Colin Kaepernick's job prospects

I hope he blew all his money and doesn't see another dime from the NFL.

Heez so much bettah then deez udder backup korterbaks hoo ar getting sined

Colin is just being blacklisted by the big bad stoogy NFL establishment.

He's an idiot. That's why he's unemployed. If you can play qb at a relatively respectable level you will get a job unless you act like an idiot. Colin isn't a victim he's making his own bed here.

1. Whether or not Kaepernick has the right to voice these opinions and whether these opinions have some justification are separate questions from the following question: Is he being prudent?

Clear answer is no.

2. There are many folks on this board who are likely enjoying Kaepernick's continued unemployment.

3. There are many here, who likely have family or friends in law enforcement, who see Kaepernick's comments as incredibly offensive personal attacks.

4. This thread won't add a thing. What is likely to follow is the same sorry rehearsal of arguments past. I thought for a while that the banning of political threads on BBI was a poor idea, but I've come around to agreeing with Eric on this. The threads, in their recent iterations (I'm thinking the last 4-5 years), add more heat than light.

5. There used to be a time when there were a set of posters who would consistently elevate the discussion in these sorts of threads. They have left. When they were here, it was possible to learn something. Now, BBI political threads are most useful as political litmus tests. I'm one of those coastal elites for whom November 2016 was supposed to be a comeuppance. I come around to BBI to get a clearer picture of what people outside the northeastern bubble think and say.

The NFL. Hie is considered a poison pill to any perspective team needing a qb. He will never be signed.

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Even though not everyone would agree, I doubt they would have a problem with that.

Then he goes on to demonize an entire, multiracial group of people, the vast majority of whom have never engaged in the conduct that outraged him. Face palm.

Why?

1) I like police officers
2) I respect and thank our military
3) Could not believe the 49'rs and NFL let him protest at games on national tv

With that said, he exercised his rights and now other NFL teams are exercising there rights.

So in the end it all balances out. He's getting what he asked for.

In comment 13503622 Ash_3 said:

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1. Whether or not Kaepernick has the right to voice these opinions and whether these opinions have some justification are separate questions from the following question: Is he being prudent? Clear answer is no. 2. There are many folks on this board who are likely enjoying Kaepernick's continued unemployment. 3. There are many here, who likely have family or friends in law enforcement, who see Kaepernick's comments as incredibly offensive personal attacks. 4. This thread won't add a thing. What is likely to follow is the same sorry rehearsal of arguments past. I thought for a while that the banning of political threads on BBI was a poor idea, but I've come around to agreeing with Eric on this. The threads, in their recent iterations (I'm thinking the last 4-5 years), add more heat than light. 5. There used to be a time when there were a set of posters who would consistently elevate the discussion in these sorts of threads. They have left. When they were here, it was possible to learn something. Now, BBI political threads are most useful as political litmus tests. I'm one of those coastal elites for whom November 2016 was supposed to be a comeuppance. I come around to BBI to get a clearer picture of what people outside the northeastern bubble think and say.

Ash, with respect, I think that you're coming to the wrong place to sate that particular interest. While there is some diversity here, we are still largely that northeastern bubble even for members where geography might suggest otherwise. On the specific topic, I think that most people here and I would hope outside the bubble, would see tragedy and potential injustice in Minnesota. Where Kaepernick (and many others )err, IMO, is in extrapolating the anger to cover any police officer anywhere. Personally, I think much of him being unemployed currently is due to the tripartite balances between needs of the team, his ability, and potential distractions not being in his favor. I also think that the balance is such that he is one good injury away from being signed.

Who?

In comment 13503664 Bill L said:

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In comment 13503622 Ash_3 said: Quote: 1. Whether or not Kaepernick has the right to voice these opinions and whether these opinions have some justification are separate questions from the following question: Is he being prudent? Clear answer is no. 2. There are many folks on this board who are likely enjoying Kaepernick's continued unemployment. 3. There are many here, who likely have family or friends in law enforcement, who see Kaepernick's comments as incredibly offensive personal attacks. 4. This thread won't add a thing. What is likely to follow is the same sorry rehearsal of arguments past. I thought for a while that the banning of political threads on BBI was a poor idea, but I've come around to agreeing with Eric on this. The threads, in their recent iterations (I'm thinking the last 4-5 years), add more heat than light. 5. There used to be a time when there were a set of posters who would consistently elevate the discussion in these sorts of threads. They have left. When they were here, it was possible to learn something. Now, BBI political threads are most useful as political litmus tests. I'm one of those coastal elites for whom November 2016 was supposed to be a comeuppance. I come around to BBI to get a clearer picture of what people outside the northeastern bubble think and say. Ash, with respect, I think that you're coming to the wrong place to sate that particular interest. While there is some diversity here, we are still largely that northeastern bubble even for members where geography might suggest otherwise. On the specific topic, I think that most people here and I would hope outside the bubble, would see tragedy and potential injustice in Minnesota. Where Kaepernick (and many others )err, IMO, is in extrapolating the anger to cover any police officer anywhere. Personally, I think much of him being unemployed currently is due to the tripartite balances between needs of the team, his ability, and potential distractions not being in his favor. I also think that the balance is such that he is one good injury away from being signed.

Unless he comes out with a huge apology to this, I can't see any team wanting the heat that would come with his signing. I would imagine every police union and police supporters would call for a boycott of the NFL and the team that signs him and with good cause. From pig socks, to kneeling for the anthem, to Fidel Castro supporting tee shirts and Black Panther/Nation of Islam worshiping this guy is bad news.

In comment 13503675 HoustonGiant said:

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Who?

Colin Kaepernicus.

He postulated the theory that the Earth revolves around his afro.

Shaun King wrote last week how if Kaepernick isn't on an NFL roster because the powerful white NFL owners don't want him, he's boycotting the 2017 season....what a cock.

As most of you know, I was a big Kap supporter coming out of college. He actually ended signing with an agency that represented me at the time. Things were going good for the youngster, then, off-field distractions. If you look at his girlfriend and current "advisers," you could see where he underwent his radical change. The guy turned into a pariah and his downward tumble has now led to his latest ridiculous "words of wisdom." Sadly, he enters that place in life called the NFL trash heap, wasting a career that saw the likes of Ryan Leaf, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell forsake their athletic ability for endeavors off the field that soon led to their professional extinction. Kap, look in the mirror buddy, you were the one that created your own monster. You now have to realize, as Jim Morrison said, "this is the end, my friend."

In comment 13503630 njm said:

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Even though not everyone would agree, I doubt they would have a problem with that. Then he goes on to demonize an entire, multiracial group of people, the vast majority of whom have never engaged in the conduct that outraged him. Face palm.

Exactly. His odds of getting an NFL job were long to begin with, they are virtually nonexistent now.

helping those left fortunate. I mean thats his passion. Go with it.

Fuck football and do what you are built to do.

All this talk about being blackballed is stupid. His head isnt in the game. Its in helping people.

No, you're not, No you're not, No you're not

Maybe Dr. Dre can sign him

In comment 13503696 nflscouting said:

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As most of you know, I was a big Kap supporter coming out of college. He actually ended signing with an agency that represented me at the time. Things were going good for the youngster, then, off-field distractions. If you look at his girlfriend and current "advisers," you could see where he underwent his radical change. The guy turned into a pariah and his downward tumble has now led to his latest ridiculous "words of wisdom." Sadly, he enters that place in life called the NFL trash heap, wasting a career that saw the likes of Ryan Leaf, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell forsake their athletic ability for endeavors off the field that soon led to their professional extinction. Kap, look in the mirror buddy, you were the one that created your own monster. You now have to realize, as Jim Morrison said, "this is the end, my friend."

Hope it's not a Tank Black situation. Ike Hilliard did enough suffering for the world on that one.

LOL

In comment 13503729 RobCrossRiver56 said:

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No, you're not, No you're not, No you're not Maybe Dr. Dre can sign him

I hated that ad. Thanks a lot for reminding me of it lol

a CFL team will sign him...

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He hurt himself while the plus side is that no black player will ever speak up again - and nor should they. They are being paid millions of dollars to damage their brains so they aren't the smartest tools in the shed anyway.

I doubt that they want a player use the NFL as as platform for his own personal political agenda.

prospects, I truly believe that if he didn't suck he'd be on a roster right now.

He's just not good enough to get away with this kind of shit. Mike Vick electrocuted dogs for fun and profit and found another job again, but this guy will rot on a sideline because his performance doesn't merit taking on the giant PR shitstorm that his signing would accompany.

was BS and person being real knows that .... but people are what he should have done was bow down ignore etc

How about the system does the right thing for a change?

In comment 13503839 LCtheINTMachine said:

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He hurt himself while the plus side is that no black player will ever speak up again - and nor should they. They are being paid millions of dollars to damage their brains so they aren't the smartest tools in the shed anyway.

I was with you the first 6 words of your post... then you went full on dumbass on me.

In comment 13503854 jcn56 said:

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prospects, I truly believe that if he didn't suck he'd be on a roster right now. He's just not good enough to get away with this kind of shit. Mike Vick electrocuted dogs for fun and profit and found another job again, but this guy will rot on a sideline because his performance doesn't merit taking on the giant PR shitstorm that his signing would accompany.

I have to agree. Jerry Jones would hire him in a heartbeat if he was any good. His comments are so ridiculous and hypocritical because a large part of his argument is against profiling and stereotyping yet that is exactly what he is doing when he puts all the police in the same basket.

He's an idiot!

In comment 13503881 nicky43 said:

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In comment 13503854 jcn56 said: Quote: prospects, I truly believe that if he didn't suck he'd be on a roster right now. He's just not good enough to get away with this kind of shit. Mike Vick electrocuted dogs for fun and profit and found another job again, but this guy will rot on a sideline because his performance doesn't merit taking on the giant PR shitstorm that his signing would accompany. I have to agree. Jerry Jones would hire him in a heartbeat if he was any good. His comments are so ridiculous and hypocritical because a large part of his argument is against profiling and stereotyping yet that is exactly what he is doing when he puts all the police in the same basket. He's an idiot!

Agree 100%.

In comment 13503839 LCtheINTMachine said:

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He hurt himself while the plus side is that no black player will ever speak up again - and nor should they. They are being paid millions of dollars to damage their brains so they aren't the smartest tools in the shed anyway.

Yeesh, where to start on this post...

he's in an entertainment/consumer facing industry, and you live with what you do to your image when that is your line of work.

I'd just remind all the people reveling in his unemployment not to complain when people get fired or shamed for saying things that you agree with or at least dont think are a big deal. It's tough to bemoan the big bad PC thought police and then feel like CK is rightly cast out of the NFL. No selective snow flaking.

In comment 13503854 jcn56 said:

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prospects, I truly believe that if he didn't suck he'd be on a roster right now. He's just not good enough to get away with this kind of shit. Mike Vick electrocuted dogs for fun and profit and found another job again, but this guy will rot on a sideline because his performance doesn't merit taking on the giant PR shitstorm that his signing would accompany.

this 10000000%

In comment 13503863 MotownGIANTS said:

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was BS and person being real knows that .... but people are what he should have done was bow down ignore etc How about the system does the right thing for a change?

You're making the same mistake he did. See my 9:53. If he had just talked about the verdict this thread wouldn't exist.

In comment 13503903 njm said:

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In comment 13503863 MotownGIANTS said: Quote: was BS and person being real knows that .... but people are what he should have done was bow down ignore etc How about the system does the right thing for a change? You're making the same mistake he did. See my 9:53. If he had just talked about the verdict this thread wouldn't exist.

Slightly disagree with this njm as his point is that this particular verdict has become all too commonplace. But where I agree is that he needs to stop painting ALL law enforcement officers with the same broad stroke. That's where his message is fucked up and coming out a day or two (or never at all) later and saying 'I of course didn't mean all law enforcement' is too late.

In comment 13503889 Deej said:

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he's in an entertainment/consumer facing industry, and you live with what you do to your image when that is your line of work. I'd just remind all the people reveling in his unemployment not to complain when people get fired or shamed for saying things that you agree with or at least dont think are a big deal. It's tough to bemoan the big bad PC thought police and then feel like CK is rightly cast out of the NFL. No selective snow flaking.

I certainly don't revel in it. I'm trying to be as dispassionate as possible. I have a very strict rule about not supporting someone being fired for things they say. I think you should be say anything that you want and not be fired. However, I do also recognize the right of companies to do so, but I still side with the employee. At the same time, I think it's perfectly fine to not hire someone (as opposed to firing) which is more the case here, and I vigorously support, as consumers, using purchasing power to demonstrate your views on acceptability of what was said.

Seriously

he was the one who opted out of his contract. I never want to see a man suffer, in his case I hope it is just a little. My daughter is looking to go into law enforcement. I too love our men and women in the military. He was adopted by a loving white family, who afforded him a quality up bringing he has said as much many times. Instead of trying to figure out ways to bring people together he has and is continuing to do nothing but to create further divides. I am sick of him and sick of people just like him in society. The fact he is still out of work as a sub-par QB does not surprise me in the least. People trying to use his protesting as an excuse for his lack of a job surprises me even less. He stinks, Arena football, flag football here he comes.

In comment 13503910 T-Bone said:

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In comment 13503903 njm said: Quote: In comment 13503863 MotownGIANTS said: Quote: was BS and person being real knows that .... but people are what he should have done was bow down ignore etc How about the system does the right thing for a change? You're making the same mistake he did. See my 9:53. If he had just talked about the verdict this thread wouldn't exist. Slightly disagree with this njm as his point is that this particular verdict has become all too commonplace. But where I agree is that he needs to stop painting ALL law enforcement officers with the same broad stroke. That's where his message is fucked up and coming out a day or two (or never at all) later and saying 'I of course didn't mean all law enforcement' is too late.

Exactly. Nothing is absolute.

All I can say is you are not a good cop because you don't directly take place in these murders ... but when you are complicit and mute about CRIMES being committed against the public as standing by your "brothers in blue" then you are a bad cop and ok with profiling due to income levels, racism and murder to say the least.

out of a job, now he is working on insuring that he could never come back. Complete fool and being used as a political tool that could care less about him and the cause he stands for. Young fools never get the meaning of the real game.

Particularly against the elevated level seen against unarmed minorities. So with that, it's a shame that Kaepernick has become one of the main faces of that movement.

What an awful dude.

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He's just not good enough to get away with this kind of shit. Mike Vick electrocuted dogs for fun and profit and found another job again, but this guy will rot on a sideline because his performance doesn't merit taking on the giant PR shitstorm that his signing would accompany.

I disagree with this analogy. What Vick did could be quantified as an awful endeavor that ultimately came to a close. Whether or not NFL decided to forgive him is not the point. Ultimately that choice was presented to them as what Vick did became an event from the past.

With Kaepernick, what he's doing is a perpetual ideology that can rear it's head any time he speaks, and an ideology he makes no apologies about. It's ongoing. That's the key difference in why Vick got a job again and Kaep may never.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

This latest shooting and the last high profile shooting in Charlotte was a Mexican and an African American cop shooting a black man. Does this even fit into his reason for protesting considering the cops are "people of color"?

In comment 13503629 Trainmaster said:

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This. But is he qualified?

As a political hot take asshole. He's going for shock and awe, retweets and to get his name out there. He's smarter than everybody is giving him credit for. Still a disingenuous asshole thats angling for a trolling career, but not dumb.

In comment 13503977 giant24 said:

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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." This latest shooting and the last high profile shooting in Charlotte was a Mexican and an African American cop shooting a black man. Does this even fit into his reason for protesting considering the cops are "people of color"?

i have been saying for awhile. You generalize all cops because of the actions of 3 or 10 cops. That isnt right.

In comment 13503977 giant24 said:

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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." This latest shooting and the last high profile shooting in Charlotte was a Mexican and an African American cop shooting a black man. Does this even fit into his reason for protesting considering the cops are "people of color"?

Yes... it does. Because, as some police officers will tell you, the only color they see is blue. The race of the officer doesn't matter one bit... good and bad apples come in all the different races. And most black folks will tell you that it's actually the minority cops who are a lot worse than the white ones.

In comment 13504029 T-Bone said:

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In comment 13503977 giant24 said: Quote: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." This latest shooting and the last high profile shooting in Charlotte was a Mexican and an African American cop shooting a black man. Does this even fit into his reason for protesting considering the cops are "people of color"? Yes... it does. Because, as some police officers will tell you, the only color they see is blue. The race of the officer doesn't matter one bit... good and bad apples come in all the different races. And most black folks will tell you that it's actually the minority cops who are a lot worse than the white ones.

A lot worse in what way? Racist?

In comment 13504033 giant24 said:

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In comment 13504029 T-Bone said: Quote: In comment 13503977 giant24 said: Quote: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." This latest shooting and the last high profile shooting in Charlotte was a Mexican and an African American cop shooting a black man. Does this even fit into his reason for protesting considering the cops are "people of color"? Yes... it does. Because, as some police officers will tell you, the only color they see is blue. The race of the officer doesn't matter one bit... good and bad apples come in all the different races. And most black folks will tell you that it's actually the minority cops who are a lot worse than the white ones. A lot worse in what way? Racist?

No, with regards to police brutality.

Not sure whether this has been your experience or not, but the African American LEOs I know say that they get treated much, much worse by black citizens than their white colleagues. All the name-calling in the book, physical resistance, what have you.

In comment 13504057 T-Bone said:

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In comment 13504033 giant24 said: Quote: In comment 13504029 T-Bone said: Quote: In comment 13503977 giant24 said: Quote: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." This latest shooting and the last high profile shooting in Charlotte was a Mexican and an African American cop shooting a black man. Does this even fit into his reason for protesting considering the cops are "people of color"? Yes... it does. Because, as some police officers will tell you, the only color they see is blue. The race of the officer doesn't matter one bit... good and bad apples come in all the different races. And most black folks will tell you that it's actually the minority cops who are a lot worse than the white ones. A lot worse in what way? Racist? No, with regards to police brutality.

Thats interesting. Why do they say or do you think that is the case?