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NFT: Day 3 - MLB Draft (Yankees)

mavric : 6/14/2017 2:01 pm
It goes fast today. The Yankees have already drafted 10 more players - 5 of them are RH pitchers.

11-332 Shawn Semple RHP R/R U New Orleans
12-362 Steven Sensley RF/1B L/L U Louisiana - Layfayette
13-392 Eric Wagaman 1B R/R Orange Coast College
14-422 Harold Cartijo RHP R/R Riverdale Baptist School HS
15-452 Aaron McGarity RHP R/R Virginia Tech
16-482 Ricky Surum SS R/R U Mt. Olive
17-512 Chris Hess 2B R/R U Rhode Island
18-542 Garrett Whitlock RHP R/R U Alabama Birmingham
19-572 Ron Marinaccio RHP R/RU Delaware
20-602 Ryan Lidge C S/R U Notre Dame
Drafting a Hokie?  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2017 2:07 pm : link
Poor form, Cashman. Their program sucks ass.
relevant.  
BigBlue2112 : 6/14/2017 2:08 pm : link
grrrrrrrrr....Jeff Weaver  
Greg from LI : 6/14/2017 2:08 pm : link
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Steven Sensley  
mavric : 6/14/2017 2:24 pm : link
seems like a good pickup. He's listed as a right fielder, but he's also played a lot of 1b. I wonder where the Yanks will groom him at. Hopefully, 1b.

Tampa Bay drafted him two years ago, but he blew them off because he wanted a lot more money than they offered. The Rays offered him 100k. He chose to transfer to Univ. of Louisiana instead.

He's a lefty who hits a lot of HRs, however, the first year he went from junior college to UL-Lafeyette he tried to pull everything and his avg plumetted. They worked on his swing to get him to hit to all fields instead of trying to pull every pitch and his avg rocketed and he even got more home runs. I don't believe he has any more school left so he probably has to sign. Regardless, he does sound like he has some potential if he's a hard worker.
Yanks 22nd Round pick  
Mike in NY : 6/14/2017 2:33 pm : link
is Junk
RE: Steven Sensley  
superspynyg : 6/14/2017 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13499995 mavric said:
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seems like a good pickup. He's listed as a right fielder, but he's also played a lot of 1b. I wonder where the Yanks will groom him at. Hopefully, 1b.

Tampa Bay drafted him two years ago, but he blew them off because he wanted a lot more money than they offered. The Rays offered him 100k. He chose to transfer to Univ. of Louisiana instead.

He's a lefty who hits a lot of HRs, however, the first year he went from junior college to UL-Lafeyette he tried to pull everything and his avg plumetted. They worked on his swing to get him to hit to all fields instead of trying to pull every pitch and his avg rocketed and he even got more home runs. I don't believe he has any more school left so he probably has to sign. Regardless, he does sound like he has some potential if he's a hard worker.


They should groom him for RF. Considering that Judge is just a stop gap until we can get some real talent in RF. I mean look...all Judge has done so far is hit for avg and power. His OBP is a meager .448. Not to mention his defense. So he made one or two great plays..If your going to be impressed by that than......

ME TOO!!!!!
RE: Yanks 22nd Round pick  
mavric : 6/14/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13500005 Mike in NY said:
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is Junk


I saw that - Janson Junk

Another RH pitcher. I hope he pitches better than his name. Of course, maybe he's the next Gaylord Perry and his name is perfectly fitting - LOL
Don't you need to pick signability guys for this  
Jim in Hoboken : 6/14/2017 2:46 pm : link
strategy to make sense?

Anyone else aside from Sauer?
Last two, Colby Davis and Pat DeMarco...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 3:03 pm : link
were signability guys. DeMarco is a Vandy commit, he won't break easily.
Riley Thompson, soph from Louisville...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 3:08 pm : link
will also be a tough sign.
Colby Davis  
mavric : 6/14/2017 3:11 pm : link
is a long drink of water - 6'8". Was recruited by junior colleges, D3 and D2 schools, finally committed to Yavapai College (doesn't sound like a big time baseball school).

Has a good fastball that needs harnessing. Long term project assuming he signs.
Yavapai is a noted JUCO for baseball...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 3:16 pm : link
Schilling, Ken Giles, Kirby Yates and Kole Calhoun all went there.
Seems like the overall strategy...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/14/2017 3:40 pm : link
take a bunch of below signees in the early going, then go after quality players with a low-likelihood of signing later on. This makes a lot of sense to me, especially given the current state of the farm. We don't need depth, we need stars, so fewer stars is still okay.

Am I looking at this wrong?
They just took Beck  
Bill L : 6/14/2017 3:54 pm : link
that's the toughest one yet.
We were bitching on another fan forum...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 3:59 pm : link
that we didn't take any tough signs. Then we took 5 of 7 as either DES's or preps.
They just took another one  
Bill L : 6/14/2017 4:07 pm : link
Likely they are going to play one against the other with the available funds. The Sox did that last year to hedge against Groome refusing to sign. This year, they took few signability guys and I think that they are opting to build depth rather than high ceiling players. Probably because Dombrowski went with a scorched earth strategy to bring players onto the big league club.
RE: They just took Beck  
Jay on the Island : 6/14/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13500131 Bill L said:
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that's the toughest one yet.

No chance he signs.
Bill  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 4:20 pm : link
They're in the process of rebuilding a farm that's starting to thin out because of all their deals. It's a good strategy for them. Decent draft so far.
From pick 23 on...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 7:14 pm : link
Yanks took a dozen or more tough or impossible signs. Some are almost certainly going to school and some we just have the $ to sign them away. Hopefully we have the $ for 2-3 of them.
36th rounder Andrew Abbott...  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 7:55 pm : link
Will honor his UVA commit. Selfishly happy about this.
Ryan Lidge already said he will sign  
superspynyg : 6/14/2017 8:50 pm : link
And fly to Tampa this week.
RE: Drafting a Hokie?  
Dunedin81 : 6/14/2017 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13499954 Greg from LI said:
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Poor form, Cashman. Their program sucks ass.


A Hokie and a Dukie. A dark day
RE: From pick 23 on...  
mavric : 6/15/2017 7:55 am : link
In comment 13500289 Dunedin81 said:
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Yanks took a dozen or more tough or impossible signs. Some are almost certainly going to school and some we just have the $ to sign them away. Hopefully we have the $ for 2-3 of them.


Pretty much my feelings exactly. If we can lure a couple of the stud picks to take a paycheck now and focus entirely on baseball without the headache of more classes, it's a big win. Won't get them all of course, but if we can get a couple of their John Hancocks, it's good. Fingers crossed
RE: RE: From pick 23 on...  
rich in DC : 6/15/2017 10:41 am : link
In comment 13500620 mavric said:
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In comment 13500289 Dunedin81 said:


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Yanks took a dozen or more tough or impossible signs. Some are almost certainly going to school and some we just have the $ to sign them away. Hopefully we have the $ for 2-3 of them.



Pretty much my feelings exactly. If we can lure a couple of the stud picks to take a paycheck now and focus entirely on baseball without the headache of more classes, it's a big win. Won't get them all of course, but if we can get a couple of their John Hancocks, it's good. Fingers crossed


Something to consider- many people are basing the "tough sign" designation on the fact that the player is a top 500 player with a college commitment.

Keep in mind that "top 500" is a HUGE number of players. If you are 200th on the list, you might expect to be drafted roughly in the top 7 rounds. If you are #150, you might expect to go in roughly the top 5 rounds.

Add in that under the new CBA, teams can offer a player drafted after the 10th round $150,000 before any of that money counts against a team's draft pool. Remember that there are "draft slots" for each pick in the top 10 rounds.

Add in that $150,000 is what a low 8th round pick would get. If you bumped the offer to $300,000- that's slot for a mid 5th round pick.

Keep in mind as well that teams can offer a full-ride for college without it counting against the pool. In some cases, that's over $160,000 in some cases.

Just hypothetically, let's say you are 32nd rounder SS Alika Williams, who is an Arizona State recruit. ASU just had its worst season EVER- and the head coach is under heavy fire there- and the program actually had to discipline and release some players this year allegedly over some internal conflicts.

If the Yanks think Williams is ready to turn pro, let's say they offer full college tuition (which can be used anywhere), and let's say $200,000- would that get Williams attention if he knows he is going into an unsteady and potentially controversial situation?

If you are 25th rounder Riley Thompson, who was a prospect coming out of HS- but had TJ surgery before the draft and fell- got redshirted in 2016 and buried in the pen in 2017, is it worth it to get 2 years of college tuition and say, $400,000 now, or do you gamble that you will be able to break into a tough Louisville rotation AND have a big year to get 1st round consideration- in what already looks like a loaded draft?
Louisville's rotation is tough...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2017 11:17 am : link
but they just graduated McKay and McClure. When Josh Rogers signed (for $500K), Funkhouser had decided to go back to school and it was clear that he, McKay and McClure were the three best pitchers on the team. Rogers likely would have lost his weekend starter job. This year they return one weekend starter, although Thompson is not an incumbent.
Sensley has signed  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2017 1:04 pm : link
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RE: Sensley has signed  
mavric : 6/15/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13500994 Dunedin81 said:
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Great news. A good hitting lefty that could someday take advantage of the short porch in right at the Stadium

He was drafted by the Twins right out of high school, then Tampa Bay drafted him the following year.

First team All-American and last season batting .314/.576/.417 with 11 home runs, 26 extra base hits, and 46 RBIs. Could develop into a solid major league player. Let's hope
I'm writing up my review...  
Dunedin81 : 6/15/2017 3:36 pm : link
I'll wait a couple days to post it which will allow the first wave of signings to be announced and also let me read some of the post-draft stuff with DO and others to get a sense of what they actually think of these guys, distinct from what BA and mlb.com think.
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Dunedin81 : 6/15/2017 5:28 pm : link
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DO interviewed...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2017 8:40 am : link
not much that hasn't been discussed but still worth a read.

Another note, and maybe something Dan can explain more. The pick values have condensed around the top picks thanks to the new CBA, so that the 7-10 picks are all slotted under $200K. The max non-pool value for the 11th round and later has bumped up to $125K though.
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Stephan signed...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2017 11:10 am : link
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3rd-rder Trevor Stephan signs w/@Yankees for $800k (slot 92 = $588,700). Arkansas RHP, VG FB: 90-95, running life & command. @MLBDraft
Thanks Dunedin  
mavric : 6/16/2017 11:21 am : link
for staying on top of this and sharing your info and research
Mauricio and Hess have apparently signed...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2017 3:50 pm : link
Mauricio is interesting enough.
PinstripedProspects have Canaan Smith  
TheMick7 : 6/16/2017 4:36 pm : link
signed as well
Also, Aaron McGarity RHP 15th round  
TheMick7 : 6/16/2017 4:38 pm : link
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RE: PinstripedProspects have Canaan Smith  
mavric : 6/16/2017 4:53 pm : link
In comment 13502272 TheMick7 said:
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signed as well


This kid has future left handed DH written all over him. With his big hips and legs, I don't see him playing outfield. Maybe some backup first base / emergency catcher. He's played catcher, but they don't seem to be grooming him for there (I could be wrong). What he is, is a big ass slugger with good plate discipline (hence the ton of walks). A few years from now he'll be like Big Papi (JK). But he does seem like a guy who would be a great DH for the stadium.
Smith is a HS QB who.was recruited to play SEC ball  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2017 6:28 pm : link
I'd wager a guess concerns about his athleticism are exaggerated.
RE: Smith is a HS QB who.was recruited to play SEC ball  
mavric : 6/16/2017 6:34 pm : link
In comment 13502367 Dunedin81 said:
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I'd wager a guess concerns about his athleticism are exaggerated.


I think he's athletic, he's just very big from the waist down which doesn't invite speed. And being an outfielder, it helps to have speed. If he can flip flop between OF and 1B and maybe spot catching while DH'ing - he'd be a valuable tool. Most players with multiple positions are infielders/outfielders and quite speedy.

Regardless, I like his left hand bat and his apparent hitting ability. How he fits in the lineup doesn't really matter to me. But the way the outfield is already crowded with Frazier, Rutherford, Fowler, Mateo, etc., all waiting their turn, it's hard to imagine. However, Smith has to go through the minor league system and it'll be awhile before he's ready for the big show. A lot can happen in the next 3 or 4 years
Glenn Otto 5th round RHP signed  
TheMick7 : 6/16/2017 7:18 pm : link
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I have no clue as to why  
Phil in LA : 6/16/2017 7:37 pm : link
anyone is against developing a young behemoth into a DH. Hall of Fame consideration? Seriously, teach him some first for interleague and the World Series and plug him in.
I just don't think he's a budding DH...  
Dunedin81 : 6/16/2017 7:52 pm : link
He's a star HS QB. He has an arm, he can run a little, DH at this point would be a waste.
PinstripeAlley has 13th round pick Eric Wagaman as signed  
TheMick7 : 6/17/2017 11:13 am : link
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Updated Signings (per Pinstripe Alley signing tracker)  
mavric : 6/17/2017 11:15 am : link
As of 6/16/17

Signed:

Canaan Smith (4th rd)
Eric Wagaman (13th rd)
Chris Hess (17th rd)
Bryan Blanton (21st rd)

Expected to sign:

Matt Sauer (2nd rd)

Will not sign:

Jordan Bulter (34th rd)
Steven Williams (35th rd)
Andrew Abbott (36th rd)
Tanner Burns (37th rd)
Update (per this board)  
mavric : 6/17/2017 11:19 am : link
Signed according to BBV members:

Trevor Stephan (3rd rd)
Steven Sensley (12th rd)
Aaron McGarity (15th rd)
Ron Marinaccio (19th rd)
And Glenn Otto (5th) & Alex Mauricio(27th)  
TheMick7 : 6/17/2017 11:22 am : link
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RE: And Glenn Otto (5th) & Alex Mauricio(27th)  
mavric : 6/17/2017 11:25 am : link
In comment 13502720 TheMick7 said:
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Point taken. I also think that I accidentally put in Ron Marinaccio by mistake instead of Alex Mauricio.

But I can't edit my previous posts or I'd make the change
Wagaman's is a familiar profile  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2017 12:32 pm : link
Big bat 1B. We have drafted a bunch of them, at present only Chris Gittens has built much value. But if he can harness the power with a respectable K rate he could emerge.
Marinaccio is likely to sign anyway...  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2017 12:33 pm : link
Mauricio threw 98 at one point, injury and/or fatigue has it low 90s now.
Pinstripes Plus interviewed Zurak and Whitmer...  
Dunedin81 : 6/17/2017 1:41 pm : link
And both said they signed.
Draft Money Tracker  
mavric : 6/17/2017 2:44 pm : link
Pinstriped Prospects has Harold Cartijo (14th round) signed  
TheMick7 : 6/18/2017 7:54 am : link
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11th rounder  
Dunedin81 : 6/19/2017 12:22 pm : link
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