for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

NFT: Bad Yanks News: Gleyber Torres needs TJS

LarmerTJR : 6/19/2017 3:38 pm
Breaking news from mlb.com, score.com....

Sucks.
Stupid head first slides.  
section125 : 6/19/2017 3:40 pm : link
They should be banned. Rarely is a player injured on a traditional feet first slide.
Good grief  
mfsd : 6/19/2017 3:42 pm : link
this season had turned sour in a hurry
Well I hope  
River : 6/19/2017 3:46 pm : link
this does not effect his stroke. Anyway I think this makes Frazier untouchable now. Even might get a call up now.
Wonder what the recovery timeframe is  
davek3698 : 6/19/2017 3:51 pm : link
for an infielder's non-throwing arm?
Non Throwing arm..right  
River : 6/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
I think I need a hot chocolate and to go pet a therapy dog right now.
RE: Wonder what the recovery timeframe is  
TheMick7 : 6/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13504094 davek3698 said:
Quote:
for an infielder's non-throwing arm?


Yankee PR release said they hope he's ready for the start of 2018 spring training!
Well, that sucks  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/19/2017 3:53 pm : link
...
Sorry Yankee fans  
Deej : 6/19/2017 3:54 pm : link
worth noting it is on his non-throwing arm.
Kay  
mitch300 : 6/19/2017 3:55 pm : link
as been complaining about this since Trout hurt himself. Concerned about Judge sliding head first. He has a point. Back in the day it was always feet first.
Someone needs to wrap Clint Frazier  
River : 6/19/2017 3:59 pm : link
in Bubble wrap.
.  
Danny Kanell : 6/19/2017 4:00 pm : link
Goddamnit
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKFUCK FUCK  
DennyInDenville : 6/19/2017 4:03 pm : link
He was just starting to Rake too


FUCKKKKKKKKKK
Fock .....  
Beer Man : 6/19/2017 4:06 pm : link
With all these focking injuries, this team is suddenly looking like the NY Giants of MLB.
We needed his ass 3rd Base  
Beer Man : 6/19/2017 4:07 pm : link
this year.
The worst part of this is  
River : 6/19/2017 4:07 pm : link
more Chase Headley.
RE: Non Throwing arm..right  
Beer Man : 6/19/2017 4:08 pm : link
In comment 13504096 River said:
Quote:
I think I need a hot chocolate and to go pet a therapy dog right now.
It was from a collision injury and not from throwing.
Motherfucker.  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2017 4:08 pm : link
Tommy John surgery was the first thing I thought when I saw the replay. Very awkward looking, and he was writhing in pain - you just knew something was torn in there. Fuck FUCK FUCK!

He's 20.  
RAIN : 6/19/2017 4:09 pm : link
Plenty of time. This will sharpen his resolve and add to his character. I'm half glass fulling the crap out of this to be sure, but I am disappointed.

been an unbelievably shitty week for the Yankees  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2017 4:12 pm : link
Horrible losses to bad teams and injuries galore.
Frazier should already be untouchable.  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2017 4:13 pm : link
He's a 30HR middle-of-the-lineup type. No way we should be dealing him for the #2/3/4 pitchers who seem to be available.
Why should Frazier be untouchable?  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2017 4:16 pm : link
They potentially have 5 excellent young OFs for three spots. Frazier is obviously closer to MLB than Rutherford and has a higher ceiling than Fowler, but I'd absolutely deal him in the right trade.
Yahoooooo!  
B in ALB : 6/19/2017 4:16 pm : link


- C. Headley
I just mean if the Coles or Quintanas are all that's out there.  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2017 4:20 pm : link
Freakin' Gleyber - feet first, dude.
Ugh  
Vin R : 6/19/2017 4:24 pm : link
.
RE: been an unbelievably shitty week for the Yankees  
Del Shofner : 6/19/2017 4:25 pm : link
In comment 13504130 Greg from LI said:
Quote:
Horrible losses to bad teams and injuries galore.


man, that is for sure ...
Thank God he;s not a pitcher  
Dave in Hoboken : 6/19/2017 4:25 pm : link
and it's not his throwing arm, either.

Kay said he'll be ready for spring training.
I'm guessing Cash will still want  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2017 4:27 pm : link
to get him some more time at AAA even if he is ready by spring training.
yeah, long term it's not a big deal  
Greg from LI : 6/19/2017 4:28 pm : link
But man, what a kick in the crotch. I was really looking forward to him shoving Headley aside in the second half.
Headley is fine batting left handed but sucks hitting  
blue2 : 6/19/2017 4:49 pm : link
right handed against lefties.
He wasn't coming up this year anyway  
Stan in LA : 6/19/2017 5:32 pm : link
So nothing lost except 1/2 season of development. No big deal.
It's been reported in a few different places  
bceagle05 : 6/19/2017 5:45 pm : link
that Torres was being groomed for the 3B job later this year. Yankee coaches wanted him on the team out of spring training. Cashman has been asked numerous times if Torres would be up sometime this year and has never ruled it out (remember, he did rule out the possibility of Torres on the opening day roster even after Didi got hurt). Not sure where your certainty is coming from.

This is not the end of the world by any means, but I'm guessing Torres would've been our starting 3B by August. He was already starting to go off in Scranton and it's only June.
RE: He wasn't coming up this year anyway  
BigBlueShock : 6/19/2017 5:47 pm : link
In comment 13504221 Stan in LA said:
Quote:
So nothing lost except 1/2 season of development. No big deal.

Wrong again.
Wish  
AcidTest : 6/19/2017 5:50 pm : link
him the best.
RE: He wasn't coming up this year anyway  
DennyInDenville : 6/19/2017 5:53 pm : link
In comment 13504221 Stan in LA said:
Quote:
So nothing lost except 1/2 season of development. No big deal.

Nah man he was most likely getting the call in August the latest but now it won't happen.

I've been watching Scranton and this guy is by FAR the best bat on the team and that's saying something. Him and Frazier really really really stand out from everyone else. Fowler and Austin look good too but you just see how ready Torres was to become a stud.

Insanely upset and horrible news.

Only silver linings are it came on a contact injury and it was to his non throwing elbow hopefully won't effect the swing..

I'd start him in aaa next season and call him up in June/July 2018. Massive blow.


This absolutely hurts greatly.
This just in ......Andujar Promoted to AAA  
River : 6/19/2017 5:56 pm : link
In tonights line up.
RE: This just in ......Andujar Promoted to AAA  
River : 6/19/2017 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13504243 River said:
Quote:
In tonights line up.

Wade ss
Fowler cf
Austin 1b
Choi dh
Frazier rf
Andujar 3b
Cave lf
Solano 2b
Castillo c
RE: RE: He wasn't coming up this year anyway  
B in ALB : 6/19/2017 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13504232 BigBlueShock said:
Quote:
In comment 13504221 Stan in LA said:


Quote:


So nothing lost except 1/2 season of development. No big deal.


Wrong again.


The streak of being contrarian, dopey and feckless all at the same time continues for ol' Stanley.

He's like a ham n egger Radar.
RE: This just in ......Andujar Promoted to AAA  
DennyInDenville : 6/19/2017 5:58 pm : link
In comment 13504243 River said:
Quote:
In tonights line up.

That's cool, he will be interesting to track and hit the shit out of the ball in Trenton..

Maybe this means Wade or Andujar are in the mix to spell Headley
Also CC out 6 weeks..  
River : 6/19/2017 5:59 pm : link
Rains it pours. Maybe Adams gets the shot.
RE: Also CC out 6 weeks..  
DennyInDenville : 6/19/2017 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13504249 River said:
Quote:
Rains it pours. Maybe Adams gets the shot.

Where you seeing that??

The knew word is 6 weeks max now. CC says post all star break he will be all good and had the same injury last year but this one isn't nearly as bad.

That's from Suzan Waldman earlier on Bro&Ev
RE: Fock .....  
spike : 6/19/2017 6:03 pm : link
In comment 13504117 Beer Man said:
Quote:
With all these focking injuries, this team is suddenly looking like the NY Mets.


Fixed
RE: RE: Also CC out 6 weeks..  
River : 6/19/2017 6:05 pm : link
In comment 13504254 DennyInDenville said:
Quote:
In comment 13504249 River said:


Quote:


Rains it pours. Maybe Adams gets the shot.


Where you seeing that??

The knew word is 6 weeks max now. CC says post all star break he will be all good and had the same injury last year but this one isn't nearly as bad.

That's from Suzan Waldman earlier on Bro&Ev

here NBC Sports
link - ( New Window )
Plouffe  
River : 6/19/2017 6:08 pm : link
went to the Rays. Watch him become a good hitter again.
So is it time to move  
River : 6/19/2017 6:41 pm : link
Frazier to first base get in some practice in case Bird is bad news too?
saw the slide  
RasputinPrime : 6/19/2017 6:49 pm : link
and it looked bad. This isn't shocking news. Sucks.

The kid has alot to play for and hopefully has it between the ears to rehab this injury and get ready to win the 3B job next year.

Headley gets a temporary stay of execution.
RE: RE: Fock .....  
Beer Man : 6/19/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13504255 spike said:
Quote:
In comment 13504117 Beer Man said:


Quote:


With all these focking injuries, this team is suddenly looking like the NY Mets.



Fixed
Indeed
big hit for the kid  
micky : 6/19/2017 7:01 pm : link
Headley wasn't going anywhere this season anyway regardless of the kid
How likely is it that Andujar gets any time this year?  
manh george : 6/19/2017 7:05 pm : link
.312 at Trenton, but now he has to show he can handle AAA. And he's a baby--22, talented but not preternatural like Torres. (Since I was 4, I always wanted to use preternatural in a sentence.)
Headley hit .165 in May with a .441 OPS  
manh george : 6/19/2017 7:12 pm : link
He hit .281 in June, and after cooling off slightly, is .261 over the past 28 days. If this is "normal," then he is perfectly acceptable for the remainder of this season.
RE: How likely is it that Andujar gets any time this year?  
DennyInDenville : 6/19/2017 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13504306 manh george said:
Quote:
.312 at Trenton, but now he has to show he can handle AAA. And he's a baby--22, talented but not preternatural like Torres. (Since I was 4, I always wanted to use preternatural in a sentence.)

Decent chance imo. He has a stick, it's his glove.

.312 at Trenton is really like .330 that park is an insane pitchers park.
Andujar has some of the things the yankees like too  
River : 6/19/2017 7:26 pm : link
Bat speed and Exit Velocity. Friday he hit a Judge/Sanchez type rocket out.
Miguel Andujar  
River : 6/19/2017 7:29 pm : link
watch this one.
power bat. - ( New Window )
Didn't even look as if...  
manh george : 6/19/2017 7:54 pm : link
he got all of that.
RE: Andujar has some of the things the yankees like too  
DennyInDenville : 6/19/2017 8:24 pm : link
In comment 13504322 River said:
Quote:
Bat speed and Exit Velocity. Friday he hit a Judge/Sanchez type rocket out.

Yeah I noticed that as well.

Frazier, Torres and Andujar all have the best exit velo's if I'm
Not mistaken in our system
RE: He wasn't coming up this year anyway  
Tuckrule : 6/20/2017 6:11 am : link
In comment 13504221 Stan in LA said:
Quote:
So nothing lost except 1/2 season of development. No big deal.


Interesting view when in fact Kay said he expected him up after all star break
My guess would be that Andujar's erratic defense keeps him in AAA  
Greg from LI : 6/20/2017 8:43 am : link
He has a howitzer of an arm, but the rest of his defensive game leaves a lot to be desired at this point.
It's been mentioned in the thread ...  
Giant John : 6/20/2017 9:26 am : link
But it's NOT his throwing arm. That is huge and I am grateful.
RE: RE: He wasn't coming up this year anyway  
rich in DC : 6/20/2017 10:22 am : link
In comment 13504500 Tuckrule said:
Quote:
In comment 13504221 Stan in LA said:


Quote:


So nothing lost except 1/2 season of development. No big deal.



Interesting view when in fact Kay said he expected him up after all star break


In a kind of ironic way, it kind of benefits the Yanks in the long run. If the Yanks called him up after the trade deadline or All Star break, he would accumulate just under 3 months in the bigs.

In 2018, no one will question the Yanks if they send him to AAA to start the season for a month or two to "knock the rust off."

In so doing, the Yanks would be able to keep him for an extra year. Remember that in order to reach FA, a player needs 6 FULL seasons of ML time. Under the CBA, a full season is generally considered 170 days- which usually means that if a player misses more than 15-20 days in a season in the minors (not on an injury rehab, but after being optioned down), that does NOT count as a full season.

Thus, if the Yanks were to keep Torres in AAA until May, they would not only get the benefit of having him for most of 2018, but he would also NOT be eligible for FA until 2024.

Look for silver linings in dark clouds.
Back to the Corner