22 am : link
There's probably going to be worse antics to deal with this season, so why waste any energy on him missing a few voluntary practices?

If we had a new coach, QB, or offensive coordinator, this would be a little more important.
FMiC is just taking full advantage of the fact  
Moondawg : 5/27/2017 10:22 am : link
that being fat now makes you a protected class. Solidarity!
RE: You sound..  
Kivorka : 5/27/2017 10:22 am : link
In comment 13483776 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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like more of a fucking putz with each post.

You have to work two fucking jobs and still get this fucking worked up over meaningless shit? I'm pretty sure I know why 1 job won't cut it.


Now look who is worked up
RE: RE: C'mon, Klaatu.  
Kivorka : 5/27/2017 10:26 am : link
In comment 13483786 Klaatu said:
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I've got mine. Jealous? Not.

He's a cunt.



I don't care if he's a cunt.

I don't care who he hangs out with.

I don't care if he's straight, gay, bi, tri, or whatever.

He gets paid to play football, and he plays it better than just about anyone else in the league. That's all that matters to me. Not showing up to a voluntary workout doesn't. When it's mandatory...when he's contractually obligated to be there...I have no doubt that he'll be there, in tremendous shape, ready to work.



Unless he gets a DWI or is accused of sexual assault
I wasn't the one claiming..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/27/2017 10:27 am : link
I didn't get worked up.

That being said, calling that dude a fucking idiot really doesn't raise the blood pressure.
As a fan  
XBRONX : 5/27/2017 10:29 am : link
all I care about is that Odell plays to his ability all the time. I could care less that he is an asshole as a person.
RE: Jerry Rice had a terrible playoff game against the Giants in 1986.  
Kivorka : 5/27/2017 10:31 am : link
In comment 13483789 Klaatu said:
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I think that was his second year in the league. Should the 49ers have gotten rid of him after that?

Oh, and did you watch Eli in his lone playoff game in 2005. Putrid.


The difference is that Rice and Eli were NEVER a distraction to their team. That's the point
Cris Carter's taking shots at our WRs coach now?  
bceagle05 : 5/27/2017 11:12 am : link
Adam Henry probably works 70-hour weeks trying to make Odell and his teammates better. Carter will help Odell only until the next hotshot WR comes along to suck his dick.
Great thread  
LCtheINTMachine : 5/27/2017 11:15 am : link
I'll defend the shit stirrer by saying he actually didn't threaten FMiC. Because does said "threat" really carry teeth on the internet?

I'll defend FMiC as well. On what grounds I can't really say but internet fights are fun!

Eric is right about Odell acting like a bitch. I don't care that he skips OTAs one bit but if you don't see that Odell isn't a bitch that the rest of the league likes to whoop up on, I don't know what to tell you.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/27/2017 11:32 am : link
If I were able to give Odell one piece of advice, it would be to get off of social media.

But the attention drives $$$. He knows that.
RE:  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 11:36 am : link
In comment 13483880 Kivorka said:
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In comment 13483786 Klaatu said:

I don't care if he's a cunt.

I don't care who he hangs out with.

I don't care if he's straight, gay, bi, tri, or whatever.

He gets paid to play football, and he plays it better than just about anyone else in the league. That's all that matters to me. Not showing up to a voluntary workout doesn't. When it's mandatory...when he's contractually obligated to be there...I have no doubt that he'll be there, in tremendous shape, ready to work.




Unless he gets a DWI or is accused of sexual assault


A DWI? Sexual assault? Is there anything in his history that leads you to believe that either one is a real possibility?
RE: RE: Jerry Rice had a terrible playoff game against the Giants in 1986.  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 11:38 am : link
In comment 13483884 Kivorka said:
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In comment 13483789 Klaatu said:


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I think that was his second year in the league. Should the 49ers have gotten rid of him after that?

Oh, and did you watch Eli in his lone playoff game in 2005. Putrid.



The difference is that Rice and Eli were NEVER a distraction to their team. That's the point


Who's to say that OBJ is a distraction to his team? Certainly not his teammates. It seems to me that the only people "distracted" are the media and the fans.
RE: ...  
Klaatu : 5/27/2017 11:40 am : link
In comment 13483903 Eric from BBI said:
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If I were able to give Odell one piece of advice, it would be to get off of social media.

But the attention drives $$$. He knows that.


It's a brave new world. Might as well get used to it.
Being on social media  
UConn4523 : 5/27/2017 11:43 am : link
is in part what got him the Nike contract. I hate social media and would prefer if the players I rooted for weren't on it but Beckham is a brand whether you like it or not and part of keeping that brand alive and well is being active on social media.
OBJ has become the biggest DIVA WR  
ZogZerg : 5/27/2017 11:43 am : link
In the league today. That sucks, but it is what it is.

And, yes he is a distraction, but not a huge one yet.
Let's not just blame the fans and media.  
bceagle05 : 5/27/2017 11:43 am : link
I'm sure Reese, McAdoo and Adam Henry are pissed at Odell right now, and others in the building. There are plenty of days in the offseason he can work out with Cris Carter that don't conflict with OTAs.
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