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So Goodson is getting really comfortable in the middle...(yelled at DRC)

j_rud : 6/16/2017 7:07 am
Did a few searches and didn't see this discussed, found it in an article on defenderdawg's daily thread (btw, thanks dd, you're the man). After not calling the D at Clemson Goodson is settling in as the play caller, and he apparently doesn't have any problem getting loud with his teammates, even established veterans, when they're out of position. From yesterday's Post...

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“I almost had to get on him the other day, he kind of yelled at me a little bit, and I had to realize that’s my linebacker and he don’t know me like that, so I’m gonna let him have that,’’ Rodgers-Cromartie said. “I let it go this time. Not next time.’’

The decibel level was not appreciated, but what about the content of Goodson’s call?

“He was correct, but just say it to me,’’ DRC said. “Don’t yell.’’


Before anyone tries to put a negative spin on it, DRC went on to say that he likes seeing that from a young player and it shows he has the right attitude and approach. I'm all about realistic expectations and tempers enthusiasm, but it's getting hard not to get excited about this kid...
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He seems like a natural leader.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/16/2017 8:06 am : link
Good to read.
I'm encouraged by what I've read about Goodson.  
Klaatu : 6/16/2017 8:14 am : link
After what was essentially a red-shirt year as a rookie, it seems to me that the Giants feel he's ready for "prime time." I like the fact that he's being mentored by Antonio Pierce, and I also like reading that he's staying on the field in the nickel defense.
Harry Carson #2 - teams need a leader in the middle  
PatersonPlank : 6/16/2017 8:25 am : link
He sounds like the guy.
RE: Harry Carson #2 - teams need a leader in the middle  
PatersonPlank : 6/16/2017 8:26 am : link
In comment 13501638 PatersonPlank said:
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He sounds like the guy.


Harry even used to boss LT around. I think LT said something like Carson was the only guy he was afraid of.
I havent been this excited about a  
Chris684 : 6/16/2017 8:28 am : link
homegrown MLB since Goff, and I think Goodson is going to be better and I hope healthier.
RE: I'm encouraged by what I've read about Goodson.  
j_rud : 6/16/2017 8:41 am : link
In comment 13501628 Klaatu said:
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After what was essentially a red-shirt year as a rookie, it seems to me that the Giants feel he's ready for "prime time." I like the fact that he's being mentored by Antonio Pierce, and I also like reading that he's staying on the field in the nickel defense.


Yeah, it's really encouraging that he's been in coverage subpackages. It's been all good news so far. Hopefully he keeps it up once the pads go on.
I like it ...  
annexOPR : 6/16/2017 8:57 am : link
Man this defense could push towards historic/legendary status with a great MLB

LOL  
Deej : 6/16/2017 9:10 am : link
"he dont know me like that"
It's so easy to get excited about this defense...  
Dan in the Springs : 6/16/2017 9:14 am : link
It's almost like you can't wait to face Dallas on opening night.

But I remember how excited I was about the offense last year, and we took a step backwards.

Are we overlooking the impact of losing Hankins? Especially against a team like Dallas - where you absolutely have to stop the run first?

86 days. Can't come soon enough. I got to get busy the next six weeks because there just isn't enough football news to occupy my mind and I'll go nuts just waiting for camp.
Goodson is a thumper  
Simms11 : 6/16/2017 9:22 am : link
and I think he'll do much better then Sheppard did last year. He's not much in coverage, but could really bring it in run defense. On paper this defense looks really good. We'll see how it comes together this year?! We are playing some very good offenses this year and it'll be very interesting to see how we do.
RE: It's so easy to get excited about this defense...  
annexOPR : 6/16/2017 10:04 am : link
In comment 13501698 Dan in the Springs said:
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It's almost like you can't wait to face Dallas on opening night.

But I remember how excited I was about the offense last year, and we took a step backwards.

Are we overlooking the impact of losing Hankins? Especially against a team like Dallas - where you absolutely have to stop the run first?

86 days. Can't come soon enough. I got to get busy the next six weeks because there just isn't enough football news to occupy my mind and I'll go nuts just waiting for camp.


1. This TE crop is actually talented, excelling in various aspects of the position
2. Marshall >>> Cruz
3. Shepard year 2
4. Pugh/Richburg hopefully healthy, Flowers is in top shape
5. "Advanced metrics" actually point to Hankins having his worst season of his career last year. He hasn't played great in 2 seasons and the 2nd round draft pick has the potential to be just as good/if not better. Also, 75% of this DL is all-pro caliber, so I'm not too worried.

The OL is a concern, but the Giants played it smart by not reaching/overpaying to address it and indirectly did so by adding an excellent blocking TE in Ellison. He will make a big difference in both the run/pass game. Perkins replacing Jennings will also help - he can create on his own (and he'll need to). Marshall had me thinking SB as soon as the ink dried ... he's going to take this offense to the next level and is a huge upgrade from Cruz. The defense continues to field an all-pro caliber secondary/DL with what could be our best LB corp in awhile (huge Goodson/Kennard fan).

The OL is mediocre, at best, but this roster is absolutely loaded. If Engram develops into a Jordan Reed/Aaron Hernandez "weapon" ... this team can not be stopped.

I have never been so excited for a season to start.
"Giants Defense Becoming a Divided Group"  
Mr. Bungle : 6/16/2017 10:51 am : link
by Gary Meyers
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arcarsenal : 6/16/2017 11:09 am : link
This is all good stuff.

Love DRC and am really excited about the prospect of Goodson developing into a true thumper in the middle.
DRCs feelings  
Jimmy Googs : 6/16/2017 12:37 pm : link
whatever...
hopefully he can  
msh : 6/16/2017 1:18 pm : link
take that pierce role and quarterback the defence the way pierce used to do they have missed that since he left alot of people hate on the giants LB corp but they are better than they have been since 2007 and have potential to eclipse that group as kennard and goodson look to be getting better casillas doesnt get much recognition either better than many think and certainly what i thought when they signed him

chase blackburn was the same he never got the credit he deserved either his play against gronk was a key to thier win
remember when Strahan  
area junc : 6/16/2017 1:27 pm : link
said the Giants needed an "a$$hole" on D? Goodson could be that guy. And there isn't a better position for it than MLB.
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Bleedin Blue : 6/16/2017 1:31 pm : link
In comment 13501790 Mr. Bungle said:
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by Gary Meyers


Ha Ha!!! My thoughts exactly!!! Good One! LOL!
He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
Vanzetti : 6/16/2017 2:52 pm : link
and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame
RE: He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/16/2017 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13502147 Vanzetti said:
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and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame


If you can't be optimistic in June, when can't you be?
Goodson is a much better athlete  
Sy'56 : 6/16/2017 3:09 pm : link
than some of you are giving him credit for. I think he is the best athlete NYG has had at MLB in a very long time
RE: He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
arcarsenal : 6/16/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13502147 Vanzetti said:
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and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame


LOL, cmon. I think most people are just looking for a step forward and like his potential. No one said Goodson has transformed into prime Antonio Pierce overnight.
RE: He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
area junc : 6/16/2017 3:35 pm : link
In comment 13502147 Vanzetti said:
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and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame


If you look at it, Goodson was starting to eat into Sheppard's snaps by the end of the season. Sheppard didn't play much himself, so it was hard to notice, but it was there.

B.J. was a rookie last year in a very complicated scheme. He wasn't going to start over a 5-year vet with solid communication skills in a highly complicated scheme. Spags has alluded to this before, we've got 6 All Pros in that huddle. You've got to earn their respect.
RE: He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
Klaatu : 6/16/2017 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13502147 Vanzetti said:
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and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame


I didn't even know there was a BBI Hall of Fame!

I can't wait to visit and see your bust in the Douchebag Section.
RE: He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
j_rud : 6/16/2017 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13502147 Vanzetti said:
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and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame


Spags is excited about his potential, I guess you'd condescendingly mock him too.
RE: He couldn't beat out Kelvin Sheppard last year  
santacruzom : 6/16/2017 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13502147 Vanzetti said:
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and now you guys have him in the BBI Hall of Fame


BBI Hall of Fame?? Hell, I have him in the NFL Hall of Fame. And beyond that, the Person Hall of Fame. He'll be Time Magazine's Man of the Year, and the upcoming treaty between the US and North Korea will be called the Goodson Pact in his honor.
area junc  
XBRONX : 6/16/2017 7:48 pm : link
Just make stuff up. Goodson was eating into Sheppards snap count? Tell us how many snaps Goodson got all year.
RE: area junc  
Semipro Lineman : 6/16/2017 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13502404 XBRONX said:
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Just make stuff up. Goodson was eating into Sheppards snap count? Tell us how many snaps Goodson got all year.


While our contestant thinks about the question, here's the answer for members of the studio audience.
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The answer is  
Jimmy Googs : 6/16/2017 9:35 pm : link
14...
RE: The answer is  
Semipro Lineman : 6/16/2017 9:51 pm : link
In comment 13502445 Jimmy Googs said:
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14...


But nine of those came in week 14 so that proves the point even if he didn't get another regular defensive snap for the rest of the season
I would agree.  
Jimmy Googs : 6/16/2017 10:02 pm : link
But petty BBI-shit aside, I have this feeling that Goodson is going to be the goods...
13 snaps  
XBRONX : 6/16/2017 10:12 pm : link
proves what?
RE: 13 snaps  
Jimmy Googs : 6/16/2017 10:26 pm : link
In comment 13502474 XBRONX said:
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proves what?


Absolutely nothing. The Goodson vibe comes from having decent parts at all lines of the defense, a year learning, and a guy that seems to have some bark.

Now lets see if he has some bite to go with the bark...
Jimmy Googs  
XBRONX : 6/16/2017 10:29 pm : link
I think Goodson can be a big upgrade this year.
If he does not merit being on the field on passing downs  
George from PA : 6/17/2017 5:09 am : link
Then.....no big deal. He must either show he can cover or get to QB......run stuffers are not major players any more.

Carson today....would never had made the HoF in today's nfl
We could have 5 good (not great) LBers  
ZGiants98 : 6/17/2017 9:08 pm : link
for 3 spots. It's been a while since we've been able to say that.
This is really good news...  
JPinstripes : 6/18/2017 7:14 am : link
Last years NYG draft class has a chance to development into one of its deepest in a long time, especially if players like Goodson and Perkins turn into solid starters in year 2.
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