I can't take credit for this. Saw this on a NYK fan site and then looked him up. Player's name is Deonte Burton. Very unusual size at 6'5" (in shoes as NBA players are measured), 260 lb and a 7' wingspan.
Pluses:
1 very mentally and physically tough (a trait NYK has desperately lacked)
2 multi-skilled (shooting, handle, passing, defending)
3 uses lefty-ness in Zach Randolph kind of way (you know he's going left, but he gets there any way with varied release points and funky interior moves)
Minus:
1 height/weight
2 not a great athlete by any stretch but not bad either
He will likely be there at 58.
When you say it would be dumb to buy out or stretch Melo, there needs to be context to evaluate i.e.
Door # 1 - keep him
Door # 2 - trade him (need to know what the return is)
Door # 3 - buy him out
Door # 4 - need to understand this relative to other options i.e. what can the decrease per the stretch be spent on via FA
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Dennis Smith will have the Timberwolves, Knicks, Mavericks, Hornets, Pistons and Heat attend his Pro Day, sources told Basketball Insiders.
Philly has enough peripheral assets to get that done. Luwawu, Korkmaz, Anderson, Covington, okafor. Would make sense for both teams. Getting monk and Mitchell/Ntilikina/Kennard would be a solid grab for philly.
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Dennis Smith will have the Timberwolves, Knicks, Mavericks, Hornets, Pistons and Heat attend his Pro Day, sources told Basketball Insiders.
makes you wonder if smith had some sort of injury whem he visited knicks
I dont even see a counterargument one could muster.
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU EXTEND THE PAIN OF MELO'S BUYOUT OVER 5 SEASONS? Do you need the money now? For what? A title run? The fact that an option exists doesnt make it worth considering. How about the fact that Melo might opt out?
Berman wrote about this in the post today. A whole article about using the stretch on Melo. Clearly because he was required to submit an article and had nothing to write about. Berman IMO is also the dumbest guy covering the Knicks. There is never a conception of long term planning in his pieces. Everything is a suggestion about how we can get marginally better in the short term.
Jokic orchestrated the #1 regular season offense this past year. Jamal Murray has the makings of a 20+ ppg scorer. Harris is a high end 3 and D player. If the other hernangomez is as good as billed they have a tremendous stretch 4. They're missing another stud defender but if they swing right on a high risk/reward pick like Giles or OG they're onto something. That's not even including the really solid vets they have in Chandler, Barton, Gallo, plumlee and Faried. And whatever mudiay is.
1 GSW
2 Hou
3 Utah if GH stays
4 SAS
5 Portland
6 LAC
7 Minny
8 Den
I don't think what OKC did last year is sustainable. One guy doing everything.
PG: Rubio (for Lee), Baker, Randle
SG: Monk (8), Evan Turner (for 15, 26)
SF: Justin Jackson (15), Shabazz Muhammed (if cheap contract, low risk), Kooz
PF: KP, DJ Wilson (26), Burton (44)
C: Hernangomez, KOQ, Noah
PG: Rubio (for Lee), Baker, Randle
SG: Monk (8), Evan Turner (for 15, 26)
SF: Justin Jackson (15), Shabazz Muhammed (if cheap contract, low risk), Kooz
PF: KP, DJ Wilson (26), Burton (44)
C: Hernangomez, KOQ, Noah
That lineup would win about 30 games and then you are stuck with a bunch of bloated contracts.
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yeah I'm dying to know the plan as well, but so many moving pieces given notion of Melo, Lee and/or KOQ being traded, whomever we get at 8, and whether he is capable of being honest and responsible about the state of the union and not pursuing a low end playoff spot (and failing) and instead making a real commitment to a rebuild and looking like this:
PG: Rubio (for Lee), Baker, Randle
SG: Monk (8), Evan Turner (for 15, 26)
SF: Justin Jackson (15), Shabazz Muhammed (if cheap contract, low risk), Kooz
PF: KP, DJ Wilson (26), Burton (44)
C: Hernangomez, KOQ, Noah
That lineup would win about 30 games and then you are stuck with a bunch of bloated contracts.
Hopefully less games
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yeah I'm dying to know the plan as well, but so many moving pieces given notion of Melo, Lee and/or KOQ being traded, whomever we get at 8, and whether he is capable of being honest and responsible about the state of the union and not pursuing a low end playoff spot (and failing) and instead making a real commitment to a rebuild and looking like this:
PG: Rubio (for Lee), Baker, Randle
SG: Monk (8), Evan Turner (for 15, 26)
SF: Justin Jackson (15), Shabazz Muhammed (if cheap contract, low risk), Kooz
PF: KP, DJ Wilson (26), Burton (44)
C: Hernangomez, KOQ, Noah
That lineup would win about 30 games and then you are stuck with a bunch of bloated contracts.
He forgot Lance Thomas which would probably increase the win total to like 50 games.
Counterpoint: Vlade is a moron who was fleeced by Sam Hinkie. That 3 was their original pick...
Plus there is just a ton of money that NEEDS to be spent to get to cap floors.
I do wonder whether there is going to be a trend in the league where more GMs recognize that player X is talented but maybe isnt conducive to winning. E.g. do you want to pay real month to Shabbaz and have him clog your offense up? Do you want to trade for Drummond when he can be hack-a-Shaq'd to death? Love, when he can neither guard the perimeter or rim protect? Obviously these guys dont PREVENT you from winnings, but in a cap league how much can you pay for guys with fatal flaws in their game? Shabbaz isnt getting megabux, but even in the 10-15 range (look at the PER & WS48), seems like a bad investment.
OTOH, top 5 players help cover the warts of others, and there are not as many "no drawback" players as there are teams that would like them. That's why I think 3 years of Courtney Lee should get us a late #1. Courtney Lee isnt gonna mess up your offense/defense.
Young pieces: Baker, Monk, Jackson, KP, Wilson, Hernangomez.
Rubio serves to change the culture from selfishness to sharing of the basketball, helping all the kids grow as players.
Turner is useful, albeit with his disgusting contract. But I'd trade cap room (that won't attract meaningful players) for Jackson, Wilson.
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PG: Rubio (for Lee), Baker, Randle
SG: Monk (8), Evan Turner (for 15, 26)
SF: Justin Jackson (15), Shabazz Muhammed (if cheap contract, low risk), Kooz
PF: KP, DJ Wilson (26), Burton (44)
C: Hernangomez, KOQ, Noah
"Derrick loves New York and wants to be there," Rose's agent, B.J. Armstrong, told Bleacher Report recently. "We've expressed that to them and been very consistent about it. Whether it happens is on them; all we can do is be clear."
Pelton's model estimates the number of wins above replacement player each player will average during his first five seasons in the NBA. The two components of the model takes translated college/international performance and adds in age.
Dennis Smith Jr. and Zach Collins round out the top-5 while Josh Jackson ranks sixth. De'Aaron Fox, who is expected to be a top-5 pick, ranks 10th.
The culture around this team is toxic. Usually I worry about talent first, and then culture, but this team has stunk for so long and we finally have a franchise cornerstone (who has already shown signs of frustration); it's important to nip this in the bud.
There's a plausible route to being an ECF contender or more within 3-4 years but it depends on a happy and flourishing KP.
"Derrick loves New York and wants to be there," Rose's agent, B.J. Armstrong, told Bleacher Report recently. "We've expressed that to them and been very consistent about it. Whether it happens is on them; all we can do is be clear."
Is BJ Armstrong actually his agent or is that a sarcastic quip? Is it bad that neither would shock me?
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just leave this here...
"Derrick loves New York and wants to be there," Rose's agent, B.J. Armstrong, told Bleacher Report recently. "We've expressed that to them and been very consistent about it. Whether it happens is on them; all we can do is be clear."
Is BJ Armstrong actually his agent or is that a sarcastic quip? Is it bad that neither would shock me?
He's legit his agent
1. Fultz
2. Ball
3. Jackson
4. Isaac
5. Fox
6. DSJ
7. Tatum
8. Monk
Gimme one....Holler if you hear me
I basically have the 4 I would most like
Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Isaac and then 4 guys I like (just a little less) but more than I like Frenchy, Markkanen etc. After Isaac I could be convinced any of the next 4 would be "best" for us. I just want one of those 8 guys.
"Derrick loves New York and wants to be there," Rose's agent, B.J. Armstrong, told Bleacher Report recently. "We've expressed that to them and been very consistent about it. Whether it happens is on them; all we can do is be clear."
translation: his agent knows that there's not going to be much of a market for Rose...and is hoping Phil is dumb enough to bring him back.
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just leave this here...
"Derrick loves New York and wants to be there," Rose's agent, B.J. Armstrong, told Bleacher Report recently. "We've expressed that to them and been very consistent about it. Whether it happens is on them; all we can do is be clear."
translation: his agent knows that there's not going to be much of a market for Rose...and is hoping Phil is dumb enough to bring him back.
Yeah. And when he ends up taking a very low $$ deal from a non-CLE/GSW playoff team, we'll hear about how he's made enough and all he wants to do is win.
I feel like Milwaukee would be a good spot for him. He can be a 6th man of the year -- he will absolutely torch 2nd units, and get a break defensively against subs. And since Giannis can play so many positions, they can mix him in with the starters with easy. Not sure the Bucks would be interested, but for the right price/understanding about role, Rose is a solid play.