Stupid media drama. I had to explain to a couple of people that it was voluntary, that he's not the only guy to ever miss them. No big deal, really.
Yea I know a few tweets, blah blah, of course he wants more money, but the media makes it sound like he's holding out/missing games in the regular season by some of their headlines/wording.
Stop. You know that it won't stop. There are certain people that have their minds made up and will never see the light. OBJ is an easy one. Sometimes you can see the other side, but this one is as clear as day. If you don't see that OBJ is a generational talent and if you don't want him around long term, than you are clueless. Plain and simple. There is no reasonable argument to the contrary.
Reese not overspending on free agent OL/reaching in draft.
or
How awful our #4 CB might be while disregarding the elite talent in the secondary that most teams would kill for.
Should have traded up for O.J. Howard.
Should have traded up for Garrett Bolles.
Should have drafted Forrest Lamp, or Cam Robinson, or Reuben Foster.
Should not have drafted Davis Webb.
for any Giants fan to a. want their star player to attend team organized practices, and b. to be upset that the O-line that has been in shambles for over 5 seasons to still apparently be in shambles.
The nerve of some people, on a Giants message board no less. Fall in line, people!
There is a distinction between wanting OBJ at OTA's
and what we saw on bbi. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you. Multiple people wanting him traded, saying he's ahole, saying he's not a team player and a cancer. I would think 100% of Giants fans WANT him there, but to freak out like some did is ridiculous.
There's no downside to him going, and not much of one with him not going. The issue is that people turn something so minor into DEFCON 1 and start babbling about how he hurts the team. Which is asinine.
was anybody that suggested otherwise that OTA's were completely meaningless and worthless were shouted down by the same vocal mod that goes from thread to thread and looks for outrage.
not one poster bitched on this thread, yet the first 10 or so posts were bitching about posters bitching about OBJ, without anybody actually bitching about OBJ.
What I saw was a bunch of idiots taking a minor situation and turning that it's an anti-OBJ rally. Because he didn't show up for OTA's, he's a cancer and needs to be traded. You deserve to get shouted down if you suggest that. There is no grey area with him right now. He's a generational talent, he's young, he's healthy, we have a really good team and we should be competitive for a number of years. No grey area, OBJ needs to be signed in the next year or so.
But a discussion on BBI about a subject like this 10 years ago would have been 10 pages long with a bunch of people writing thoughtful, long, and drawn out posts backing their opinion up.
Now threads are rapid fire and usually don't last longer than one page.
Not to say their wasn't name calling, or nastiness or venom, but the posts no matter the side of the argument, were smarter and better stated.
"What will people bitch about now, oh probably the O-line...." As if the shitty state of the o-line for the past five years isn't worth bitching about, haha!
We've only been near dead last in rushing for a number of years, and can't pass protect, but much ado about nothing!
What were we on offense last year? 26th in the league? Nothing to see here!
Stop. You know that it won't stop. There are certain people that have their minds made up and will never see the light. OBJ is an easy one. Sometimes you can see the other side, but this one is as clear as day. If you don't see that OBJ is a generational talent and if you don't want him around long term, than you are clueless. Plain and simple. There is no reasonable argument to the contrary.
They were bad at rushing the ball last year, but the main reason was Jennings, IMO. THe run blocking was not all that bad last year and I believe it will be good this year.
team practice time allowed thanks to the ridiculous CBA I'm not sure how you can think OTA's arent important. Of course players are going to skip and say they dont need them. But we all see the poor quality of play well into the season. The TV ratings dipping. The league needs more team practices, not less.
To take the stance that OTA's dont matter considering how little the team actually practices together is off.
I am of the belief that OTA's are more important for certain players than others. I don't think they carry uniform significance for every player on the roster. But that's just my opinion.
It happens all the time. Every year there is talk about how it used to be. If anythign, bbi used to be more aggressive and personal. I think it's tamer now which is why there are smaller threads.
Anyways, I haven't had a strong, or very vocal opinion on this subject
the OL too Britt. Taking the trolls behind the woodshed.
Yes - it's a problem. The only "bitching" going on is the same handful of regulars trolling, not even looking to talk football. Thats the element that keeps civilized people away.
Certain people expressed displeasure with OBJ not being at OTA's and some people disagreed and gave their opinion. The ones that immediately wanted him gone and called him selfish, a cancer, a bad teammate, those guys were met with posters who went for the jugular and as they should. It's a stupid opionion.
He knows he will be paid by the Giants it a matter of when (camp,during season, or next off).
Josina Anderson's tweet - ( New Window )
Has some pretty crazy hair.
And if you ever saw it,
You'd be well-advised to stare.
All of the other Giants,
Working out at OTAs,
Don't care if he's a no-show.
Don't read Raanan anyways.
Then one sunny April day,
Working on his speed.
Snapped a pic with bust Manziel,
Giants season shot to hell!
Schefter says holdout coming.
Florio says same thing, too.
Canty says he's too distracting.
Terps says time for someone new.
Stupid media drama. I had to explain to a couple of people that it was voluntary, that he's not the only guy to ever miss them. No big deal, really.
Yea I know a few tweets, blah blah, of course he wants more money, but the media makes it sound like he's holding out/missing games in the regular season by some of their headlines/wording.
The same posters will quickly find something else to bitch about
Reese not overspending on free agent OL/reaching in draft.
or
How awful our #4 CB might be while disregarding the elite talent in the secondary that most teams would kill for.
we should ask ourselves this every week. he's that good.
Stop. You know that it won't stop. There are certain people that have their minds made up and will never see the light. OBJ is an easy one. Sometimes you can see the other side, but this one is as clear as day. If you don't see that OBJ is a generational talent and if you don't want him around long term, than you are clueless. Plain and simple. There is no reasonable argument to the contrary.
He didn't want to make a liar out of Kim Jones.
Reese not overspending on free agent OL/reaching in draft.
or
How awful our #4 CB might be while disregarding the elite talent in the secondary that most teams would kill for.
Should have traded up for O.J. Howard.
Should have traded up for Garrett Bolles.
Should have drafted Forrest Lamp, or Cam Robinson, or Reuben Foster.
Should not have drafted Davis Webb.
eli was great last year and nowhere near 40, so definitely a terrible pick
The UNLV Hoops Players That Are So Hot That Drake Comes To Watch Their Games! - ( New Window )
The nerve of some people, on a Giants message board no less. Fall in line, people!
Black or white. No grey, no in between, one extreme or the other.
It's kind of funny.
I disagree 1000%.
But a discussion on BBI about a subject like this 10 years ago would have been 10 pages long with a bunch of people writing thoughtful, long, and drawn out posts backing their opinion up.
Now threads are rapid fire and usually don't last longer than one page.
Not to say their wasn't name calling, or nastiness or venom, but the posts no matter the side of the argument, were smarter and better stated.
We've only been near dead last in rushing for a number of years, and can't pass protect, but much ado about nothing!
What were we on offense last year? 26th in the league? Nothing to see here!
And how long have you been here? March 2016?
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Stop. You know that it won't stop. There are certain people that have their minds made up and will never see the light. OBJ is an easy one. Sometimes you can see the other side, but this one is as clear as day. If you don't see that OBJ is a generational talent and if you don't want him around long term, than you are clueless. Plain and simple. There is no reasonable argument to the contrary.
Yeah, he's like the Giant's Carmelo
To take the stance that OTA's dont matter considering how little the team actually practices together is off.
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And how long have you been here? March 2016?
Britt, it's nice to meet you. I am formerly kmed, now Keith. I've been here for over 10 years.
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than it's always been.
And how long have you been here? March 2016?
Britt, it's nice to meet you. I am formerly kmed, now Keith. I've been here for over 10 years.
what's up KMED! Hope all is well.
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than it's always been.
And how long have you been here? March 2016?
Britt, it's nice to meet you. I am formerly kmed, now Keith. I've been here for over 10 years.
what's up KMED! Hope all is well.
Whats up my man! I should have formerly introduced myself to avoid confusion.
I find it hard to believe you don't believe there's not difference in discourse between then and now.
I disagree, but it's not worth having the conversation, I have no interest in talking up how great BBI was then or how shallow it's become now.
Everything I've been stating has been from just observing.
Yes - it's a problem. The only "bitching" going on is the same handful of regulars trolling, not even looking to talk football. Thats the element that keeps civilized people away.
NYG haven't had a superstar like this since LT. Sure..Eli is a HOFer, but he's as bland as you get.
OBJ is a superstar on/off the field.
Imagine if there was the internet while LT was in his prime?