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I'd like to see him sign with the Rangers. Failing that, Im more worried about him signing with a team that is already competitive in the East w/o him. Doesnt he solve a lot of problems in Montreal?

Also some concern he goes to a team like the Oilers and is unstoppable on their 2nd line. How quickly does Matthews mature into a superstar? Soon enough for him and JT to be a slightly lesser Malkin and Crosby?

Until the Islanders get their shit together, they're not my fear.

He walked back saying it was definitively Kulemin and changed it to:

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The player designated for selection is still unknown, though it likely would be an Islander with a decent-sized cap hit to help the team clear space. Goaltender Jaroslav Halak ($4.5 million), forward Nikolay Kulemin ($4.187 million) and defenseman Thomas Hickey ($2.2 million) are three of the larger salaries among the team�s unprotected players.

You may resume breathing again.

Barely covers the team and he writes a story finally and hes now writing up his 3rd revison. Guy is the worst

Again, nothing fundamentally radical in the newest update. Confirms that the Isles 1st rounder is going to VGK in addition to a designated player on the unprotected list, and now reports it is a "strong possibility" that Grabovski is being traded as well. So that'll mean Grabbo's $5M plus whatever current roster player's salary coming off the books.

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Update: #Isles likely trading Mikhail Grabovski to Vegas along with first-round pick in expansion deal, sources say:

So if the Isles have $4 mill right now to spend and then somehow clear $9 to la vegas, they are at $13 million under cap. Im sure you save money if you trade hamonic/strome and something for galchenyuk and probably break even in a trade for Duch. So if thats the case, do they have enough to get involved with Shattenkirk?

per staple update.

On Isles is a gamechanger. Trade hammer, lose hickey and go 55,2, 6, 50, 44 and shattenkirk. Add Duchene or galenchyuk and cooking with peanut oil.

In comment 13504387 Fish said:

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On Isles is a gamechanger. Trade hammer, lose hickey and go 55,2, 6, 50, 44 and shattenkirk. Add Duchene or galenchyuk and cooking with peanut oil.

What would you imagine the trades would be for Duchene or Galchenyuk (trying to imagine what your roster would look like)

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On Isles is a gamechanger. Trade hammer, lose hickey and go 55,2, 6, 50, 44 and shattenkirk. Add Duchene or galenchyuk and cooking with peanut oil.

Except Shattenkirk wants to go to the Rangers, not the Islanders (and understandably so).


But even if he just wanted to come home, the Devils can outbid the both of us. They can essentially give Shattenkirk a blank check.

Its Duchene I thinks he becomes L2 center, galenchuk or eberle with JT and Anders.

27,91,14
12, 9, 66
29, 13, 72
??, 53, 15


55, 2
44, 22
50, 6


Something like that. But I'm not good at shit like this. Pganut can clean it up for me in editing room.

Hamonic and Strome+ are main pieces in a trade for either of the C's. If kulemin and grabovski are gone then thats 13 mill to start with. If that deal gets Galchenyuk we could save 2-3 mill more or break even with an extension. Question is, what to do with De Haan? Trade him to open up a spot to make a run at Smith or Shattenkirk? Give him a raise and sign an Oshie and not get 1 of the D?

I dont wanna get too excited because I wont believe Garth does anything positive until I see it.

I'm not overwhelmed by Shattenkirk. I think Pulock can produce reasonably well early, and become a Shattenkirk plus (better defender) as he continues his growth. Shattenkirk also vanished on a Presidents Cup team that should have performed better when it counted. I'm not real interested in spending the 6-6.5M/yr (there won't be a hometown discount), so I'm happy to let the Rangers again chase the shiny. Unless it's a short term deal, it will likely be a regrettable contract later.

Rumor says that Kovalchuk has decided to move back to the U.S. He is hoping for NY but is willing to go elsewhere. The Devils will hopefully get an early 2018 draft pick for him.

I see Ledecky trying to sell 15% of islanders and no takers so far. What's the point of this coming out or is it fake?

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I see Ledecky trying to sell 15% of islanders and no takers so far. What's the point of this coming out or is it fake?

It is Wang selling his remaining 15% not Ledecky

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In comment 13504510 Fish said: Quote: I see Ledecky trying to sell 15% of islanders and no takers so far. What's the point of this coming out or is it fake? It is Wang selling his remaining 15% not Ledecky

awww... we will miss you Donger!!

Thanks for..ummm.. Garth Snow?

How did that boardroom style organization work out for you!?

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In comment 13504513 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 13504510 Fish said: Quote: I see Ledecky trying to sell 15% of islanders and no takers so far. What's the point of this coming out or is it fake? It is Wang selling his remaining 15% not Ledecky awww... we will miss you Donger!! Thanks for..ummm.. Garth Snow? How did that boardroom style organization work out for you!?

And let's not forget the forward thinking hockey mind suggesting a sumo wrestler would make a good goalie by simply parking him in the net.

Wang is such a piece of trash.

I'm kind of a get-off-my-lawn-er about uniforms.

I like simple designs and consistency. Canadiens whites probably the best uniform in sports, but I like all original 6 hockey unis. Especially the Maple Leafs who I hate and the Rangers (just kind of patriotic) who I'm mostly indifferent about.

Not the biggest thing to get worked up about, and I'm not, just think this will be terrible.

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John Shannon‏Verified account @JSportsnet 43s43 seconds ago Sweater. Jerseys. Uniforms. Call them what you want. NHL and adidas unveil the new ones today!

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In comment 13504513 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 13504510 Fish said: Quote: I see Ledecky trying to sell 15% of islanders and no takers so far. What's the point of this coming out or is it fake? It is Wang selling his remaining 15% not Ledecky awww... we will miss you Donger!! Thanks for..ummm.. Garth Snow? How did that boardroom style organization work out for you!?

Or those contracts to Yashin and DiPietro or all those machinations to get to cap floor while paying less

In comment 13504571 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 13504553 feelflows said: Quote: In comment 13504513 Mike in NY said: Quote: In comment 13504510 Fish said: Quote: I see Ledecky trying to sell 15% of islanders and no takers so far. What's the point of this coming out or is it fake? It is Wang selling his remaining 15% not Ledecky awww... we will miss you Donger!! Thanks for..ummm.. Garth Snow? How did that boardroom style organization work out for you!? Or those contracts to Yashin and DiPietro or all those machinations to get to cap floor while paying less

I'm not going to lie.. I fully supported the Yashin and Peca trades. It got me excited..got me to believe that the new ownership was "all in".

NOBODY understood the term of the DiPietro contract. I mean.. if they would've offered him 5 years, I'd be into it. Idiots.

He had good intentions.. he was just a moron. Better suited for cheating the corporate world.

the 15% is for funding of a new arena.

so there's that.

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I disagree a bit, I think a top four of Skjei, McDonagh, Shattenkirk, Smith is good enough to win it all. I wouldn't say a favorite, but a bit behind PIT/WAS.

But Rangers don't have an all star skater (aside from McD) let alone the 3-4 Pit has.

"Hey sharks. My name is John Ledecky and this is my partner Scott, and we're seeking $75 million dollars for a 15% stake in our company. As you know, sharks are the most powerful creature in the sea. But there's one thing out there that can stop a shark in its path... an Islander."

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I think the Rangers with that top four is good enough to win it all. That was my point. It's not up there with Nashville or anything. I don't think the gap between these teams is that large. Ottawa was a goal away from a SCF trip and the Rangers (IMV) could have easily beaten the Senators just with better deployment.

Sens were lucky.
They were nearly down 2-0 to Boston, the Rangers blew two games against Ottawa.
If not for Anderson they aren't close.

Now saying Kulemin isnt the player being traded so I guess we can stop dreaming about 2 big pickups unless its Halak or we trade bothr de haan and hamonic

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Now saying Kulemin isnt the player being traded so I guess we can stop dreaming about 2 big pickups unless its Halak or we trade bothr de haan and hamonic

If Hamonic and CdH went out to Montreal for Galchenyuk, and Grabbo went to Vegas as part of the expansion draft, Isles would have more than enough cap room to sign Shatty and extend Tavares.

Isles D would be a mix of youngsters and vets and Shatty would help turn the power play around. With Shatty, Tavares, Ho-Sang, Pulock, etc., it'd have an opportunity to be lethal IMO.

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Isles D would be a mix of youngsters and vets and Shatty would help turn the power play around. With Shatty, Tavares, Ho-Sang, Pulock, etc., it'd have an opportunity to be lethal IMO.

Park Lee in front of the net on that PP1 and I'd be happy

In comment 13504637 Metnut said:

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In comment 13504627 KWhite2250 said: Quote: Now saying Kulemin isnt the player being traded so I guess we can stop dreaming about 2 big pickups unless its Halak or we trade bothr de haan and hamonic If Hamonic and CdH went out to Montreal for Galchenyuk, and Grabbo went to Vegas as part of the expansion draft, Isles would have more than enough cap room to sign Shatty and extend Tavares. Isles D would be a mix of youngsters and vets and Shatty would help turn the power play around. With Shatty, Tavares, Ho-Sang, Pulock, etc., it'd have an opportunity to be lethal IMO.

the D already has a mix of vets and youngsters.

I don't like the idea of losing Hamonic AND de haan.

As if those sad fucks will ever be any good.

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As if those sad fucks will ever be any good.

I'm just waiting for a sliver of Rangers news so we can take this thread back...

we are hoping one day our team can be "good enough for the playoffs"..

I'm excited to have a day when I can say, as an Islanders fan, "yah, but MY team makes the playoffs every year!!"

so impressive to reach that peak.

While your fan base is very small, you guys are passionate. I'll give you that.


Plus, the Fishsticks have had our number for the last few years

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As if those sad fucks will ever be any good.

To be fair, they missed the playoffs by 1 point last year after making the final 8 the year before. They had the same amount of points as Nashville, who made the Final. Also, their PPG pace under Doug Weight was close to the top of the league (I think WSH was still better).

I think the upcoming 5 year outlook for NYI (assuming Tavares stays) is pretty exciting.

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Renaud Lavoie‏ @renlavoietva He confirmed that some of the picks that are going to be announced are going to be traded the next day.

"He" is McPhee

living in St. Louis, it's hard to follow the Rangers day to day...my question is this - what is Nick Holden doing on the protected list? isn't he JAG?

In comment 13505254 Mike in St. Louis said:

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living in St. Louis, it's hard to follow the Rangers day to day...my question is this - what is Nick Holden doing on the protected list? isn't he JAG?

They just Holden on to him.

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living in St. Louis, it's hard to follow the Rangers day to day...my question is this - what is Nick Holden doing on the protected list? isn't he JAG?

There are 3 slots to protect d-men, and no one else to protect with it. If they'd been able to make a trade in time (or sign Smith), they'd have left Holden unprotected, but since they had the slot open, might as well.

I thought it was a choice between more forwards or more dmen...

or 8 skaters total. Which would not have been better. Since they had to protect Staal, 8 skaters total would mean 6 forwards protected and somebody like Hayes would be exposed.

Holden is indeed JAG (unless you're Patrick Roy), but he basically had to be protected



In other news, Zipay said that the Rangers do not have a side-deal with the Knights

Named as the winner of the NHL Foundation Player Award tonight.

Video of his work: here

Well deserved for one of best human beings in the game.

supposedly leaked
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Those hats...not even fit to take a dump in. Glad they left the Isles jersey alone. Some of the others...meh.

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Named as the winner of the NHL Foundation Player Award tonight. Video of his work: here Well deserved for one of best human beings in the game.

Congrats Hammer. Gonna be sad to see him go if the trade rumored goes down. Like you said, great human being!

still have my favorite jersey.

May have agreed to send Theodore to LV in exchange for LV agreeing to select Stoner and not Manson/Vatanen.

Smells a little fishy to me that they'd be more concerned with keeping Vat than Theodore. If it's specifically about unloading Stoner, that's an expensive price to wiggle free from 1 year of a deal.

Hawks in cap trouble and now it's revealed that Hossa has an allergy to his equipment and will likely never play again. I feel like if this is Patrick Kane Chicago finds a way to get him equipment that won't cause an allergic reaction.
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