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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/10/2017 7:26 pm
I was out with some buddies last night and, definitely a few too many brews deep, this topic came up regarding the NFL Draft. For me, number one was Matt Ryan. I thought he was going to be a total bust having seen him multiple times in college. Also, I've been totally wrong about Joey Bosa thus far. He was a beast last season.

On the flip side, I thought Brady Quinn was going to be a star. ND bias no doubt. I watch a ton of SEC games and would have bet anything Trent Richardson was going to a beast in the NFL for years.

Who were you wrong about?
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And I totally thought  
santacruzom : 6/11/2017 12:04 am : link
That Will Allen would never go to jail.
I thought Tiki Barber  
Sarcastic Sam : 6/11/2017 12:38 am : link
would be a TV star.

Whoops.
RE: I thought Tiki Barber  
FStubbs : 6/11/2017 7:03 am : link
In comment 13495902 Sarcastic Sam said:
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would be a TV star.

Whoops.


To this day I wonder what goes through the mind of Tiki Barber every time he sees his nemesis Strahan with literally EVERYTHING he ever wanted - the ring, the TV career, the Hall of Fame spot, the respect ...
OBJ:  
Big Blue '56 : 6/11/2017 7:10 am : link
I thought he would have attended and excelled at OTAs. Hopefully he will recover by the time the season starts.
I was so totally wrong about this guy I had to stop drinking it:  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/11/2017 7:23 am : link
The Kool-Aid
RE: OBJ:  
Klaatu : 6/11/2017 8:07 am : link
In comment 13495918 Big Blue '56 said:
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I thought he would have attended and excelled at OTAs. Hopefully he will recover by the time the season starts.


You dog!
I honestly thought  
Glover : 6/11/2017 8:23 am : link
Heath Sch黮er was going to go off. Obviously he was short, and Ryanis not, thought Ryan was good enough to take the shot. I thought Bosa would be a great run defender, but he's shown better pass rush skills than I thought he would. I was pretty high on Erasmus James, but injuries derailed him. Also thought John Roper was going to be a beast. 8 sack on season in a 6 year career.
Surprised,  
oldog : 6/11/2017 9:02 am : link
that no one has mentioned Jeremy, whose super competitiveness and even rage seemed to lead to him falling short of becoming the true hall of famer that his early performance seemed to promise. As well, of course, he played so robustly that injury was always a concern. Another player, who, of course, has launched along the same orbit, OBJ.
RE: Phil Simms  
madgiantscow009 : 6/11/2017 9:20 am : link
In comment 13495767 gtt350 said:
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Phil who???


what didn't you like about Simms?

in his senior season he completed 92 of 173 passes for a 53.2% completion percentage and had six touchdown passes, 11 interceptions, and 1,229 yards.[2] The team also finished with a 2𤖫 record in his senior season and failed to make a bowl game during Simms' four years

[2] Simms finished his career at Morehead State with 409 completions in 835 attempts for a 48.9% completion percentage.[2] He also totalled 32 touchdowns, 45 interceptions, and a school-record 5,545 yards.[2]
Yeah, Tyrone Wheatley  
Gman11 : 6/11/2017 9:42 am : link
I thought he was going to be the superstar RB they so desperately needed.

Kerry Collins. Thought he was trash, but had a few decent seasons.

Kurt Warner more than once. I thought he might hold the starter job for a year or two with the Giants. In fact, he started out pretty good, then seemed to be afraid to let go of the ball. I then figured he was done. Then, he goes to the Cardinals and has a revival.
I admit  
ChicagoMarty : 6/11/2017 9:45 am : link
I thought Ron Dayne was going to be a star...
I was absolutely positive  
Mike fr Warwick : 6/11/2017 10:18 am : link
Derek Broen would be the next TE superstar.
Here are my rights and wrongs  
PatersonPlank : 6/11/2017 10:35 am : link
Wrong:
Ron Dayne - i though since he did it for a big program
Trent Richardson - again, ALA so why not (still can't believe what a bust he was)
Ryan Leaf - I thought he was as good as Peyton
Gallery - actually did ok later as a G
Mandarich - workout steroid warrior
The Boz - I thought he'd be good

Rights:
Manzel - never a doubt
Barden - waste of a 3rd from Cal Poly (what division are they in?)
Leinert - surrounded by loads of talent, I could have completed a pass at USC (or two)
Brandon Weeden


RE: I still believe Tyrone Wheatley  
smshmth8690 : 6/11/2017 10:46 am : link
In comment 13495714 djm said:
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Will break every nyg rushing record there is.


First thought I had as well.
My brother is a Bucs fan  
Biteymax22 : 6/11/2017 10:47 am : link
When they drafted Winston I called to congratulate him for picking up JaMarcus Russel...
Cedric Jones  
Les in TO : 6/11/2017 10:47 am : link
I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick
ususally accompanied by  
idiotsavant : 6/11/2017 10:52 am : link
the word 'compromise' players like Mitch Petrus, who I though would make a decent sleeper guard, using the logic that 'we wont draft one early, as I would prefer, so lets find one later.' Kid was strong and stout...did very little.

Active Players? - Kennard (LB) who I thought would do very little to nothing (lazy on my part, I did not even look at the kids data, it was just a dumb comment I really made on JR). . That said, he has only flashed not been a solid contributor. Yet. but he may become one!

Big Misses? Ron Dayne, liked the idea of a battering ram to make the D stay close, figure that he would do. He had a few moments, but not worth the draft spot.

Hits with big RBs? Brandon Jacobs!

RE: Cedric Jones  
BigBlueShock : 6/11/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13495984 Les in TO said:
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I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick

I hate the Ravens to this day for that draft. And teams for passing on Lawrence Phillips. Ogden was ours for the taking, damn it. Much like I hate the Timberwolves for taking two freaking PGs and forcing the Warriors to take Steph Curry, one pick before the Knicks. Those two drafts will forever eat at my soul.
All misses  
Keyser : 6/11/2017 11:35 am : link
Reggie Bush - I thought he would be a much bigger star.

Coby Fleener - Actually, looking at his stats, he's been decent, but I thought he would be an all-pro playing with Luck.

OO - watched him at UCLA, figured he would be much better than what little he has shown.

Matt Flynn - I thought he would have been a starter somewhere at some point in his career.

Jamarcus Russell - Yes, I admit it, I thought he would be good, or at least not as bad as he was.

Drew Olsen - watched him at UCLA win a bunch of games all by himself. Figured he would at least catch on as a backup with a chance to play some if there were injuries. Surprised that he never caught on as a project/backup.
RE: Cedric Jones  
BigBlueShock : 6/11/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13495984 Les in TO said:
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I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick

I hate the Ravens to this day for that draft. And teams for passing on Lawrence Phillips. Ogden was ours for the taking, damn it. Much like I hate the Timberwolves for taking two freaking PGs and forcing the Warriors to take Steph Curry, one pick before the Knicks. Those two drafts will forever eat at my soul.
Wtf?  
BigBlueShock : 6/11/2017 12:01 pm : link
Not sure why my post randomly posted again, sorry guys
My big miss was on Matt Leinart  
twostepgiants : 6/11/2017 1:23 pm : link
I thought he would be very good
Kanavis McGahee  
RGhost : 6/11/2017 3:42 pm : link
I was absolutely ecstatic when we picked him in the 2nd round in '91.

I thought he was a perfect fit for our defense, and would develop into a Charles Haley style beast coming off the edge.

Yeah, no. A total of 1.5 sacks in 3 years in Blue...
RE: Kanavis McGahee  
Milton : 6/11/2017 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13496176 RGhost said:
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I was absolutely ecstatic when we picked him in the 2nd round in '91.
I remember thinking Alfred Williams got all the hype, but McGahee was the one that made that Colorado DL tick.
David Wilson  
LCtheINTMachine : 6/12/2017 12:17 am : link
I thought he'd be big-time for us.

Nuff said.
Not the NFL...  
KentGraham : 6/12/2017 1:47 am : link
But I remember saying Steph Curry was going to just be another Eddie House... I was a little off on that.
I have 2 that stand out  
Nick in LA : 6/12/2017 3:15 am : link
1. Ron Dayne... I thought he was going to be amazing and the best back we ever had.

2. Ramses Barden.... I really thought he was going to be a beast and the best receiver we had seen on the team.

Now i feel stupid
Keeping it to Current Guys Here  
HugeS : 6/12/2017 8:27 am : link
Joey Bosa - Thought this guy had bust written all over him and he now looks like a future all pro.

Jarvis Landry - Saw him as a productive try hard college guy who's physical limitations would cause him to wash out quickly in the NFL. I did not expect an athletic Pro Bowl caliber receiver who doubles as an elite return man.

On the Giants:
Justin Pugh - Was even more steamed when the Giants picked Pugh than when they picked Flowers. At least with Flowers I thought there was some upside to work with compared to a short armed athletically limited guy like Pugh. Now he's the anchor of the line at Guard, one of the team leaders, can play Tackle in a pinch, and looks anything but a reach especially compared to all the other guys picked over him.

Odell Beckham Jr. - Not really a player I thought would be a bust. I knew he was good but thought why draft a good undersized slot receiver when two studs who I saw as future All Pros, Zach Martin and Aaron Donald were there for the taking at positions that could create an immediate impact. It seemed redundant to double down on a smallish slot receiver when we already had Cruz filling that role. Was way off on our resident all world receiver with the goofy fro hawk.
Years back, a WR out of Ohio State  
Jimmy Googs : 6/12/2017 8:58 am : link
Michael Jenkins I think was his name. Hoping Giants would get him but he went fairly early to ATL. Thought he was going to be really good.

And then he kind of sucked...

Thought Trent Richardson would be a star  
Greg from LI : 6/12/2017 9:23 am : link
Also thought Mike Evans would be a bust. Wrong on both counts.
recently  
feelflows : 6/12/2017 9:32 am : link
for the Giants, I thought Andre Williams was going to be very good.

Partly was "hope" because he's a local kid to me, partly because the Giants really needed a stud RB..but mostly because of his ridiculous numbers in College.

I, self admittedly, do not watch much college football at all. But the numbers just really popped out to me.

oh well!!
BECKHAM...  
x meadowlander : 6/12/2017 11:04 am : link
...I saw an injury-prone, prima-donna who would likely to cause far more headlines based on his behavior than his gameplay.

I still think he's an injury-prone jackass.

But Jesus, can that kid play. Best receiver I ever saw.
Lawrence Taylor.  
x meadowlander : 6/12/2017 11:06 am : link
I wanted George Rogers SO bad! What LINEBACKER is worth a #1 OVERALL??? It was an ASSININE pick, and I let everyone know.

Since then, I've made a jackass out of myself on draft day many, many times.

If it were up to me, we'd have gotten Sean Taylor instead of Eli.

Be very, very grateful I'm not GM.
Ryan Strome.  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/12/2017 11:10 am : link
Thought he'd be a perennial all-star.
RE: Ryan Strome.  
feelflows : 6/12/2017 11:15 am : link
In comment 13496852 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Thought he'd be a perennial all-star.


I thought Hamonic was your whipping boy.
Kijana Carter  
jsuds : 6/12/2017 11:58 am : link
I used to think when I saw him run for Penn State that he did not just have an "eye for the hole" when he carried it; he had an eye for the end-zone. Hurt his knee in training camp and I don't think he ever was able to start a game for his less than two seasons career.
RE: Kijana Carter  
santacruzom : 6/12/2017 12:10 pm : link
In comment 13496966 jsuds said:
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I used to think when I saw him run for Penn State that he did not just have an "eye for the hole" when he carried it; he had an eye for the end-zone. Hurt his knee in training camp and I don't think he ever was able to start a game for his less than two seasons career.


Yeah, it's impossible to say, but I feel like he would have validated your position on him if he didn't tear his knee apart before his first regular season started. That sucked.
RE: RE: I thought Tiki Barber  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/12/2017 12:22 pm : link
In comment 13495917 FStubbs said:
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would be a TV star.

Whoops.



To this day I wonder what goes through the mind of Tiki Barber every time he sees his nemesis Strahan with literally EVERYTHING he ever wanted - the ring, the TV career, the Hall of Fame spot, the respect ...


To be fair, Tiki peaked to early with his TV Career. Started off doing sports on the Today show, and everything went downhill from there.
RE: David Wilson  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 6/12/2017 12:28 pm : link
In comment 13496555 LCtheINTMachine said:
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I thought he'd be big-time for us.

Nuff said.


I guess breaking some NFL records isn't enough for you...
RE: RE: RE: I thought Tiki Barber  
Klaatu : 6/12/2017 12:30 pm : link
In comment 13496992 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 13495902 Sarcastic Sam said:


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would be a TV star.

Whoops.



To this day I wonder what goes through the mind of Tiki Barber every time he sees his nemesis Strahan with literally EVERYTHING he ever wanted - the ring, the TV career, the Hall of Fame spot, the respect ...



To be fair, Tiki peaked to early with his TV Career. Started off doing sports on the Today show, and everything went downhill from there.


Tiki should have never left Fox, at least not as early as he did.
RE: RE: Cedric Jones  
Mike from SI : 6/12/2017 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13495992 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13495984 Les in TO said:


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I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick


I hate the Ravens to this day for that draft. And teams for passing on Lawrence Phillips. Ogden was ours for the taking, damn it. Much like I hate the Timberwolves for taking two freaking PGs and forcing the Warriors to take Steph Curry, one pick before the Knicks. Those two drafts will forever eat at my soul.


I was at that NBA draft and it was one of the more depressing fan experiences of my life. I was hoping against hope the Warriors would pass on Steph.
This board melted down over both JPP and Odell.  
Mike from SI : 6/12/2017 12:46 pm : link
Just a reminder.
...  
annexOPR : 6/12/2017 12:49 pm : link
I thought Jacquian Williams was going to be Armstead 2.0

2014 draft  
sshin05 : 6/12/2017 1:11 pm : link
had some terrific talent. OBJ probably doesnt go #1 overall either. That might goto Derek Carr.
Jerrod Bunch  
FredDryer89 : 6/12/2017 3:04 pm : link
Thought he was going to be like earl cambell
why was Joey Bosa  
santacruzom : 6/13/2017 4:10 pm : link
predicted to be a bust by so many people? His motor and relentless were never in doubt, and he had above average athleticism and skills to match.
Hankins  
Slade : 6/13/2017 4:17 pm : link
Kelvin Beachum,
Anthony Davis and
Reggie Nelson...
RE: RE: RE: For me, here are some guys that fell way short of expectations  
chopperhatch : 6/13/2017 6:31 pm : link
In comment 13495799 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13495753 David in LA said:


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William Joseph: I figured pretty much anyone on that U of Miami program were locks to be quality players. Joseph turned out to be a huge disappointment.

Tim Carter: Blazing speed, chiseled physique. This guy had everything you could ask for in WR. He was also cousins with Doc Gooden and Gary Sheffield, so I figured with good genetics he had a shot. Unfortunately, it never quite panned out.

Brian Alford: One of my best friends is a huge Purdue fan, so he'd constantly be in my ear about how awesome he was. He is another one of those track stars that weren't really football players.

Tyrone Wheatley: I don't think I was ever more excited for a pick than Wheatley.



Alford went to Penn State.



You are thinking of Jay Alford, David said Brian Alford, who attended Purdue.


Omg, yes. My bad David. I had totally forgotten about that receiver.
I thought Reggie Bush....  
Gmen8691 : 6/14/2017 9:53 am : link
was going to be the next Gayle Sayers.
RE: Lawrence Taylor.  
Jersey55 : 6/14/2017 5:17 pm : link
In comment 13496841 x meadowlander said:
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I wanted George Rogers SO bad! What LINEBACKER is worth a #1 OVERALL??? It was an ASSININE pick, and I let everyone know.

Since then, I've made a jackass out of myself on draft day many, many times.

If it were up to me, we'd have gotten Sean Taylor instead of Eli.

Be very, very grateful I'm not GM.


I wanted Sean Taylor too and look at the player he turned out to be, who knew some ass hole would murder him...
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