I have nothing but respect and admiration for Girardi. That dude was one of the toughest guys to ever put on a Rangers uniform. He was an iron man for a very long time and a few years back, the Staal-Girardi pairing was arguably the best pairing in the Eastern Conference.
Not bad for an undrafted free agent. He's a true warrior and was a great Ranger.
even if the Rangers had to eat a little of that cap hit.
Oh well... Stand up guy and an absolute warrior out there... It's a shame that contract and a coach that misused him caused so much hate to fly at him these past few years.
Sidenote... What does it say about AV that the Rangers are buying out a guy that was part of a top pairing through this season and playoffs? Guy is clueless...
while AV rode DG so hard. Minutes were down this year but I think that was health related. (also, you plausibly had to do this now so that you have the option to cut Staal next summer).
Gorts also took the Glass toy away from AV, and only gave it back when rosters expanded, at which point AV sat in the corner and played with it again.
Im not a fire AV guy, but there are usage issues that are hard to understand, and it appears that the GM agrees.
We'll have around 15 million or so in cap space. More than enough for Smith, signing Zibanejad to a longterm deal and...yes, your wet dream, Kevin Shattenkirk.
RE: The residual cap hits are going to be annoying
I'm torn on Shatty.. it feels very Sather-esque. I feel like it's going to be an investment that we don't get a great return on... but maybe I'm wrong.
I'm torn on Shatty.. it feels very Sather-esque. I feel like it's going to be an investment that we don't get a great return on... but maybe I'm wrong.
Seems inevitable that he'll wind up here.
FullTilt Rangers Guy @NYR_FullTilt
Buyout of Girardi solidifies Shattenkirk will be signed this summer.
And very few left it on the ice like Girardi. He aged about as well as he could for his physical style of play. Can't retire #5, of course, but he'd be in my Ring of Honor somewhere in the hallowed halls of MSG.
RE: The residual cap hits are going to be annoying
2.6, 3.6, 3.6, then 1.1 * 3. So only a 20% savings -- which after paying someone minimum wage for 3 years largely evaporates. But a 40% savings in years 1-3; this is a win-now move.
I'm torn on Shatty.. it feels very Sather-esque. I feel like it's going to be an investment that we don't get a great return on... but maybe I'm wrong.
I'm torn on Shatty.. it feels very Sather-esque. I feel like it's going to be an investment that we don't get a great return on... but maybe I'm wrong.
Seems inevitable that he'll wind up here.
Is AV going to play him as a #2 guy or will he get the Yandle treatment? That's a big concern for me.
I don't care about years 4-7 or whatever of his deal if they sign him.
I'm also upset they're letting Clendening go. I don't like the way this franchises analyzes/uses dmen.
Rangers now have an open D spot to protect someone
Spitballing... Miller/Hayes + Raanta for Trouba, protect Lindberg. Trade Grabner for someone's ELC player, and tell LV that you'll give them a #3 to avoid Fast and if they refuse that you'll trade him to a team that can protect him.
RE: Rangers now have an open D spot to protect someone
Spitballing... Miller/Hayes + Raanta for Trouba, protect Lindberg. Trade Grabner for someone's ELC player, and tell LV that you'll give them a #3 to avoid Fast and if they refuse that you'll trade him to a team that can protect him.
My best guess is they re-sign Smith and protect him
Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR centre Derek Stepan's name is fairly prominent in trade chatter. Stepan's contract has four more years with AAV of $6M.
Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Make that $6.5M AAV, not $6M. Haste makes waste, as my mother used to tell me.
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Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
Worth noting, Stepan has full NTC (for next two seasons) that kicks in on July 1. No NTC until then. Final 2 yrs of deal is modified NTC.
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Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR centre Derek Stepan's name is fairly prominent in trade chatter. Stepan's contract has four more years with AAV of $6M.
As I expected. I mean they must have real faith that Hayes can be a second-pair guy. They'd be banking on Zibanejad taking over 1C duties. Lindberg, if he returns, can definitely be a 3C.
Despite the stupid talk that Stepan would be exposed, he still has a lot of value. Problem is that he has a NTC kicking in soon.
In a lot of ways this is the end of an era. Longest tenured Ranger skater. Gave this franchise a lot. And he had a nice rejuvenation in the playoffs this season, certainly was better than Staal.
Wish nothing but the best for the guy. From an undrafted FA to this, he gave us a lot.
RE: I imagine they're talking to Minny about Stepan
Trouba, probably with NYR kicking in something. If it is Raanta, I think something else could come back from WIN.
Anak: Why would they resign Smith before the XD, just to protect him? It's fine to do if they arent trading for a D and dont want to protect Holden. But otherwise, it's a waste.
Trouba, probably with NYR kicking in something. If it is Raanta, I think something else could come back from WIN.
Anak: Why would they resign Smith before the XD, just to protect him? It's fine to do if they arent trading for a D and dont want to protect Holden. But otherwise, it's a waste.
I think there's a fear that he would get more from another team, even Vegas
RE: I imagine they're talking to Minny about Stepan
It's a little sad that his contract and usage issues will end up coloring our view of him.
My condolences to Seth.
oh come on everyone here should appreciate the guy way more than the piece of garbage hes been treated as by fans and media alike. the New York Rangers have tons of tradition and that includes scapegoating even when its a player like this one. Today is a joyous day. 2.75 mil to go wild with eh?
RE: RE: I imagine they're talking to Minny about Stepan
remarkably asinine and typical to hear. Ive been away for personal reasons....this will be a glorious offseason. They should buy out everyone and take down Leetch and Graves numbers. Start fresh.
I'm concerned about dealing Stepan. I think he's sort of underrated. It's a high-risk move. I get the rationale for dealing him, but I think it can blow up in their faces.
+1
But as I was saying:
I have nothing but respect and admiration for Girardi. That dude was one of the toughest guys to ever put on a Rangers uniform. He was an iron man for a very long time and a few years back, the Staal-Girardi pairing was arguably the best pairing in the Eastern Conference.
Not bad for an undrafted free agent. He's a true warrior and was a great Ranger.
Thank you, Dan!
Oh well... Stand up guy and an absolute warrior out there... It's a shame that contract and a coach that misused him caused so much hate to fly at him these past few years.
Sidenote... What does it say about AV that the Rangers are buying out a guy that was part of a top pairing through this season and playoffs? Guy is clueless...
My condolences to Seth.
My condolences to Seth.
Haha. I'm gonna miss those posts.
It's cool, Seth. For now, we can whip on Staal...for now.
Staal might have been even worse last year so I'm still hoping we can unload him somehow.
G was a great Ranger. Sucks he broke down like he did, but when you play the game that way, it's going to be inevitable.
Wish him nothing but the best. Had to do this though. It's time to cut the anchors out of the blue line.
did he have a No Movement Clause?
does this now open up another player the Rangers can protect?
Gorts also took the Glass toy away from AV, and only gave it back when rosters expanded, at which point AV sat in the corner and played with it again.
Im not a fire AV guy, but there are usage issues that are hard to understand, and it appears that the GM agrees.
Seems inevitable that he'll wind up here.
2017-2018- 2.7
2018-2019 - 3.7
2019-2020 - 3.7
And then three years of 1.2
Seems inevitable that he'll wind up here.
FullTilt Rangers Guy @NYR_FullTilt
Buyout of Girardi solidifies Shattenkirk will be signed this summer.
Was going to be 5.5 * 3 years. Now it is:
2.6, 3.6, 3.6, then 1.1 * 3. So only a 20% savings -- which after paying someone minimum wage for 3 years largely evaporates. But a 40% savings in years 1-3; this is a win-now move.
Seems inevitable that he'll wind up here.
Let the Devils overpay for him
Seems inevitable that he'll wind up here.
Is AV going to play him as a #2 guy or will he get the Yandle treatment? That's a big concern for me.
I don't care about years 4-7 or whatever of his deal if they sign him.
I'm also upset they're letting Clendening go. I don't like the way this franchises analyzes/uses dmen.
My best guess is they re-sign Smith and protect him
NYR centre Derek Stepan's name is fairly prominent in trade chatter. Stepan's contract has four more years with AAV of $6M.
Make that $6.5M AAV, not $6M. Haste makes waste, as my mother used to tell me.
Worth noting, Stepan has full NTC (for next two seasons) that kicks in on July 1. No NTC until then. Final 2 yrs of deal is modified NTC.
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Bob McKenzie ✔ @TSNBobMcKenzie
NYR centre Derek Stepan's name is fairly prominent in trade chatter. Stepan's contract has four more years with AAV of $6M.
As I expected. I mean they must have real faith that Hayes can be a second-pair guy. They'd be banking on Zibanejad taking over 1C duties. Lindberg, if he returns, can definitely be a 3C.
Despite the stupid talk that Stepan would be exposed, he still has a lot of value. Problem is that he has a NTC kicking in soon.
In a lot of ways this is the end of an era. Longest tenured Ranger skater. Gave this franchise a lot. And he had a nice rejuvenation in the playoffs this season, certainly was better than Staal.
Wish nothing but the best for the guy. From an undrafted FA to this, he gave us a lot.
Trouba, probably with NYR kicking in something. If it is Raanta, I think something else could come back from WIN.
Anak: Why would they resign Smith before the XD, just to protect him? It's fine to do if they arent trading for a D and dont want to protect Holden. But otherwise, it's a waste.
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Who would be a reasonable return?
Trouba, probably with NYR kicking in something. If it is Raanta, I think something else could come back from WIN.
Anak: Why would they resign Smith before the XD, just to protect him? It's fine to do if they arent trading for a D and dont want to protect Holden. But otherwise, it's a waste.
I think there's a fear that he would get more from another team, even Vegas
I would want Dumba to be involved, but more would need to be included
Marc Staal...
Jordan Greenway is my spirit animal this offseason..
My condolences to Seth.
oh come on everyone here should appreciate the guy way more than the piece of garbage hes been treated as by fans and media alike. the New York Rangers have tons of tradition and that includes scapegoating even when its a player like this one. Today is a joyous day. 2.75 mil to go wild with eh?
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Who would be a reasonable return?
Jordan Greenway is my spirit animal this offseason..
Jordan or Chad?
because Stepan is a WARRIOR.