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I guess Sean Payton was also a moron about Nassib

RetroJint : 6/18/2017 9:34 am
when he says he liked Ryan after his SU career concluded. Maybe it was those 3 wins over Geno coming immediately after a period when the Orange won about 10 games in 5 years. The program nosedived ,yet again , immediately after Nassib (and Marrone) left.

Some myth debunking:
1. Nobody wanted the bum. No, he had to fully rehabilitate his injury before he could work out for teams.

2. He was a total flop as a fourth-round pick. No, he was a DNP, not a flop. No one will ever know how he would have performed in the regular season for the Giants had Eli been injured . It's all conjecture . He was an insurance policy never used.

3. His play in pre-season was so absymal that he was obviously in over his head. Carl Banks : Clueless in NJ ; happy feet and all of that. Well , offensive and QB guru ( Romo) Payton is quoted as saying that when he watched his pre-season film, it was obvious Nassib knew where he was supposed to go with the ball. That is only Quality A-1, fucking 1, to judging a quarterback.

Not sure what the future holds for a Ryan. I do know he has a better arm than Daniel. Like everyone else who presumes the continued health of ancient warriors , the Saints are a play from finding out .
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/18/2017 9:43 am : link
I've defended Nassib in the past, but he played like crap last preseason. He regressed.
I am assuming the OP is a Syracuse alumn/fan  
jlukes : 6/18/2017 9:50 am : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/18/2017 9:55 am : link
What I find interesting is Josh Johnson coming out of nowhere and becoming the #2 QB last year and seemingly so far holding his own this offseason.
I agree that he wasn't a waste  
aquidneck : 6/18/2017 10:00 am : link
and wish him well. He was a back-up QB with upside for a few years no matter how his career ultimately turns out. That's worth a 4th and 6th imo who combined are less than 50% likely to produce a 3-year NFL starter given league averages.

Too bad he wasn't signed by Saints until after compensation expiration date, but I wasn't surprised.

Don't know how he hurt himself last year, but his upside had dissipated. He was all done with us and useless with regard to any potential return after that happened.
I have seen  
Gman11 : 6/18/2017 10:07 am : link
UFA QBs look like world beaters in the preseason playing against third stringers. If a guy is supposed to be a potential starter in the league shouldn't he at least look the part against the scrubs? Nassib looked awful. There is no way you could look at what he did in the preseason and say that he had a future as a potential starter.
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Jay on the Island : 6/18/2017 10:12 am : link
In comment 13503140 Eric from BBI said:
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What I find interesting is Josh Johnson coming out of nowhere and becoming the #2 QB last year and seemingly so far holding his own this offseason.

Josh Johnson had one of the most incredible statistical season's i've ever seen with 40 td's and 2 int's in college. I know the chances are zero but it would be great if he had a Rich Gannon type late career breakout. With that said I still think Geno Smith wins the #2 job.
It will be very interesting if Johnson-Smith are dead even at the end  
Ivan15 : 6/18/2017 10:18 am : link
of preseason.

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CoughlinHandsonHips : 6/18/2017 10:25 am : link
He did look like crap last preseason. But now we have the big picture. The offense struggled mightily all season, and he was playing mostly with those player's backups.
People on this board refuse to admit this..  
Sean : 6/18/2017 10:29 am : link
but backup QB's matter. So many Giant fans take for granted the durability of Eli. Nassib was a solid backup for us until regressing a bit last year. Reese admitted not wanting Nassib to ever play.
Yeah, Payton LOVED Nassib so much,  
Section331 : 6/18/2017 11:23 am : link
that he passed on him over 4 draft picks. If Nassib is even on the roster for game one, maybe you have a point, but if he's cut, can we get a moratorium on the "Nassib would have been a HOF'er if he only got a chance!" BS?
How can anyone call him a solid backup  
Section331 : 6/18/2017 11:25 am : link
when he never played??? That's not his fault, but you don't get to be called a solid backup be looking good holding a clipboard.
He was a waste,  
Doomster : 6/18/2017 11:31 am : link
because we had to carry 3 qb's....
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christian : 6/18/2017 11:33 am : link
The lion's share of criticism has always been the assets surrendered to acquire Nassib. Only the truly weird have had any deep rooted opinions on his play. He's a total unknown with at most an incomplete with a few ok and a few uninspiring pre-seasons.

This is one of those defense offenses when one wasn't needed.

I saw something like this once when a labor union was protesting a grocery store, but the store had closed a few weeks earlier.
That's a lot of hayte  
GiantsLaw : 6/18/2017 11:53 am : link
For a backup QB that never saw the field.
I don't get the hate for Nassib  
SHO'NUFF : 6/18/2017 12:01 pm : link
He didn't ask to be drafted by us. Had he not had the misfortune of sitting behind Iron Man, who knows where his career would be by now?
RE: He was a waste,  
BillT : 6/18/2017 12:15 pm : link
In comment 13503197 Doomster said:
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because we had to carry 3 qb's....

Only when he was a rookie, I believe. That's true almost any time anyone drafts a QB.
RE: I don't get the hate for Nassib  
Section331 : 6/18/2017 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13503216 SHO'NUFF said:
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He didn't ask to be drafted by us. Had he not had the misfortune of sitting behind Iron Man, who knows where his career would be by now?


No hate for Ryan, I truly wish him the best. What confounds me is the undying belief by many here that he was some kind to f star in waiting who never got his fair chance. I'm not criticizing Ryan, I'm critical of those who still carry a torch for him.
RE: RE: I don't get the hate for Nassib  
Gman11 : 6/18/2017 12:53 pm : link
In comment 13503226 Section331 said:
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In comment 13503216 SHO'NUFF said:

No hate for Ryan, I truly wish him the best. What confounds me is the undying belief by many here that he was some kind to f star in waiting who never got his fair chance. I'm not criticizing Ryan, I'm critical of those who still carry a torch for him.


This!
Oh for fuck's sake.  
Ryan : 6/18/2017 12:54 pm : link
He's a former back up who's now competing for a 3rd string spot and you're crowing because Sean Payton said he's smart?

If you're going to continue to let HJ45 tailpipe your car you may want to get out first. The effects of the carbon monoxide are pretty evident.
Let me know when Payton not only drafts this geek  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/18/2017 12:55 pm : link
but also moves up to draft the geek.

Beyond stupid thread. No surprise.
Post again when he makes the final 53 out of camp  
ZogZerg : 6/18/2017 1:32 pm : link
until then, this is meaningless.

Plus, I think you have the BBI Narrative all wrong. I seem to remember BBI wanting Nassib over Eli during Macs first year as O coordinator. Then you had the clowns that thought NFL teams were going to trade us a high draft pick for Nassib.
Webb is cheaper this year than Nassib's vet minimum  
njm : 6/18/2017 2:01 pm : link
I'm not bashing Nassib, and some of the bashing around here IS unfair, but Webb has as much or more potential and is 4 years younger. I have no problem with the Giant's decision.
Payton  
AcidTest : 6/18/2017 2:58 pm : link
is giving him a look. That's all.

I still don't think it was a bad idea to trade for Nassib. We hadn't signed Eli at the time, and he was in his 30s. There was also no guarantee he would stay healthy. It was also only a four and a six to get Nassib, and Reese was at that time wasting just about every third day pick anyway.

I also still think Nassib is still a bit of an unknown. He had a pretty serious elbow injury last year that required surgery. He might still develop into a decent backup. If not, he has a degree from a good university in Accounting and Finance, and was at least on an NFL roster for a few years.

I wish him the best.
It's apparent that the NASSIB pick  
OldPolack : 6/18/2017 3:53 pm : link
was because of T.C. and his connection with the Orangeman.
Two draft choices were thrown away his choice.
RE: It's apparent that the NASSIB pick  
Devon : 6/18/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13503326 OldPolack said:
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was because of T.C. and his connection with the Orangeman.
Two draft choices were thrown away his choice.


If it was just because of TC, why didn't Tom give him at least a workout in Jacksonville?

Why did the Giants still waste a roster spot on him last season, after TC was gone?
Nassib may have played against scrubs but the back-up O-line  
wgenesis123 : 6/18/2017 6:11 pm : link
protecting Nassib made it impossible to judge Nassib's performance. I still think the trade sucked and they did not need to draft a QB with so many other needs. It was obvious to almost all of us that Nassib would never get a chance to contribute to the team on the field. That was a clear waste of draft picks because of a lack of vision or to save a few measly bucks.
Educated guess  
JonC : 6/19/2017 6:09 am : link
His haters are pissed off he didn't turn into an asset worth flipping for draft picks.
He looked good in his second pre-season....  
Tesla : 6/19/2017 9:18 am : link
and absolutely incredible in his third pre-season. Looked far better than Eli that pre-season. And then for some reason he looked skittish and pretty terrible last year in the pre-season.

He's got a rocket arm (or had so before his injury)....but seemed to have a problem maintaining composure in the pocket at times.

Would love to see him make the Saints and actually get to play in some games....just to see who this guy really was.
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