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NFT: Mets-Nats Round 1

spike : 6/15/2017 3:17 pm
Gsellman vs Gio Gonzalez

Lagares
Flores 3B
Cespedes
Bruce
TJ 2B
Duda
Rene R
Reyes
Gsellman

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RE: Harvey injury might be a blessing in disguise  
Metnut : 6/15/2017 4:19 pm : link
In comment 13501226 spike said:
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it allows him to rest and rehab properly without the stress of pitching in Queens. It also gets the Mets a chance to remove one of their worse starters this season out of the rotation without the embarrassment


Good post. I don't think Harvey is a lost cause yet by any means, but he wasn't helping the team that way he was pitching. A chance for him to rest, work on his mechanics and maybe come back better could be a good thing for us.

We really need to cross our fingers that the rest of the starters stay healthy. DeGrom/Matz/Gsellmen/Lugo/Wheeler isn't an elite rotation like we were hoping but it still has the potential to be pretty good and get us back into the race.
We absolutely need Degrom  
spike : 6/15/2017 4:28 pm : link
to be vintage Degrom or our season is really toast.
IS TDA injured?  
Vanzetti : 6/15/2017 4:47 pm : link
He is hitting .400 against LHP. Does not seem like a good spot to rest him.
Walker will hurt because he has been playing well  
Vanzetti : 6/15/2017 4:52 pm : link
The blessing might be that the injury will make Sandy think twice about signing him longterm. I think Sandy really wants to sign him as a comp for losing Murphy.

Might also make Walker amenable to a two-year deal. Given that he will be 32 and will have missed significant time each of the last two seasons, teams will be reluctant to give him a long deal.

Walker has been much more clutch in his second season in NY. Definitely would not mind him on a two-year deal, especially since Cecchini is looking more and more like a bust
RE: IS TDA injured?  
spike : 6/15/2017 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13501270 Vanzetti said:
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He is hitting .400 against LHP. Does not seem like a good spot to rest him.


it seems like Rivera and TDa are alternating games.

Evan Engrom is pitching the first pitch at Citifield tonight.
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arcarsenal : 6/15/2017 6:00 pm : link
This series definitely has a little juice... didn't think there was any chance it would as recently as a few weeks ago.

Actually a little pumped for this. Hopefully the Mets don't kill my buzz.
RE: Told my son, AFTER the WS performance,  
Rflairr : 6/15/2017 7:00 pm : link
In comment 13501222 Beezer said:
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that I thought the Mets should deal Harvey right then and there. He thought I was crazy.

I'm only right about such things very occasionally. Damn, the guy is a fucking train wreck.


At this point he might be a guy they consider non tender this offseason
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arcarsenal : 6/15/2017 7:15 pm : link
Can we NOT give up a HR in the first inning at some point?
Cespedes and Bruce w back to back  
JayBinQueens : 6/15/2017 8:25 pm : link
Doubles.
2-1 nats

Just keep it close and work gios pitch count now
Thats some bullshit by Duda  
Rflairr : 6/15/2017 8:35 pm : link
How the hell can you not make that play. Embarrassing defense.
.  
arcarsenal : 6/15/2017 8:35 pm : link
Shoulda known this team wouldn't show up tonight.

I don't know why I get my hopes up.
This team completely screwed  
Rflairr : 6/15/2017 8:38 pm : link
Gsellman with their defense today
another day another injury  
spike : 6/15/2017 8:52 pm : link
F Ramirez. What a joke
TJ is a better 3rd baseman  
spike : 6/15/2017 8:54 pm : link
than Wilmer, who should be playing 2nd.
8-2 Nats  
spike : 6/15/2017 8:56 pm : link
Looks like a Montero and Neil Ramirez night
wow  
Rflairr : 6/15/2017 8:58 pm : link
cough another one up to the defense
With Harvey out  
spike : 6/15/2017 8:58 pm : link
shouldn't they recall Pill or Robles?

The Mets with a short bench again.
RE: With Harvey out  
Rflairr : 6/15/2017 9:05 pm : link
In comment 13501399 spike said:
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shouldn't they recall Pill or Robles?

The Mets with a short bench again.


Reynolds pulled from Vegas game
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arcarsenal : 6/15/2017 9:14 pm : link
Welp, that's the end of Lagares for a long time.

So much for getting healthy. Never happens with this team.
Wow unreal  
Rflairr : 6/15/2017 9:18 pm : link
Lagares finally getting his chance. And playing well. And now he breaks his thumb. Everyone injured
We were so close to having a full lineup  
ZGiants98 : 6/15/2017 9:19 pm : link
For one day. Lol
counting th e days  
spike : 6/15/2017 9:28 pm : link
until Amed arrives
.  
arcarsenal : 6/15/2017 9:29 pm : link
I get that the Lagares injury probably happens no matter what but how can this org not take a serious look at the trainers and methodology being used on these players?

The fact that this entire fucking team is getting hurt year in and year out cannot possibly be a coincidence at this point. I honestly think there's a problem with this training staff and have said it many times. I wish they'd take a more serious look at this and overhaul the entire thing. It sure as hell can't get any fucking worse.
Kudos to Montero  
spike : 6/15/2017 10:03 pm : link
For three clean mop up innings
RE: .  
Jay on the Island : 6/15/2017 10:41 pm : link
In comment 13501415 arcarsenal said:
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I get that the Lagares injury probably happens no matter what but how can this org not take a serious look at the trainers and methodology being used on these players?

The fact that this entire fucking team is getting hurt year in and year out cannot possibly be a coincidence at this point. I honestly think there's a problem with this training staff and have said it many times. I wish they'd take a more serious look at this and overhaul the entire thing. It sure as hell can't get any fucking worse.

The Giants proved that a training staff can have a profound impact on injuries. It is no coincidence that the Giants led the league two years in a row, even setting a new NFL record for starters games lost to injury, with Coughlin's staff and then they are among the healthiest in football with McAdoo's new staff.
Was at the game tonight  
Metnut : 6/15/2017 10:51 pm : link
rough. Completely misjudged the pitching matchup. Gio was really good and Gsellmen wasn't good. Lagares injury sucks.

Oh well. Let's steal it tomorrow vs Scherzer and have some fun this weekend. Can we please bring Rosario up? Reyes is sooooooo bad and Reynolds is worse.
When is Nimmo coming up?  
spike : 6/15/2017 10:52 pm : link
Or will it be Pill to replace Harvey?

Or will it be both since all these guys are going on the DL simultaneously?
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 6/15/2017 10:59 pm : link
In comment 13501484 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13501415 arcarsenal said:


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I get that the Lagares injury probably happens no matter what but how can this org not take a serious look at the trainers and methodology being used on these players?

The fact that this entire fucking team is getting hurt year in and year out cannot possibly be a coincidence at this point. I honestly think there's a problem with this training staff and have said it many times. I wish they'd take a more serious look at this and overhaul the entire thing. It sure as hell can't get any fucking worse.


The Giants proved that a training staff can have a profound impact on injuries. It is no coincidence that the Giants led the league two years in a row, even setting a new NFL record for starters games lost to injury, with Coughlin's staff and then they are among the healthiest in football with McAdoo's new staff.


Yup, the Giants are exactly why I am feeling very strongly that this is a training staff issue. The Mets are ravaged by injuries every fucking year. I can't even remember the last season that it felt like barely anyone got hurt. It's ridiculous.
RE: When is Nimmo coming up?  
Jay on the Island : 6/15/2017 11:03 pm : link
In comment 13501493 spike said:
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Or will it be Pill to replace Harvey?

Or will it be both since all these guys are going on the DL simultaneously?

Nimmo has been struggling in Vegas.
RE: RE: When is Nimmo coming up?  
pjcas18 : 6/15/2017 11:06 pm : link
In comment 13501501 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13501493 spike said:


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Or will it be Pill to replace Harvey?

Or will it be both since all these guys are going on the DL simultaneously?


Nimmo has been struggling in Vegas.


He's the only AAA OFer on the 40-man.
unfortunately, Nimmo and Cecchini ae looking like busts  
Vanzetti : 6/16/2017 6:35 pm : link
Nimmo is not really even a prospect any more and Cecc is fringe at best
Cecchini has 7 career ABs  
Eric on Li : 6/16/2017 6:51 pm : link
he still has much more of a chance to do something than Nimmo.
Nats killing us again  
spike : 6/16/2017 9:31 pm : link
Mets must win the next two games to salvage the series.
TJ  
spike : 6/16/2017 9:41 pm : link
with a lazy throw to 2nd base failed us
why burn another pitcher  
spike : 6/16/2017 9:46 pm : link
they are down 6-1 and top of ninth with two outs

only fuckin terry
without fail  
spike : 6/16/2017 9:52 pm : link
they walk someone with the bases loaded
Vintage DeGrom  
spike : 6/18/2017 3:39 pm : link
kudos. He's still our one true ACE.

To those who still care about the Mess
Didn't hold out  
Stufftherun : 6/18/2017 10:54 pm : link
much hope after they were embarrassed in the first three games of the series. Thank God for Jake salvaging the final game.
LA Dodgers  
spike : 6/19/2017 12:40 am : link
will probably beat up the mets pretty good the next few days
Hopefully when Cabrera returns this week  
spike : 6/19/2017 10:56 am : link
the dreadful Reyes gets a seat on the bench. Flores gets 2b and TJ plays 3rd every day from now until Walker returns.
RE: LA Dodgers  
spike : 6/19/2017 10:29 pm : link
In comment 13503545 spike said:
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will probably beat up the mets pretty good the next few days


Game is over even before one out is registered. Kershaw day.

this LA team might be the class of the NL
Yup, as close to  
Stufftherun : 6/19/2017 10:36 pm : link
over as a game can be before the first inning is over.
LA has some damn  
spike : 6/19/2017 10:52 pm : link
good hitting prospects/young studs

Jealous.
.  
arcarsenal : 6/19/2017 11:07 pm : link
Love when the Mets let me get to bed nice and early during a WC trip.

This team fucking sucks.
who i s this new Montero  
spike : 6/19/2017 11:11 pm : link
?

they ought to bean  
spike : 6/19/2017 11:30 pm : link
Mr Bellinger
Cecchini  
Stufftherun : 6/19/2017 11:45 pm : link
won't forget that moment anytime too soon.
I hope Cecchini gets a little run of regular playing time  
Eric on Li : 6/19/2017 11:48 pm : link
he could be a nice piece for a team that could use a guy that makes good contact and is hard to strike out.
RE: I hope Cecchini gets a little run of regular playing time  
spike : 6/20/2017 12:00 am : link
In comment 13504464 Eric on Li said:
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he could be a nice piece for a team that could use a guy that makes good contact and is hard to strike out.


problem is, he is strictly 2nd base. But yeah, I 'd rather let go of Reyes and Cabrera
not a problem bc they don't have any 2B under contract next year  
Eric on Li : 6/20/2017 12:07 am : link
Reyes and Walker on last years, Cabrera has an option that's probably a 50-50 proposition right now. 2 are obviously hurt right now and Reyes has been terrible. Not saying it's gonna happen, but the job is there for someone to win.
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