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B in ALB : 6/11/2017 5:51 pm
Huge game tonight at Azteca in Mexico City. I expect the filthy el tri to try to manhandle Pulicic tonight and play dirty as usual. Flopping, flipping, floundering all over the field. The fans will undoubtedly be acting like dumpster trash and shouting their puto chant like the mouthbreathers they are. I'm also expecting a loss unfortunately. A tie/result would be unreal. Mexico has been playing really really well.
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After all this  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 9:16 pm : link
Yedlin gets a yellow?

This is a fucking joke.
But..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2017 9:16 pm : link
then Yedlin gets a yellow.

Getting out of hand.
RE: RE: RE: This ref just allowed the Mexican player  
Gmen1982 : 6/11/2017 9:16 pm : link
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To knock yedlin to the ground when yedlin had possession.

The fix is in folks.

From the obvious red card to this. And here we are. Not unexpected. Soccer being crooked again.



The elbows were brutal. That play with yedlin is part of the game. You will seldom see that foul called at any level.



He was gaining possession of the ball and got shouldered causing a mistake. It's a foul anywhere in the world except Mexico.


Neither had possession yet. Really nothing compared to the elbows.
The  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 9:16 pm : link
elbow on Wood reminded me of the foul by Mexico against Cobi Jones during the 2002 World Cup. And that was a straight red.

Yellow on Yedlin. I have no problem with that, but there is nothing on Mexico. Not even one yellow.
lol  
Jim in Scranton : 6/11/2017 9:17 pm : link
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Decent half. Mexico's goal should not have happened.  
Gmen1982 : 6/11/2017 9:20 pm : link
Gotta give Beasley help in the middle. Most defenders will be beat one on one there. Where was the help?
RE: After all this  
GMenLTS : 6/11/2017 9:20 pm : link
In comment 13496412 B in ALB said:
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Yedlin gets a yellow?

This is a fucking joke.


That was pathetic given the rest of the half
Not  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 9:22 pm : link
bad. We have some speed on the wings. But we blew some chances, and had too many defensive lapses. I'd like to see better midfield play, but that's tough to ask for against Mexico. I assume we'll bring on Dempsey as a substitute some time in the second half.

The real story of course is the referring. Mexico should have had at least one red, and a few other yellow cards.
.  
Go Terps : 6/11/2017 9:22 pm : link
Compare playing with a new format with Arena to under Klinsmann. Night and day.

Bradley and Acosta are doing great work alternating pressing the Mexican defenders when they're in possession. It's making a difference.

This should be a dangerous team a year from now.
The shape, the responsibilities, the mission  
Joey from GlenCove : 6/11/2017 9:24 pm : link
what a fucking difference when you have a coach

I really don't even think this is close to our strongest lineup

BUT Man these concacaf games are an eye sore.
Also weird that wood missed that volley  
Joey from GlenCove : 6/11/2017 9:26 pm : link
and that lead to a counterattack goal
I just realized..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2017 9:26 pm : link
that Arena resembles a rough, puffy Tommy Hilfiger.
Our  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 9:38 pm : link
passing isn't crisp, resulting in too many turnovers.
I'm sorry but I don't get the Guzan  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 9:44 pm : link
in for Howard change. Not digging that at all.
Guzan is not a national level keeper  
Go Terps : 6/11/2017 9:44 pm : link
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RE: I'm sorry but I don't get the Guzan  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 9:45 pm : link
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in for Howard change. Not digging that at all.


Agreed. We're packed in so much on defense, that when we do get the ball, we have no one forward. It looks like another game, where we'll have to score on a set piece to win.
The US would..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2017 9:45 pm : link
undoubtably benefit vs. almost any other country if they called simulation more often, but they will never reduce it on a large scale when they allow guys to flop in the box without any repercussions.
Our  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 9:46 pm : link
guy gets taken down, and no call. Not even a foul.
this officiating is truly fascinating to watch  
GMenLTS : 6/11/2017 9:47 pm : link
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That's a third egregious and ugly foul by Salcedo  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 9:49 pm : link
Referee does nothing. Typical Mexico game in concacaf. Pathetic
Worst thing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2017 9:50 pm : link
is that we rarely embellish, so a foul on us is usually as egregious as it appears.
RE: Worst thing..  
GMenLTS : 6/11/2017 9:52 pm : link
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is that we rarely embellish, so a foul on us is usually as egregious as it appears.


We have to be one of the least flopping teams in the world and honestly it feels like we're punished for it somehow.
What is protcal for coaches to talk to refs during games?  
superspynyg : 6/11/2017 9:53 pm : link
Can the US protest this game if they lose due to bias refund?
RE: That's a third egregious and ugly foul by Salcedo  
Gmen1982 : 6/11/2017 9:53 pm : link
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Referee does nothing. Typical Mexico game in concacaf. Pathetic


It's really not as bad as the complaints here. We are getting fouls called and getting away with some. Yes there has been more for Mexico but it is not costing us the game.
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B in ALB : 6/11/2017 9:53 pm : link
In comment 13496448 GMenLTS said:
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is that we rarely embellish, so a foul on us is usually as egregious as it appears.



We have to be one of the least flopping teams in the world and honestly it feels like we're punished for it somehow.


Yup. Absolutely. The Japanese are similar.
RE: What is protcal for coaches to talk to refs during games?  
superspynyg : 6/11/2017 9:54 pm : link
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Can the US protest this game if they lose due to bias refund?


Reffing not refund
RE: RE: That's a third egregious and ugly foul by Salcedo  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 9:55 pm : link
In comment 13496450 Gmen1982 said:
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Referee does nothing. Typical Mexico game in concacaf. Pathetic



It's really not as bad as the complaints here. We are getting fouls called and getting away with some. Yes there has been more for Mexico but it is not costing us the game.


Not costing the game yet. But that's not really the point.

The point is that the referring is an epidemic when it comes to Mexico. It's completely absurd at this point.
Holy crap  
jestersdead : 6/11/2017 10:01 pm : link
Lucky break on that free kick.

It's time for the subs to come in and inject some energy for the last 20 mins
Damn that was a nice hit  
Gmen1982 : 6/11/2017 10:01 pm : link
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To be fair..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/11/2017 10:02 pm : link
reffing in FIFA has been corrupt. Reffing in Mexico has been corrupt. We're talking about an organization that will probably find a way to make Qatar competitive in 5 years, and it won't be from a talent standpoint.
Ahhhh Bradley!  
GMenLTS : 6/11/2017 10:03 pm : link
so close
This is awful to watch  
illmatic : 6/11/2017 10:14 pm : link
You just see Mexicans falling to the ground for 90 minutes. It's expected but still.
More  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 10:17 pm : link
often than not, we end up knocking the ball right to the Mexicans.

There was our chance.
UGHHHHHH  
GMenLTS : 6/11/2017 10:18 pm : link
sonofa
Mexico  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 10:18 pm : link
has had a lot of success playing the ball wide to our right.
The  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 10:20 pm : link
lack of midfield play means we have to rely on the long ball.
held on  
GMenLTS : 6/11/2017 10:23 pm : link
goddamn #10 had it
A  
AcidTest : 6/11/2017 10:23 pm : link
tie is about as good as we could have expected, especially given the horrendous referring. But the lack of midfield play is a real problem.
a point on the road at Azteca -  
Del Shofner : 6/11/2017 10:24 pm : link
works for me.
Fuck yeah  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 10:24 pm : link
Amazing what happens when your team is properly coached and has a clear tactical vision.
Wet Jenny Taft  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 10:27 pm : link
Yes please.
Are the Yellow cards  
section125 : 6/11/2017 10:30 pm : link
cleared after this game or do they keep them for ever? I know WC they are cleared in the semis(?)
Solid sports day today  
B in ALB : 6/11/2017 10:40 pm : link
Yankees cock clap Buck and the Orioles again.

And the Yanks get a well deserved result in El Dumpsterfire Stadium.
Gutsy effort  
Kyle in NY : 6/11/2017 11:14 pm : link
Nice result, really excited for how this team might look a year from now.

No more Guzan though please.
Gotta give Bruce Arena a shitload of credit.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/11/2017 11:24 pm : link
I was skeptical about the lineup/alignment before the game, but the players executed the plan far better than they would have 365 days ago. There were mistakes on the back end, but for the most part (outside of the goal), the mistakes were made on the outside. The midfielders stayed extremely active on both ends of the pitch most of the night.

Cameron was great in the second half.
Bruce  
Jon in NYC : 6/12/2017 12:08 am : link
came in with a plan, relayed it clearly to his players, and they executed.

Contrast that to the kind of shitshow JK ran. No plan, players out of position, no strategy to come up with points against a better opponent on the road.
Hard Not To Be Happy With 1 Point  
Jeffrey : 6/12/2017 8:15 am : link
The lineup we started was workmanlike but not as talented as the Mexicans. I think Arena deserves kudos for adapting the game-plan to the players he chose to put on the field. Best I have seen Bradley play in some time. Also like his pairing with Acosta last night. Cameron played very well too, particularly in the second half. Ream was steady, as was Gonzales.

Considering the pack it in strategy it was a good showing for the defense. One quibble, Ariola is good moving forward, but is not a good defensive pairing with Yedlin and the two could not control their side of the field. Mexico was able to move the ball wide at will and missed on several crosses from that point.

Beasley is purely stopgap and would have preferred Johnson over there, but I assume that Arena wanted a veteran on the field to help the younger kids. Not as bothered by Guzan as others. Really want Pulisic and Nagbe to continue to play together. Like the effort of Woods as well. With time this group will develop chemistry up top.
We really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/12/2017 8:31 am : link
need to find a replacement for Beasley because he's not going to hold up against stiffer competition and he'll be a year older. I'm also hoping we can get one more year out of Howard.

Guzan seems like one of those guys who is adequate, but never really carries the team. I've seen epic performances from Howard and good performances from Guzan, and in the World Cup, absent a dominant team, you'll need at least one epic performance.
Thank God  
Mr. Bungle : 6/12/2017 8:32 am : link
Klinsmann is gone.
Can anyone offer an opinion on why we're so tactically....  
Crispino : 6/12/2017 9:05 am : link
inferior to the top teams? The Mexicans, like most good teams, put on a display of ball movement against us. They play in control and seem to have as much possession as they like. We play dump and chase and turn the ball over after two or three touches. We always look like the inferior side against quality opposition. The women's team has reached elite levels. Why can't the men's team?
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