This is the last day a team is able to ask a player with a NMC to waive that clause to allow the team to expose him to the expansion draft.
Teams must protect seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender; or eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender.
Any player with a no-movement clause in his contract at the time of the expansion draft must be protected unless he waives it. All first- and second-year professional players, and unsigned draft choices, are exempt from selection by Vegas and do not have to be protected.
Vegas must select one player from each team to fill a roster of at least 14 forwards, nine defensemen and three goalies, with a minimum of 20 players under contract for the 2017-18 season. Expansion draft rules - (
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My understanding, as part of Ducks/Knights expected trade, is Vatanen will end up in Vegas. Other parameters to deal, but that's main part.
Mighty interested to see what deal Anaheim has cut with Vegas if they're standing pat rn
Yep. Pretty disappointing.
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Roster freeze is now on and NYR did not make a deal before 3 p.m. ET deadline. Not to say they won't when freeze lifts Thursday 8 a.m ET.
Im pretty curious to see if we made a deal. Raanta is worth a #2 plus to LVK, so that has to be the baseline.
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Rangers have nothing in place with Vegas. Unclear whether McPhee prefers Raanta or one of the forwards, NYR seem resigned to losing player.
Not happy about losing a valuable player like Lindberg, Fast, Raanta or Grabner for nothing. Would rather lose a second rounder next year.
Montreal and the Islanders tell me they're done for the day. Potentially, two big players next week.
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NHL teams can resume trading tomorrow morning at 10 ET only if their trading partner is VGK. Otherwise, no deals/signing until Thurs 8 am ET.
Rangers have nothing in place with Vegas. Unclear whether McPhee prefers Raanta or one of the forwards, NYR seem resigned to losing player.
Not happy about losing a valuable player like Lindberg, Fast, Raanta or Grabner for nothing. Would rather lose a second rounder next year.
1) Then you're losing a #2 for "nothing" (it's not really nothing -- it's the rules).
2) We might rather lose a #2 in 2018 than the players we had to expose... but maybe that wasnt enough for LVK for the same reason.
3) We can still deal with LVK. Our guy isnt gone til he's gone.
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Here are the percentages that a pick is a regular NHLer if one wants to do math: 1-5 96% 6-10 84% 11-15 60% 16-20 64% 21-25 46% 26-30 42%
were other expansions like this? I really don't remember.
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Intriguing trade for the Devils. Former 1st rounder who has two way potential. The Devils are in dire need of defensive help and hopefully he works out like when they gave up a 2nd round pick for Palmieri.
were other expansions like this? I really don't remember.
Mike Richter was technically a Nashville Predator after their expansion draft, so yeah they've always been a little weird even if the rules are a bit different this time.
Joking aside, I actually don't see a logical fit in that deal. I seriously can't imagine OEL coming back and not much else intrigues me from Arizona that would make the Rangers better.
I don't agree. The Coyotes have many young promising players. I would love to have one or more of Dvorak, Domi, Chychrun, Rieder, Perlini, DeAngelo, Keller.
They also have the 7th overall pick. If they want Stepan, a deal can be worked out.
Can make all the arguments you like about cost/benefit of losing a player versus a draft pick but we only have two defensemen worth protecting now (one actually, but staal must be too)
It strikes me as lazy and somewhat incompetent. Yes trading for a third D player wouldn't take all 4 of our players off the board, but perhaps it would have enabled us to protect the best 1-2 of that bunch.
If the isles give up a 1st and still lose CdH I'll lose my shit.
Vegas will get a really nice young RHD in Sami Vatanen or Josh Manson
The one I hope they don't take is Charles Hudon, he was a highly regarded prospect (even though he was a 5th round pick) 50+ pts per year in the AHL past three years and he's still just 22.
Perfect candidate for LV.
I would not expect MTL to have to make a deal to protect any of them.
I'd pick him if I were LV just for the name if he's planning to play, though FL also has Marchessault and Reilly Smith available.
I'd pick him if I were LV just for the name if he's planning to play, though FL also has Marchessault and Reilly Smith available.
Certainly would put butts in seats. I don't know if they can pass on Marchessault given the season he just had, but Jagr would definitely draw fans to games.
But I have no idea what is going on with side deals.
At this rate, with the amount of rumors regarding teams giving LV picks to stay away from unprotected players, McPhee will have the entire draft to himself.
if this does happen MTL has zero NHL caliber top 2 centers on the roster. Plekanec was really 3rd line C at this point, and Danault IMO is a 3rd/4th liner too. Drouin could be playing center.
Right but if the Knights sign Jagr, they wouldn't be able to take Marchessault
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Joking aside, I actually don't see a logical fit in that deal. I seriously can't imagine OEL coming back and not much else intrigues me from Arizona that would make the Rangers better.
I don't agree. The Coyotes have many young promising players. I would love to have one or more of Dvorak, Domi, Chychrun, Rieder, Perlini, DeAngelo, Keller.
They also have the 7th overall pick. If they want Stepan, a deal can be worked out.
I don't think a lot of those guys are appealing for the Rangers in a Stepan deal. I'd be fine with trading for another younger center who has already proven he can put up points at (at least) a second line rate with more upside or a top pair D. I think trading Stepan for a guy who is mostly potential would be a bit asinine given where the Rangers are. The 7th overall pick isn't interesting to me in a deal for Stepan.
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Right but if the Knights sign Jagr, they wouldn't be able to take Marchessault
If they wanted Jagr, why not just wait until January 1st?
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Right but if the Knights sign Jagr, they wouldn't be able to take Marchessault
If they wanted Jagr, why not just wait until January 1st?
Because other teams would be able to bid for him and bid at a somewhat high price too. Vegas, if they so choose, could sign Jagr in the coming days without any competition, but then they would give up the opportunity to draft Marchessault.
We could still
Some interesting names by team.
After looking through the names though, holy shit I think LV is going to be historically bad this year no matter what they do.
they have to take 30, NHL roster is 23 I believe.
what happens to the other 7?
That's my thinking. As it stands now, their defense will be very good (and young) and their Goalies should be set as well. MAF, Raanta, Mrazek...
Have heard the NHL salary cap ceiling will be set at $75M; floor at $55.4M.
they have to take 30, NHL roster is 23 I believe.
what happens to the other 7?
Trades, AHL, or take UFA