Should be some epically good television. The finale will run 16 minutes longer than usual.
Any thoughts? Predictions? With the outside chance the show doesn't get picked up for season 4, do you think this has a chance to include more closure than previous finales?
Ive had that feeling too...seems like they've been setting him up for tragedy, as the bad guy trying to do a good thing for his father, but he's gone too far to resurrect himself now
They've really stepped up how much Jimmy is crossing the lines of decency in becoming Saul in recent weeks...I suspect things come to a head with Chuck where Jimmy crosses a point of no return
Should be great TV regardless of what happens
If anyone of note dies tonight, I'm betting that it's Chuck.
This I agree with.
Isn't Nacho referenced once during BB as if he's alive? In Saul's first episode, when Walt and Jesse kidnap him and take him out to the desert, Saul references an Ignacio. That could be our Nacho, or it could mean nothing
Either way, I hope he's not gone. His scenes are great, could even say he's been underutilized.
Yea I don't think Kim kills herself at this point, but lung cancer was definitely my thought for awhile with her.
I think Nacho has one more season before he bites it, definitely hope hector finds the wheelchair soon.
All I know is this season has been awesome by every measure. The closer the story gets to intertwining with BB, the more the intensity heats up. Gilligan is doing an awesome job here and I'm guessing he tries to get as much out of these characters as he can.
The patience and attention to the little details shown by Gilligan and his group is just amazing. They give you just enough pieces from the BB universe to keep that intensity going, while also continuing to demonstrate Jimmy's path towards his own breaking bad. It's just been fantastic.
I can see that.
I wouldn't be shocked in the least bit if after the episode you hear there will be one more 16 episode season similar to season 5 of Breaking Bad and that they are shifting the show to the fall season for added viewership. Breaking Bad each season started later and later into the year starting in January, then March, then July with the final season starting in August. Better Call Saul has already gone from a February start to April start this year, my guess is next year its moved to the fall Season to get more viewers.
I can definitely see it happening at some point.
Remember Ken the shlub stock trader Kim and Jimmy scammed? WW blew up his car in BB after Ken stole his parking spot.
I'm kind of expecting more and more cameos in passing like that at this point.
And no chance in hell do they wrap Kim, Chuck, Nacho, Hector, all in this finale. Some of these storylines should definitely make it to next season. I hope Chuck is done though, he just annoys me.
Nacho would be the natural person to take over if Hector were to have his stroke.
Next season would then show how Nacho runs the show, and Tuco taking over and eventually killing him before we get to BB.
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so don't know if this could have been confirmed or not already (and don't want to know), but I've wondered if we could see an unexpected appearance by Walt or Jessie at some point too. That would be pretty cool
I can definitely see it happening at some point.
Remember Ken the shlub stock trader Kim and Jimmy scammed? WW blew up his car in BB after Ken stole his parking spot.
I'm kind of expecting more and more cameos in passing like that at this point.
And no chance in hell do they wrap Kim, Chuck, Nacho, Hector, all in this finale. Some of these storylines should definitely make it to next season. I hope Chuck is done though, he just annoys me.
Agree about Chuck - Michael McKean has delivered a great acting performance...but he's gotten so much air time that at this point I think many of us are kinda over that storyline
Tuco.
Tuco.
Interesting theory - considering we know Tuco ends up re-establishing himself as a dealer, and taking care of an invalid Hector. It's possible he ends up seeking revenge on Nacho for whatever role he plays in what happens to Hector
What a guy. Hope this is the end for him..
hector gets knocked down a peg
lame to have absolutely no mike
Honestly to this point Jimmy is more sympathetic than anything despite the fact that Talking Dead and the like refer to his dark nature.
Beezer : 5/11/2017 10:22 am : link
Lantern.
Foreshadowing with the photo at the hearing, lantern on top of papers ... a bg deal is made, in retrospect, about how beautiful Chuck's VERY wooden home interior is.
That's how I read that scene...but of course there could be more to it as well.
Brilliant acting from McKean during his final meltdown, wow.
And I found the turn of events with Kim and Jimmy to be interesting...she finally stops to think for a minute, and gives up trying to do the work of 10 lawyers...while at the same time, Jimmy has a final rush of conscience and sets in motion the loss of his share of the settlement bc he realizes what an awful thing he did to the old lady.
Which sets up the need for Jimmy to turn Saul next season to support both of them I bet
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and reputation with his regular clientele?
That's how I read that scene...but of course there could be more to it as well.
Brilliant acting from McKean during his final meltdown, wow.
And I found the turn of events with Kim and Jimmy to be interesting...she finally stops to think for a minute, and gives up trying to do the work of 10 lawyers...while at the same time, Jimmy has a final rush of conscience and sets in motion the loss of his share of the settlement bc he realizes what an awful thing he did to the old lady.
Which sets up the need for Jimmy to turn Saul next season to support both of them I bet
Jimmy didn't lose his share of the settlement. His actions simply induced the class to pull their agreement to settle.
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and reputation with his regular clientele?
That's how I read that scene...but of course there could be more to it as well.
Brilliant acting from McKean during his final meltdown, wow.
And I found the turn of events with Kim and Jimmy to be interesting...she finally stops to think for a minute, and gives up trying to do the work of 10 lawyers...while at the same time, Jimmy has a final rush of conscience and sets in motion the loss of his share of the settlement bc he realizes what an awful thing he did to the old lady.
Which sets up the need for Jimmy to turn Saul next season to support both of them I bet
Jimmy didn't lose his share of the settlement. His actions simply induced the class to pull their agreement to settle.
Yup you are right. Point being, he took action that cost him his money, to fix the mess he made
Jimmy isn't a bad guy and he proved it last night, but he's capable of some pretty bad decisions and hurtful maneuvers.
I'm glad Kim turned it around. Don't know what to make of Jimmy's turn around except his guilty conscience won out at his expense.
Thanks. I remember Gus saying he did not want a quick death, so I guess a heart attack is too quick for him. I'm sure Gus will be pleased though with the results of the heart attack.
One point about Jimmy....... doesn't Jimmy get it? Chuck doesn't like Jimmy. Just because they share the same blood doesn't mean they are brothers.
The later meeting where Gus talks about wanting Hector to suffer before he died was probably secondary. Ultimately, Gus is a pragmatist.
Yeah, I think so. The scene before she talks about how she was working on basically zero sleep and burning the candle at both ends. The next scene, Francesca is talking about how the meetings can still be scheduled, and for a second, Kim's lawyer brain switched back on and she almost picked it back up again. But then she caught herself - realized that redlining her system nearly got herself killed in the first place. So she was kinda like, "Screw this."
One thing I actually really like about this episode is how Jimmy really took to being a caring, compassionate boyfriend and Kim didn't didn't blame him for the accident at all.
I would bet chuck made sure his will says Jimmy gets nothing, but extremely good observation indeed that you made.
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So, does Chuck die in a fire?
Beezer : 5/11/2017 10:22 am : link
Lantern.
Foreshadowing with the photo at the hearing, lantern on top of papers ... a bg deal is made, in retrospect, about how beautiful Chuck's VERY wooden home interior is.
Boom, Bitches!
Now here is Chuck, looking pretty much back to normal since the hearing. But the very night Jimmy comes back looking to make amends. The very night after Chuck tells Jimmy "You've never really mattered that much to me" he can't stay asleep and falls into one last, very fatal, relapse. Jimmy did casue the downfall of Chuck, even if he didn't mean to.
It almost seems there is some serious guilt with Chuck towards Jimmy. It makes me wonder who was really "cooking the books" at their father's store. Could Chuck have taken from his parents (maybe for law school or something he thought was important) only to 'convince' himself all these years that it was Jimmy?
Nacho is Hector's right hand man. Hector and Gus, while working for the same boss, are rivals.
It's obvious, having seen BB, that Mike becomes a right hand man for Gus, but he doesn't replace Nacho, because Nacho is in the Hector faction.
The later meeting where Gus talks about wanting Hector to suffer before he died was probably secondary. Ultimately, Gus is a pragmatist.
Agree with this - as we know from BB, Gus ultimately plans to knock the cartel out of the box. They hinted as much showing the scene this season where he's looking at the laundry as a possible site for his own meth lab.
Taking out Hector now would be foolish, as it would bring greater attention from the cartel, and put at risk the long game he's playing to eventually kill them all.
That, and we also know the deep hatred he has for Hector...and wants to cause him suffering, not a quick death