He had a very good rookie campaign but I think he's going to make a leap this year. Marshall and OBJ will attract a lot of attention and Shep is going to carve up the middle of the field.
What player do you think makes the leap this year? Perk? Apple? Goodsen?
Just a guess
The best DLine in the NFL.
The best set of CBs.
And Landon Collins.
That's almost not fair.
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And Bromley
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If Bromley made a leap that would be a big deal. Not as big a deal as Flowers making a leap, but a big deal. They could sure use a DT who can get pressure up the middle on the QB. And it's probably not a great idea to expect Tomlinson to start Day 1.
FWIW, Snacks has praised Tomlinson for his ability to pick things up very quickly.
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And Bromley
Just a guess
If Bromley made a leap that would be a big deal. Not as big a deal as Flowers making a leap, but a big deal. They could sure use a DT who can get pressure up the middle on the QB. And it's probably not a great idea to expect Tomlinson to start Day 1.
With our old regime,I could see Tomlinson not getting much run his rookie season. But honestly by seasons end I fully expect him to start. Of course,He might show us something early and start from the jump.
It's still early.....
Flowers shows up big time.
And Perkins cracks 1000 yards on the ground with a half dozen TDs for good measure.
The best DLine in the NFL.
The best set of CBs.
And Landon Collins.
That's almost not fair.
The best DLine in the NFL.
The best set of CBs.
And Landon Collins.
That's almost not fair.
Best D line in football MAYBE. By a bit over the Jets, Eagles and Seahawks.
Best set of CBs assuming DRC is healthy.
Im not being THAT guy, but you remember NY TD Blue right? How'd that work out?
Flowers shows up big time.
And Perkins cracks 1000 yards on the ground with a half dozen TDs for good measure.
Holy shit....Adam, arent you in med school? Youre supposed to know the effects of the drugs not rage with them. ;-)
Flowers shows up big time.
And Perkins cracks 1000 yards on the ground with a half dozen TDs for good measure.
It can't be Goodson because he won't be on the field in pass downs. Tackles is a possibility but our nickel backers are going to be Robinson and Casillas again
I also suspect that Davis Webb wins out the backup QB job about half way through the season. He won't unseat Eli of course, but he'll prove to the coaches that he's a better fit than Geno or Josh.
Also hoping Okwara takes the next step in proving he's a solid DE backup.
Apple - stud, close to shutdown good
Perkins - 1,000+ 4.5 ypc or better, catches well too
Shepard - makes the easy grabs in the slot and more YAC
Hart - gets his technique down and goes from worst to acceptable (can live with him0
Adams - kid has looked good, big body
Okwara - surprises with more strength, experience
Bottom line: we had an all-time great off-season in 2016 and I think 2017 will be solid as well.
So long as the 2015 class steps up even more we'll be superb this year. simply superb.
Flowers... big, strong, fit. A year of experience working with Scolari...
Flowers... big, strong, fit. A year of experience working with Scolari...
Solari
Our secondary will be the league's best if it stays healthy and D. Thompson starts healthy at FS.
On defense, I am hoping Apple and Okwara take that next step....
Flowers high side is adequate, I think we'll see that but I don't think there's much more potential than that. He should be a guard and not in space.
Ditto Hart
Sheps' production dropped as the season went on. This is a nice receiver, but little explosiveness or YAC. The word in the league was "lack of strength" and a strong CB could handle him. His drop in production was a result of the league figuring him out. He'll profit from what's around him, and become a nice player but that's it.
Perkins showed some nice elusiveness..I don't think this is a top back
That's not to knock those guys but they're not likely to be the second coming.
The "yes's"
Fred Caulfield started every game as a rookie in a superbowl year, I expect Tomlinson will.
Apple...yes, very high side, seems like a hard worker, glides, quick hips, top potential
I expect the MLB to be top drawer and bring a physicality and intimidation that elevates the whold defense..
Vernon was good with a bad wrist, I think he might be better this year.
The player they most need to break out is D. Thompson.
What did you think of Collins after his rookie year???
Is there ANYONE you like?
Rookie do hit a wall since they don't stop from their bowl game onward. The first season in the NFL is VERY long and for rookies to get "worn out" is a known fact. To say "You've seen the best they have" or not expecting someone to step up is not thinking correctly.
Jerell Adams - I think he'll replace Tye and we'll be glad he did.
Bobby Hart - He's made progress already, and I think he'll improve again this season.
Eli Apple - He was good as a rookie, but will be even better with a year of experience under his belt.
On the decline:
Eli - Father Time takes no prisoners
Brandon Marshall - ditto
Jonathan Casillas - ditto
Jay Bromley - I don't think he lasts past August 20
with the OT they drafted and signed flowers will be pushed to play like a legitimate starting LT not just inherit the job as he has done so far,the knock on him was always he projected to more of a RT but that he could develop into a LT because he had all the tools so we will see if he does this team gets better very quickly
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Goodson leads our LB Corp in tackles and PDs.
Flowers shows up big time.
And Perkins cracks 1000 yards on the ground with a half dozen TDs for good measure.
Holy shit....Adam, arent you in med school? Youre supposed to know the effects of the drugs not rage with them. ;-)
Not med school. Just finished my masters in linguistics actually. Maybe do some law clerk stuff while applying to PhDs. But drugs are good. Preferably the green leafy kind. And if Goodson breaks out, we can indulge on my dime!
He came to the Giants with the hype that he was a "steal" in the draft and showed some possibilities late in the season.
But now the beat writers are saying good things about him as though he's gotten stronger and is showing some awesome skills in the OTA's. He is one I'd love to see take that big step into a quality TE to compliment Engram and Ellison.
Holds like a million different NFL records for Tight Ends?
Sure-fire bet for the Hall of Fame?
Yeah, I hope Adams does that too...
He came to the Giants with the hype that he was a "steal" in the draft and showed some possibilities late in the season.
But now the beat writers are saying good things about him as though he's gotten stronger and is showing some awesome skills in the OTA's. He is one I'd love to see take that big step into a quality TE to compliment Engram and Ellison.
He's built like Martellus Bennett who really filled out when he got to the Giants and was playing at like 285. Very encouraging to hear he's "getting it".
Engram, Ellison, Adams ... it could happen.
* back to the thread, I think Perkins becomes a "household name" this year similar to Devonta freeman's breakout
I can't remember the last time I was this excited for a season.