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How did Giants' young players perform in offseason program?

Eric from BBI : Admin : 6/18/2017 10:07 am
Nice overview...
How did Giants' young players perform in offseason program? Rating Sterling Shepherd, Evan Engram and others - ( New Window )
I think Wheeler  
River : 6/18/2017 10:19 am : link
and Johnson both will have to make the team or they will be lost trying to get to the practice squad.
RE: I think Wheeler  
Jay on the Island : 6/18/2017 10:26 am : link
In comment 13503155 River said:
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and Johnson both will have to make the team or they will be lost trying to get to the practice squad.

Wheeler should definitely make the team assuming he stays healthy and keeps out of trouble off the field. Dunker and possibly Jarron Jones should make the practice squad.
Strong competition  
gidiefor : Mod : 6/18/2017 10:46 am : link
I like it -- this is showing me that McAdoo is no slouch when it comes to identifying talent
If anybody  
XBRONX : 6/18/2017 10:56 am : link
Thought Wheeler or Johnson were good they would have been drafted.
It's like life....  
Doomster : 6/18/2017 11:22 am : link
Some guys take advantage of their limited opportunities, and some don't.....the odds are against them making it, but sometimes fate steps in...
RE: If anybody  
Earl the goat : 6/18/2017 11:32 am : link
In comment 13503174 XBRONX said:
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Thought Wheeler or Johnson were good they would have been drafted.


You can say that about every UDFA that has made an NFL squad
And you are so very wrong
RE: If anybody  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/18/2017 4:04 pm : link
In comment 13503174 XBRONX said:
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Thought Wheeler or Johnson were good they would have been drafted.


Because the NFL always gets the draft right?
Yes  
XBRONX : 6/18/2017 4:09 pm : link
Okay. Wheeler is a stud despite his severe lack of strength.
RE: I think Wheeler  
Devon : 6/18/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13503155 River said:
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and Johnson both will have to make the team or they will be lost trying to get to the practice squad.


People say this every year about players and the vast majority of the time they make it through to the Giant PS just fine.

Every team in the NFL has players of this general caliber that "impress" this way.
Wheeler and Rudolph were the only two undrafted players...  
Milton : 6/18/2017 4:40 pm : link
...that were given signing bonuses by the Giants. Wheeler got $20K and Rudolph $10K. I think they both have a shot.
RE: Yes  
BigBlueShock : 6/18/2017 4:46 pm : link
In comment 13503334 XBRONX said:
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Okay. Wheeler is a stud despite his severe lack of strength.

Can't there be a middle ground between "stud" and worthy of making the team? Oh wait, of course not? It's Hall of Fame or bust! If you think he should make the team, you're certainly suggesting Canton is the next stop!

This place bring some real winners.
We'll see in training camp  
ctc in ftmyers : 6/18/2017 6:47 pm : link
when they aren't playing in pajamas.
RE: We'll see in training camp  
BigBlueShock : 6/18/2017 6:49 pm : link
In comment 13503416 ctc in ftmyers said:
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when they aren't playing in pajamas.

And then in training camp, we'll have to wait until the real games start when they aren't going up against backups....
Roster turnover is amazing in the NFL  
The_Boss : 6/18/2017 6:50 pm : link
Just 2 years ago, Bucky Brooks and PFF rated the total talent on the NYG roster as bottom tiered. Now? This might be one of the 5-7 most complete rosters in the sport. The proof is apparent in the fierce competition anticipated this summer in camp to fill out the roster.
RE: If anybody  
Jay on the Island : 6/18/2017 6:58 pm : link
In comment 13503174 XBRONX said:
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Thought Wheeler or Johnson were good they would have been drafted.

Great point. UDFA's never turn out to be good players except for Burfict, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, Damon Harrison, Victor Cruz, Rich Seubert, Priest Holmes, Jimmy Smith, Antonio Pierce,etc.
RE: Yes  
Jay on the Island : 6/18/2017 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13503334 XBRONX said:
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Okay. Wheeler is a stud despite his severe lack of strength.

Wow a rookie offensive linemen who needs to get stronger. That only applies to 99% of the rookie offensive line class.
We see  
XBRONX : 6/18/2017 7:10 pm : link
who is correct come September.
By the way  
XBRONX : 6/18/2017 7:19 pm : link
there is getting stronger and only doing 15 reps at the combine.
RE: By the way  
Jay on the Island : 6/18/2017 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13503432 XBRONX said:
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there is getting stronger and only doing 15 reps at the combine.

There is a reason why players don't get drafted. Lack of talent wasn't the reason Wheeler or Jarron Jones went undrafted. Are they gong to be NFL starters? Chances aren't great but the talent is there. Jones will not make the team due to the position switch but if he does make the practice squad that will be a very good sign for a player so raw.
RE: RE: We'll see in training camp  
ctc in ftmyers : 6/18/2017 7:39 pm : link
In comment 13503418 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13503416 ctc in ftmyers said:


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when they aren't playing in pajamas.


And then in training camp, we'll have to wait until the real games start when they aren't going up against backups....


Agree 100%. Hope they sort themselves out in camp. What we a front office and coaches for.
RE: We see  
map7711 : 6/18/2017 7:48 pm : link
In comment 13503431 XBRONX said:
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who is correct come September.


Not sure if you mean to come off as douchy as you do. Maybe it's just how you come off on-line?
mapp  
XBRONX : 6/18/2017 8:44 pm : link
You another so called expert or just a jerk?
I think the new cutdown rules make it unlikely that any UDFAs  
Ivan15 : 6/19/2017 7:53 am : link
Will get picked up for the active roster by other teams.

More likely that UDFA cuts will join the practice squads of other teams.

It will be like the post-draft frenzy all over again.
Who said he was a 'stud'?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/19/2017 9:14 am : link
You're pretty lousy at this.
RE: We'll see in training camp  
BMac : 6/19/2017 12:16 pm : link
In comment 13503416 ctc in ftmyers said:
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when they aren't playing in pajamas.


Dr. Denton's?
RE: Roster turnover is amazing in the NFL  
djm : 6/19/2017 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13503419 The_Boss said:
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Just 2 years ago, Bucky Brooks and PFF rated the total talent on the NYG roster as bottom tiered. Now? This might be one of the 5-7 most complete rosters in the sport. The proof is apparent in the fierce competition anticipated this summer in camp to fill out the roster.


It isn't always that easy. Giants just happened to be coming off two-three straight rebuilding seasons where they didn't spend much long term money and picked high in the draft for three straight years. Then they nailed the 2016 off-season to near perfection and look to have had another good one this year. This didn't happen by accident although I get your point. This certainly isn't the 80s anymore.
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