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| Carter also informed Beckham not to address his contract publicly. Even if he does find himself frustrated with his current compensation, Carter has told OBJ to just go play ball because that’s what Jerry Rice — the literal greatest of all-time — would do. “If I was him, this would be my best year and I’m trying to rip the league up, then I think we could come to a resolution,” Carter said. |
Yeah. I love the posturing like he has to do more to be great. Guy is skullfucking the record books.
he's almost becoming underrated at this point. we have the human real world equivalent of Spiderman playing WR. Enjoy it.
and was provoked almost as badly as that carolina debacle. it's a huge part of Norman's game... because he is beyond overrated as a "shut down corner"
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It's kinda the same thing with media coverage. The average fan only wants to hear stories about the superstars of the sport. They don't care about the center and the punter. They want to hear what OBJ has been up to and if he hasn't done anything newsworthy lately, they'll settle for a talking head's opinion about OBJ.
I don't care if you're BBI royalty, you're a dipshit so stop being a homer. Carter is a HOFer and he's earned the right to offer feedback and advice.
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Great point.
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Well, unlike Carter, he won't have to "maturate" from Drugs (?) and alcohol, so there's that
I don't care if you're BBI royalty, you're a dipshit so stop being a homer. Carter is a HOFer and he's earned the right to offer feedback and advice.
Whoa...that escalated.
As far as Carter earning the right to offer feedback and advice, sure he can offer both. And the rest of us can tell Carter to go pound sand. Just likely BB56 can as well, but he's too classy to tell you...unlike yourself.
Eh...we can commend him for overcoming his demons with drugs and alcohol. However, just because he was able to exercise those demons don't necessarily make him a man of wisdom. I mean, he is the guy, who said others should have a fall guy. Not sure how mature that is as oppose to just knowing how to watch out for #1. Some may call that maturity, some may call that being a selfish dick. You pick.
That was my big takeaway, it isn't 2016 anymore.
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And performed well.
That was my big takeaway, it isn't 2016 anymore.
But people will always bring it up to fit their narrative no matter what.
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Merits at least a little bit of a nod. Giants fans have seen that such things can derail a career to say the very least. The people who have overcome those kinds of maturation issues are the ones who should be heard from.
Eh...we can commend him for overcoming his demons with drugs and alcohol. However, just because he was able to exercise those demons don't necessarily make him a man of wisdom. I mean, he is the guy, who said others should have a fall guy. Not sure how mature that is as oppose to just knowing how to watch out for #1. Some may call that maturity, some may call that being a selfish dick. You pick.
It's a different universe when you are an athlete. As shitty as it sounds to us normal civilians, but ultimately it's a sad reality of the world athletes and entertainers live in.
Of course, but I don't necessarily buy that Cris Carter really has much of a wisdom to pass onto OBJ just because he beat his drug and alcohol demons. When and if OBJ goes that route, what Carter says may matter. However, Carter is a loudmouth asshole from everything I've read about him, so once again, what maturity do we see from him that makes him someone OBJ should emulate other than that he's a Hall of Famer?
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It's a different universe when you are an athlete. As shitty as it sounds to us normal civilians, but ultimately it's a sad reality of the world athletes and entertainers live in.
Of course, but I don't necessarily buy that Cris Carter really has much of a wisdom to pass onto OBJ just because he beat his drug and alcohol demons. When and if OBJ goes that route, what Carter says may matter. However, Carter is a loudmouth asshole from everything I've read about him, so once again, what maturity do we see from him that makes him someone OBJ should emulate other than that he's a Hall of Famer?
I wouldn't suggest anyone emulate Cris Carter, to be clear. But as someone who came into the league in the spotlight, could not handle it, fell apart, was able to come back from that, and still have a hall of fame career, he's clearly seen and faced some of the same potential hazards and probably been faced with a lot of the same forks in the road as Beckham has or will. You can certainly gain something from hearing the perspective of a hall of fame great who also made plenty of life mistakes. I don't see why anyone would dismiss it.
No matter how one tries to frame the reaching out to Carter that, the overarching theme of OBJ reaching out for guidance to numerous folks is only positive.
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It's a different universe when you are an athlete. As shitty as it sounds to us normal civilians, but ultimately it's a sad reality of the world athletes and entertainers live in.
Of course, but I don't necessarily buy that Cris Carter really has much of a wisdom to pass onto OBJ just because he beat his drug and alcohol demons. When and if OBJ goes that route, what Carter says may matter. However, Carter is a loudmouth asshole from everything I've read about him, so once again, what maturity do we see from him that makes him someone OBJ should emulate other than that he's a Hall of Famer?
I wouldn't suggest anyone emulate Cris Carter, to be clear. But as someone who came into the league in the spotlight, could not handle it, fell apart, was able to come back from that, and still have a hall of fame career, he's clearly seen and faced some of the same potential hazards and probably been faced with a lot of the same forks in the road as Beckham has or will. You can certainly gain something from hearing the perspective of a hall of fame great who also made plenty of life mistakes. I don't see why anyone would dismiss it.
Because some of us aren't nearly as scared of what OBJ may become based on his first three years in the league that many seem to fear. For that reason, Cris Carter isn't someone I want OBJ to listen to, especially about getting himself a fall guy.
People like to somehow put OBJ and Cris Carter in the same category as people. That is yet to be seen, and honestly, I don't see it.
I've seen less diving at an Olympic competition.
and this is clear cut evidence that Beckham is about to go off the deep end!
Yes, often overconfidence and youth go hand in hand, especially when you are at the top of your game. But I don't believe that it's necessarily true that a person (HoFer in this case), who's made mistake is always the wiser person than a person, who stayed out of trouble. And in this case, I don't believe that Cris Carter necessarily became a better, more mature person as much as a more savvy person, who can cover his own ass from getting caught doing stupid shit.
And I believe that OBJ can learn more from guys like Larry Fitzgerald than someone like Cris Carter.
Derek Jeter wasn't some chaste angel. He was just really, really good at keeping his personal stuff personal. It's harder to do now than it was in 1998, granted.
Amen.
Chris Carter is at the top of Mount Fullashit
Haven't you been saying the exact thing since basically forever?
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Yes, Cris Carter should definitely be looked at as a wonderful resource for young wide receivers. After all, he did such a great job mentoring his own son... Link - ( New Window )
Haven't you been saying the exact thing since basically forever?
About Carter? I haven't said much about him, but I think Ismail's quote says enough. Carter is a clown that is looking to keep himself in front of a camera, nothing more.
I don't see what's wrong with telling him to focus on doing his job and not letting the other stuff take him off his game.
IE leave the NY Giants.
IE leave the NY Giants.
To the point several others are making - one what planet is OBJ not realizing his potential already? Through 3 seasons, he's essentially delivered the best performance by a WR ever.
Sure there are things he can improve...but Carter is acting as if OBJ is broken and needs fixing. Which is stupid.
"Get out of NY."
Cris Carter has always hated the Giants, this is a known fact.