NFT: NYK - draft/trade talk

I was simply stating a Booker/ball backcourt would be pretty intriguing. That's all. Would it not? 2 guys that can push the pace. Ball might have a funky shot but he was incredibly efficient in spot up situations. Well beyond NBA range too. Jackson solves bigger issues on defense for them and is a facilitator in his own right without being ball dominant.

claims we are serious about Kennard at 8.

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claims we are serious about Kennard at 8.

Where's my barf bag?


Well, Rambis would love him. He can't guard for shit.

and will have trouble off the dribble in the NBA.

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the fact the Lakers wouldn't want Willy given the fact they have Zubac... IF the Lakers offered 2 for 8 and Willy would you do it?

Yes in a heartbeat. Willys a nice prospect on a fantastic contract but that's a no brainer to me. KP is the only untouchable on the Knicks. 8 to 2 is a huge jump.

But not 8. God no, not at 8.

needs to let RC Buford/Morey etc know that if they need to dump salary to add Chris Paul we are there for them.... at the price of picks/young talent. Use us baby!.

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claims we are serious about Kennard at 8.

That's a true remote thrower. This is what scares me about giving Phil another offseason. If they take Kennard I need to take a break from the Knicks.

That might not happen at the Knicks� summer-league in Orlando, with games starting July 1st. The Knicks want him to play. Baker is on the fence. It�s strictly business.

Undrafted last year (the Knicks didn�t have a pick), Baker signed to the rookie minimum of $541,000 after making the team out of training camp.

However, it was a one-year deal, and Baker becomes a restricted free agent July 1 and may draw outside interests. The Knicks can match any offer, but would have to use cap space if it�s beyond another minimum pact.

After the draft, four teams called Baker�s agent interested in signing him for summer league/training camp � Oklahoma City, which almost drafted him and is located an hour from his hometown of Scott City, Kansas, the Nets, the Cavaliers and Bulls. There�s keen mutual interest in re-signing but money has to be a factor.

He's a guy who comes off the bench to shoot 5-8 3s in 10-15 minutes. That's it.

The Knicks aren't doing all this scouting of Monk, Smith and Frank so they can turn around and reach for Kennard at eight. Either they have a trade down in mind or think they have another first coming their way. Or Kennard is this year's Trey Lyles.

I assume our three picks will play but who else?

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The Knicks aren't doing all this scouting of Monk, Smith and Frank so they can turn around and reach for Kennard at eight. Either they have a trade down in mind or think they have another first coming their way. Or Kennard is this year's Trey Lyles.

In fairness they just had Kennard in for a private workout and it's been noted he outplayed 2 other "first round locks" in other workouts (one apparently was Turd Ferguson).

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In comment 13502114 bceagle05 said: Quote: The Knicks aren't doing all this scouting of Monk, Smith and Frank so they can turn around and reach for Kennard at eight. Either they have a trade down in mind or think they have another first coming their way. Or Kennard is this year's Trey Lyles. In fairness they just had Kennard in for a private workout and it's been noted he outplayed 2 other "first round locks" in other workouts (one apparently was Turd Ferguson).

Oh shit....haha

jackson and kennard sounds like lyles and kaminsky all over again...

2 years night before draft chad ford said knicks do not like anyone and are looking to trade back to take lyles or kaminsky...

chad ford is a hack

to meet with the Celtics wow.

guessing the Celtics are meeting with DSJ in case they pull the trigger on the 5 and 10 rumor.

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guessing the Celtics are meeting with DSJ in case they pull the trigger on the 5 and 10 rumor.

i have a feeling there is a lot of movement thursday...

supposedly portland has not worked anyonr out since monday

topic but funny that everyone insists nobody wants to go to Utah and Lillard (oddly) noted if he left Portland he'd go to LAL or Utah.

just won finals MVP of whatever league he's in. Kings baby!

8. New York Knicks: Dennis Smith, PG, NC State | Freshman

The Knicks should use this summer to hit the reset button, forgoing win-now trades and signings in favor of forward-thinking moves to surround center Kristaps Porzingis with young talent. That means moving on from Derrick Rose and refraining from acquiring another veteran point guard, like Jrue Holiday or Ricky Rubio. Instead, they can nab their PG of the future in Smith, whose ability to manufacture offense off the dribble and top-tier athleticism have gone under-appreciated amid the tidal wave of hype generated by other prospects at his position, like Fultz, Fox and Ball.


Knicks pass on Tatum, Frenchy and Monk... who falls to 14
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crabbe harkless 15 20 26 for lee, oquin. amd 8 would you do it?

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crabbe harkless 15 20 26 for lee, oquin. amd 8 would you do it?

Nope, not me. Odds are the player at 8 would be the best one in that deal.

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In comment 13502230 nygiants16 said: Quote: crabbe harkless 15 20 26 for lee, oquin. amd 8 would you do it? Nope, not me. Odds are the player at 8 would be the best one in that deal.

yeah i am not sure either, i know if smith, tatum or mpnk is sittinf there i am not doing it...

if all 3 were gone i would probably think about it

over Tatum. Other than wingspan (which now has become our equivalent of the three-cone drill), he has the sort of physical ability and ball-handling that might well be unplayable with NBA spacing.

would be incredible. I wonder who we'd take? I'd say Tatum.

with DSJ is his attitude. We need two way players who will buy into a team system.

Regardless, it sounds like he'll be gone.

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Word out of LA is Markelle Fultz "murdered" his Lakers workout yesterday. May be "the best one" they've seen. Sadly, likely all for naught.
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I'm told Fultz played competitively 2 on 2, even though that wasn't agreed to in advance. Apparently shot ball very well.Tested 40 inch vert
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Multiple sources have told me that Magic "is in love" with Fultz. May try to move up to #1, possibly with a Julius Randle + #2 pick offer.

to the 76ers?

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Sources: Philadelphia is waiting on medical information on Markelle Fultz, but deep into talks on acquiring Boston's No. 1 overall pick.

It's the Lakers pick next year and the Sixers pick this year as the core of the deal.

Celtics are believed to want Tatum at 3.

makes sense for both teams if BOS isnt sold on Fultz as a cut above. BOS may even need to give back something.

OTOH, Randle had a really good season. The assist #s were eye popping. Also, he's now JACKED. See link. It all depends on what you think of JR and whether you're ready to pay him next summer.
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deal does NOT include Randle per sources. Expected to be Sixers 1st and a future #1 (likely the LAL unprotected pick)

1. Fultz
2. ??
3. Tatum
4. Suns
5. SacTown... Ball to Sacramento would be too funny for Lavar

#2 and Randle vs. #3 and Lakers #1 next season (call it top 5). I'd probably lean with Philly's package, although Randle would address the PF/reb issue in Boston ASAP.

I think Ainge is punting. Keep this team together, fine, but the window is post GSW for anyone who can wait.

There or LA. If Im PHX, I dont subject Booker to constant public callouts from Lavar every time Booker has an off night or misses the tying/winning shot. In LA or SAC, it can be the Lonzo show.

should take Isaac. Isaac+Chriss doing some of the dirty work and Booker the Harden. Deal Bledsoe (who should bring back a decent return), Bender was horrendous but he still has a "shot" to be something.

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should take Isaac. Isaac+Chriss doing some of the dirty work and Booker the Harden. Deal Bledsoe (who should bring back a decent return), Bender was horrendous but he still has a "shot" to be something.

How about Toby Harris and #12?

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In comment 13502319 DanMetroMan said: Quote: should take Isaac. Isaac+Chriss doing some of the dirty work and Booker the Harden. Deal Bledsoe (who should bring back a decent return), Bender was horrendous but he still has a "shot" to be something. How about Toby Harris and #12?

That's actually a pretty solid deal. That makes sense to me. The Suns are in a pretty prime position with Bledsoe being a good player with a solid contract that likely has value + Booker/Chriss to build on. Bender was REALLY bad but I'm willing to give a guy a second year before 100% calling him a bust. If you added in Harris and whomever you want at 12... that could be something pretty nice.

how about Bledsoe for Thon?

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deal does NOT include Randle per sources. Expected to be Sixers 1st and a future #1 (likely the LAL unprotected pick) 1. Fultz 2. ?? 3. Tatum 4. Suns 5. SacTown... Ball to Sacramento would be too funny for Lavar

And remember that Jackson supposedly got a top-3 guarantee. So Jackson could go #2 and Ball could drop a bit.


Exciting times

so fulz, jackson tatum isaac, does sac go fox who they supposedly love or take ball?

you would assume ball would not get passed orlando

That's an absolutely sick team

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Also was told that Josh Jackson's workout in LA "did not go well at all." Brought high energy but struggled with his shooting and handle.


So what would the Lakers do then if no Jackson or Ball?

Timberwolves screw the Knicks YET AGAIN by taking either Ball, Jackson or Tatum

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Jonathan Givony‏Verified account @DraftExpress 6m6 minutes ago More Word out of LA is Markelle Fultz "murdered" his Lakers workout yesterday. May be "the best one" they've seen. Sadly, likely all for naught. 1 reply 73 retweets 11 likes Reply 1 Retweeted 73 Like 11 Direct message Jonathan Givony‏Verified account @DraftExpress 5m5 minutes ago More I'm told Fultz played competitively 2 on 2, even though that wasn't agreed to in advance. Apparently shot ball very well.Tested 40 inch vert 1 reply 10 retweets 5 likes Reply 1 Retweet 10 Like 5 Direct message Jonathan Givony‏Verified account @DraftExpress 5m5 minutes ago More Multiple sources have told me that Magic "is in love" with Fultz. May try to move up to #1, possibly with a Julius Randle + #2 pick offer.

So it's basically the Sixers and Lakers in a bidding war to move up to #1 to Fultz. Celtics should get a king's ransom.


So the Sixers improve; the Celtics improve (now and for the future) and the Knicks...well, we've got Ron Baker.

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Timberwolves screw the Knicks YET AGAIN by taking either Ball, Jackson or Tatum

I share your frustration, as do all of us I'm sure. Sucks to have to sit back and watch Boston and Philly build great young teams while we.....do whatever it is we're doing. And I fucking hate Minnesota - the only solace I take is that Minny's been picking in the top 10 my entire life and they still suck.

sixers have been tanking for how long?

the celtics are set for the future? lets see who they draft first, ainge has not been the best drafter...

relax, breathe

In comment 13502230 nygiants16 said:

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crabbe harkless 15 20 26 for lee, oquin. amd 8 would you do it?

No

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sixers have been tanking for how long? the celtics are set for the future? lets see who they draft first, ainge has not been the best drafter... relax, breathe

Sixers for one whole entire year before the Knicks.

When has ainge fucked up a top pick? His job is pretty clear cut this year.

individual workouts. Get the interview part. Why the workout on the court? Isnt there enough game video of the players in actual game action.