The 'I totally was wrong about this guy' thread.

Thought he was a hof lock

Granted the Texans allowed him to get beat to hell but I was way off

I joined the chorus in thinking that Reggie Bush would have a real impact on the NFL

He's been a better pro then I thought. I thought all the QBs in that draft were pretty weak first round prospects.

I was furious when the Cowboys signed him. I remember it being announced during the Big East Tournament, which I was watching with my college roommates.

Chandler Jones...

Aaron Donald is what I expected

Will break every nyg rushing record there is.

In comment 13495674 Moondawg said:

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I joined the chorus in thinking that Reggie Bush would have a real impact on the NFL

Loved bush coming out. Still feel like he could have been a hof player if certain things broke better for him. He was pretty damn good regardless but injuries hurt and I'm not sure he was utilized properly but it's hard to cry for the guy when he got to play with drew brees.

and a potential bust. I must have been influenced by that because I was shocked when the Giants picked him.

And I was pissed that the Giants drafted Mark Bavaro when Herschel Walker was still available.

In comment 13495728 OntheRoad said:

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and a potential bust. I must have been influenced by that because I was shocked when the Giants picked him.

Some Giants fans were wrong about JPP twice :-)

Thought he'd be great he was so huge. Mehhhh, not so much.

For the Giants I thought Thomas Lewis from the '94 draft was going to be the next Jerry Rice and Tyrone Wheatley from the '95 draft was going to be the next Emmit Smith. Wrong on both accounts.

On the flip side, I wasn't a fan of Tiki Barber early on. I was getting annoyed that first round pick Ron Dayne was losing touches to Barber. He proved me wrong and became the best RB I've ever seen wear Giants blue!

I also thought David Diehl as a rookie would have been a liability starting in 2003. I was very pleasantly surprised how he developed and became one of the key members of two SuperBowl championships.

William Joseph: I figured pretty much anyone on that U of Miami program were locks to be quality players. Joseph turned out to be a huge disappointment.

Tim Carter: Blazing speed, chiseled physique. This guy had everything you could ask for in WR. He was also cousins with Doc Gooden and Gary Sheffield, so I figured with good genetics he had a shot. Unfortunately, it never quite panned out.

Brian Alford: One of my best friends is a huge Purdue fan, so he'd constantly be in my ear about how awesome he was. He is another one of those track stars that weren't really football players.

Tyrone Wheatley: I don't think I was ever more excited for a pick than Wheatley.

Tiki Barber: I thought he was only a 3rd down back, and I was gung ho on Wheatley getting snaps as the featured guy.

Brad Maynard: I was of the opinion that the guy sucked, didn't imagine him moving on and becoming a pretty damn good punter in Chicago.

Ike Hilliard: Only because I wanted Yatil Green lmao.

Phil who???

In comment 13495753 David in LA said:

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William Joseph: I figured pretty much anyone on that U of Miami program were locks to be quality players. Joseph turned out to be a huge disappointment. Tim Carter: Blazing speed, chiseled physique. This guy had everything you could ask for in WR. He was also cousins with Doc Gooden and Gary Sheffield, so I figured with good genetics he had a shot. Unfortunately, it never quite panned out. Brian Alford: One of my best friends is a huge Purdue fan, so he'd constantly be in my ear about how awesome he was. He is another one of those track stars that weren't really football players. Tyrone Wheatley: I don't think I was ever more excited for a pick than Wheatley.

Alford went to Penn State.

Jay went to Penn St
Brian went to Purdue

In comment 13495790 chopperhatch said:

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In comment 13495753 David in LA said: Quote: William Joseph: I figured pretty much anyone on that U of Miami program were locks to be quality players. Joseph turned out to be a huge disappointment. Tim Carter: Blazing speed, chiseled physique. This guy had everything you could ask for in WR. He was also cousins with Doc Gooden and Gary Sheffield, so I figured with good genetics he had a shot. Unfortunately, it never quite panned out. Brian Alford: One of my best friends is a huge Purdue fan, so he'd constantly be in my ear about how awesome he was. He is another one of those track stars that weren't really football players. Tyrone Wheatley: I don't think I was ever more excited for a pick than Wheatley. Alford went to Penn State.

You are thinking of Jay Alford, David said Brian Alford, who attended Purdue.

In comment 13495731 Milton said:

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And I was pissed that the Giants drafted Mark Bavaro when Herschel Walker was still available.

After watching Ryan leaf and Vince young play out of their minds good in their respective bowl games you had to love both qbs. Leaf was perfect and young was even better. At least young had a winning record as a pro and actually had some fun nice moments. Leaf was the worst.

Yep. It's true. I wanted to keep Collins and draft Robert Gallery and not start over again at QB with this skinny kid who was going to take a least a couple years to develop. Guess I was wrong about THAT lol

..every week, quite literally every week I woke up Sunday thinking THIS was finally going to be the game that Dave Brown and our offense would get it together (especially Brown) and we'd be contenders

Ramses Barden
Clint Sintim



With James Hardy's death this week, he came to mind. I thought Hardy was going to be a star WR in the NFL.


Fun fact: I mentioned James Hardy in the 2007 Super Bowl thread

wrong, recently.

For the Giants, I championed for Travis Beckum hard, they drafted him, and I was completely wrong on him. He never put in the work for them to even try to use him and then when he started to maybe pull it together to at least be an adequate backup, he got injured.

And then we had Voltron on defense. Turned out most of the parts of Voltron couldnt stop getting hurt

In comment 13495858 jnoble said:

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And then we had Voltron on defense. Turned out most of the parts of Voltron couldnt stop getting hurt

I was stoked for Mr. Nickels. I was so excited. Turns out the only good game had with us was against the Cowboys up until he got injured and was out for the season


And that was the same game where Tony Romo debuted

In comment 13495857 Devon said:

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wrong, recently. For the Giants, I championed for Travis Beckum hard, they drafted him, and I was completely wrong on him. He never put in the work for them to even try to use him and then when he started to maybe pull it together to at least be an adequate backup, he got injured.

I thought Beckum was a talented kid, but didn't like the fit at all in a KG offense. This could be another one of those Bryan Kehl situation, where the front office made the pick, but the coach wasn't on board with the pick. I wasn't aware of any questions about his work ethic (I could be wrong!), but IIRC his career was derailed with a knee injury.

The rare Randle-sequel case were a player actually earned the lazy/subpar effort tag, even if he tried to correct it late.

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The rare Randle-sequel case were a player actually earned the lazy/subpar effort tag, even if he tried to correct it late.

*-esque, not sequel

who didn't like Strahan early in his career.

I'd rather talk about the times I was right...Brewer was the only lineman I ever saw who shunned contact.

By annual Gianta.com puff pieces about Shaun Williams. They were never prophetic.

That Will Allen would never go to jail.

would be a TV star.

Whoops.

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would be a TV star. Whoops.

To this day I wonder what goes through the mind of Tiki Barber every time he sees his nemesis Strahan with literally EVERYTHING he ever wanted - the ring, the TV career, the Hall of Fame spot, the respect ...

I thought he would have attended and excelled at OTAs. Hopefully he will recover by the time the season starts.

The Kool-Aid

In comment 13495918 Big Blue '56 said:

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I thought he would have attended and excelled at OTAs. Hopefully he will recover by the time the season starts.

You dog!

Heath Schüler was going to go off. Obviously he was short, and Ryanis not, thought Ryan was good enough to take the shot. I thought Bosa would be a great run defender, but he's shown better pass rush skills than I thought he would. I was pretty high on Erasmus James, but injuries derailed him. Also thought John Roper was going to be a beast. 8 sack on season in a 6 year career.

that no one has mentioned Jeremy, whose super competitiveness and even rage seemed to lead to him falling short of becoming the true hall of famer that his early performance seemed to promise. As well, of course, he played so robustly that injury was always a concern. Another player, who, of course, has launched along the same orbit, OBJ.

In comment 13495767 gtt350 said:

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Phil who???

what didn't you like about Simms?

in his senior season he completed 92 of 173 passes for a 53.2% completion percentage and had six touchdown passes, 11 interceptions, and 1,229 yards.[2] The team also finished with a 2–6–1 record in his senior season and failed to make a bowl game during Simms' four years

[2] Simms finished his career at Morehead State with 409 completions in 835 attempts for a 48.9% completion percentage.[2] He also totalled 32 touchdowns, 45 interceptions, and a school-record 5,545 yards.[2]

I thought he was going to be the superstar RB they so desperately needed.

Kerry Collins. Thought he was trash, but had a few decent seasons.

Kurt Warner more than once. I thought he might hold the starter job for a year or two with the Giants. In fact, he started out pretty good, then seemed to be afraid to let go of the ball. I then figured he was done. Then, he goes to the Cardinals and has a revival.

I thought Ron Dayne was going to be a star...

Derek Broen would be the next TE superstar.

Wrong:
Ron Dayne - i though since he did it for a big program
Trent Richardson - again, ALA so why not (still can't believe what a bust he was)
Ryan Leaf - I thought he was as good as Peyton
Gallery - actually did ok later as a G
Mandarich - workout steroid warrior
The Boz - I thought he'd be good

Rights:
Manzel - never a doubt
Barden - waste of a 3rd from Cal Poly (what division are they in?)
Leinert - surrounded by loads of talent, I could have completed a pass at USC (or two)
Brandon Weeden

In comment 13495714 djm said:

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Will break every nyg rushing record there is.

First thought I had as well.

When they drafted Winston I called to congratulate him for picking up JaMarcus Russel...

I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick

the word 'compromise' players like Mitch Petrus, who I though would make a decent sleeper guard, using the logic that 'we wont draft one early, as I would prefer, so lets find one later.' Kid was strong and stout...did very little.

Active Players? - Kennard (LB) who I thought would do very little to nothing (lazy on my part, I did not even look at the kids data, it was just a dumb comment I really made on JR). . That said, he has only flashed not been a solid contributor. Yet. but he may become one!

Big Misses? Ron Dayne, liked the idea of a battering ram to make the D stay close, figure that he would do. He had a few moments, but not worth the draft spot.

Hits with big RBs? Brandon Jacobs!

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I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick

I hate the Ravens to this day for that draft. And teams for passing on Lawrence Phillips. Ogden was ours for the taking, damn it. Much like I hate the Timberwolves for taking two freaking PGs and forcing the Warriors to take Steph Curry, one pick before the Knicks. Those two drafts will forever eat at my soul.

Reggie Bush - I thought he would be a much bigger star.

Coby Fleener - Actually, looking at his stats, he's been decent, but I thought he would be an all-pro playing with Luck.

OO - watched him at UCLA, figured he would be much better than what little he has shown.

Matt Flynn - I thought he would have been a starter somewhere at some point in his career.

Jamarcus Russell - Yes, I admit it, I thought he would be good, or at least not as bad as he was.

Drew Olsen - watched him at UCLA win a bunch of games all by himself. Figured he would at least catch on as a backup with a chance to play some if there were injuries. Surprised that he never caught on as a project/backup.

In comment 13495984 Les in TO said:

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I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick

I hate the Ravens to this day for that draft. And teams for passing on Lawrence Phillips. Ogden was ours for the taking, damn it. Much like I hate the Timberwolves for taking two freaking PGs and forcing the Warriors to take Steph Curry, one pick before the Knicks. Those two drafts will forever eat at my soul.

Not sure why my post randomly posted again, sorry guys

I thought he would be very good

I was absolutely ecstatic when we picked him in the 2nd round in '91.

I thought he was a perfect fit for our defense, and would develop into a Charles Haley style beast coming off the edge.

Yeah, no. A total of 1.5 sacks in 3 years in Blue...

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I was absolutely ecstatic when we picked him in the 2nd round in '91.

I remember thinking Alfred Williams got all the hype, but McGahee was the one that made that Colorado DL tick.

I thought he'd be big-time for us.

Nuff said.

But I remember saying Steph Curry was going to just be another Eddie House... I was a little off on that.

1. Ron Dayne... I thought he was going to be amazing and the best back we ever had.

2. Ramses Barden.... I really thought he was going to be a beast and the best receiver we had seen on the team.

Now i feel stupid

Joey Bosa - Thought this guy had bust written all over him and he now looks like a future all pro.

Jarvis Landry - Saw him as a productive try hard college guy who's physical limitations would cause him to wash out quickly in the NFL. I did not expect an athletic Pro Bowl caliber receiver who doubles as an elite return man.

On the Giants:
Justin Pugh - Was even more steamed when the Giants picked Pugh than when they picked Flowers. At least with Flowers I thought there was some upside to work with compared to a short armed athletically limited guy like Pugh. Now he's the anchor of the line at Guard, one of the team leaders, can play Tackle in a pinch, and looks anything but a reach especially compared to all the other guys picked over him.

Odell Beckham Jr. - Not really a player I thought would be a bust. I knew he was good but thought why draft a good undersized slot receiver when two studs who I saw as future All Pros, Zach Martin and Aaron Donald were there for the taking at positions that could create an immediate impact. It seemed redundant to double down on a smallish slot receiver when we already had Cruz filling that role. Was way off on our resident all world receiver with the goofy fro hawk.

Michael Jenkins I think was his name. Hoping Giants would get him but he went fairly early to ATL. Thought he was going to be really good.

And then he kind of sucked...

Also thought Mike Evans would be a bust. Wrong on both counts.

for the Giants, I thought Andre Williams was going to be very good.

Partly was "hope" because he's a local kid to me, partly because the Giants really needed a stud RB..but mostly because of his ridiculous numbers in College.

I, self admittedly, do not watch much college football at all. But the numbers just really popped out to me.

oh well!!

...I saw an injury-prone, prima-donna who would likely to cause far more headlines based on his behavior than his gameplay.

I still think he's an injury-prone jackass.

But Jesus, can that kid play. Best receiver I ever saw.

I wanted George Rogers SO bad! What LINEBACKER is worth a #1 OVERALL??? It was an ASSININE pick, and I let everyone know.

Since then, I've made a jackass out of myself on draft day many, many times.

If it were up to me, we'd have gotten Sean Taylor instead of Eli.

Be very, very grateful I'm not GM.

Thought he'd be a perennial all-star.

In comment 13496852 Mike in Long Beach said:

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Thought he'd be a perennial all-star.

I thought Hamonic was your whipping boy.

I used to think when I saw him run for Penn State that he did not just have an "eye for the hole" when he carried it; he had an eye for the end-zone. Hurt his knee in training camp and I don't think he ever was able to start a game for his less than two seasons career.

In comment 13496966 jsuds said:

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I used to think when I saw him run for Penn State that he did not just have an "eye for the hole" when he carried it; he had an eye for the end-zone. Hurt his knee in training camp and I don't think he ever was able to start a game for his less than two seasons career.

Yeah, it's impossible to say, but I feel like he would have validated your position on him if he didn't tear his knee apart before his first regular season started. That sucked.

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In comment 13495902 Sarcastic Sam said: Quote: would be a TV star. Whoops. To this day I wonder what goes through the mind of Tiki Barber every time he sees his nemesis Strahan with literally EVERYTHING he ever wanted - the ring, the TV career, the Hall of Fame spot, the respect ...

To be fair, Tiki peaked to early with his TV Career. Started off doing sports on the Today show, and everything went downhill from there.

In comment 13496555 LCtheINTMachine said:

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I thought he'd be big-time for us. Nuff said.

I guess breaking some NFL records isn't enough for you...

In comment 13496992 BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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In comment 13495917 FStubbs said: Quote: In comment 13495902 Sarcastic Sam said: Quote: would be a TV star. Whoops. To this day I wonder what goes through the mind of Tiki Barber every time he sees his nemesis Strahan with literally EVERYTHING he ever wanted - the ring, the TV career, the Hall of Fame spot, the respect ... To be fair, Tiki peaked to early with his TV Career. Started off doing sports on the Today show, and everything went downhill from there.

Tiki should have never left Fox, at least not as early as he did.

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In comment 13495984 Les in TO said: Quote: I thought he was going to prove the doubters wrong who said he didn't deserve to be the 5thoverall pick I hate the Ravens to this day for that draft. And teams for passing on Lawrence Phillips. Ogden was ours for the taking, damn it. Much like I hate the Timberwolves for taking two freaking PGs and forcing the Warriors to take Steph Curry, one pick before the Knicks. Those two drafts will forever eat at my soul.

I was at that NBA draft and it was one of the more depressing fan experiences of my life. I was hoping against hope the Warriors would pass on Steph.

Just a reminder.

I thought Jacquian Williams was going to be Armstead 2.0

had some terrific talent. OBJ probably doesnt go #1 overall either. That might goto Derek Carr.

Thought he was going to be like earl cambell

predicted to be a bust by so many people? His motor and relentless were never in doubt, and he had above average athleticism and skills to match.

Kelvin Beachum,
Anthony Davis and
Reggie Nelson...

In comment 13495799 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 13495790 chopperhatch said: Quote: In comment 13495753 David in LA said: Quote: William Joseph: I figured pretty much anyone on that U of Miami program were locks to be quality players. Joseph turned out to be a huge disappointment. Tim Carter: Blazing speed, chiseled physique. This guy had everything you could ask for in WR. He was also cousins with Doc Gooden and Gary Sheffield, so I figured with good genetics he had a shot. Unfortunately, it never quite panned out. Brian Alford: One of my best friends is a huge Purdue fan, so he'd constantly be in my ear about how awesome he was. He is another one of those track stars that weren't really football players. Tyrone Wheatley: I don't think I was ever more excited for a pick than Wheatley. Alford went to Penn State. You are thinking of Jay Alford, David said Brian Alford, who attended Purdue.

Omg, yes. My bad David. I had totally forgotten about that receiver.

was going to be the next Gayle Sayers.

In comment 13496841 x meadowlander said:

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I wanted George Rogers SO bad! What LINEBACKER is worth a #1 OVERALL??? It was an ASSININE pick, and I let everyone know. Since then, I've made a jackass out of myself on draft day many, many times. If it were up to me, we'd have gotten Sean Taylor instead of Eli. Be very, very grateful I'm not GM.

I wanted Sean Taylor too and look at the player he turned out to be, who knew some ass hole would murder him...