NFT: HUGE Nets/Lakers trade

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They thought he was going to be the next big Laker star.

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I like it though. Thats the only way we were getting rid of that Timothy contract. Now get rid of Deng

Tim Bontemps‏Verified account @TimBontemps
Tim Bontemps Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
The Lakers just cleared $23 million off their books for 2018. Add in the 27th pick and it's about 21 million.





Precursor to LeBron?

In comment 13505448 Anakim said:

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Tim Bontemps‏Verified account @TimBontemps Tim Bontemps Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski The Lakers just cleared $23 million off their books for 2018. Add in the 27th pick and it's about 21 million. Precursor to LeBron?

Or Paul George

but official.

The are getting the Lakers out of that mess plus giving them Lopez...

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Adrian Wojnarowski Retweeted Adrian Wojnarowski
For the Lakers, this is longer-term play to clear space for Paul George and LeBron James pursuit. Lonzo Ball on way at No.2

this means more wins for both the Nets and Lakers to help screw up the picks that Boston has

He sure managed to rub a LOT of people the wrong way in a short amount of time in LA.

Not sure I like this trade for LA. They have to trade their 2015 2nd overall to correct the mistake they made last summer? They must have a strong inclination they can get some major players next summer.

Wasn't a laker fan on the other thread arguing about offering DLo for Porzingis? So much for that....

Great trade for the Nets.

#Lakers on the books in summer of 18:

Clarkson: 12.5
Deng: 18
Ingram: 5.75
Nance: 2.2
Zubac: 1.54

Plus #2 (likely Ball) and #27 picks too





If they get rid of Deng, they could afford both LeBron and George

In comment 13505457 TyreeHelmet said:

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Not sure I like this trade for LA. They have to trade their 2015 2nd overall to correct the mistake they made last summer? They must have a strong inclination they can get some major players next summer. Wasn't a laker fan on the other thread arguing about offering DLo for Porzingis? So much for that.... Great trade for the Nets.

New regime, just isn't as high on Russell. And with Ball, Russell was going to have to be a SG. This frees up a ton of money for George and another FA. No brainer. And if they get George, him or Ingram are going to have to play SG. Russell likely a sixth man? But they already have Clarkson for that.

Will follow after the Lakers get George

But had to be done since the regime no longer here signed those awful contracts last offseason. I'm a big Dlo fan. I expect they will try to pair these late first round picks with a player to try to grab a second lottery pick.

Get a good shooting scoring talent for an expiring is a good deal for the nets who need assets.

I have always been a big Lopez fan but need to trade him as an expiring

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Then that's where Lebron goes in 2018

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better than the Knicks!

In comment 13505467 Earl the goat said:

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Will follow after the Lakers get George

What about Melo for Randle/ Deng/ Brewer? I'm not even sure I do this for the Knicks but it's interesting. Melo would have to agree to opt out next year but they could use his bird rights to go over the cap.

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Can the Lakers now land Paul George by offering Thursday's No. 27 and 28 picks and either Julius Randle or Jordan Clarkson? They're trying.

Really, really don't want to lose Randle, especially with Dlo now gone, but I don't see the team paying him the large contract he will deserve in today's NBA after next season.

effectively it's like them paying 20 million a year for Russell. Not a bargain, but they werent getting a player with his upside for 20 million on the market.

I think this really proves just how much you have to give up to get rid of a Mozgov, Noah, Deng like contract. I've been saying this on threads for a while -- there isnt precedent on how much it takes to buy off mistakes that bad. If anything I think the Lakers got out cheap, but the Nets are in a weird situation. Not desperate, but no avenue to get talent.

and see what he is. He could be a real piece.

and only going to improve. If the plan is George and Lebron though you have to find a way out of that Deng deal.

In comment 13505481 Deej said:

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and see what he is. He could be a real piece.

Its almost time to start paying him. So it might be the time to deal him if it gets Deng's contract moved.

Ball is the Laker's guy.

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Would have liked to see the Knicks pull off this trade. But the contracts don't really line up unless you could have done this at the deadline with Deose or get Melo to agree to a trade. But I think Russell is a great buy low player and could see him really flourishing in Brooklyn. Nice smart and creative trade for the Nets.

IMO there's no in between with the long term effects of this trade. We either get the two max superstars, or someone ends up getting fired at some point.

hope Lakers can land George now; keep making that gift pick to either the Celtics or Sixers worse. Same to the Nets, hope they land whatever free agents they can to pick up some cheap wins this year.

It might be but until Russell turns into a good player it's anything but a great trade. Nets gave up the best player in the deal and a draft pick AND took back a shitty contract. Russell better pan out here or it's a coup for the lakers. Why should I expect the lakers to lose on a trade with the nets.....

In comment 13505483 Rflairr said:

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In comment 13505481 Deej said: Quote: and see what he is. He could be a real piece. Its almost time to start paying him. So it might be the time to deal him if it gets Deng's contract moved.

Almost but not yet. He's an RFA next summer and I dont think he brings back appreciably less as an RFA. The league is starved for talent and he has real talent. Plus instead of dumping him to make cap space now, you'd wait to see if you need it. Maybe you dont. Maybe Deng recovers some value, and with just 2 years left you dont have to pay quite as much to move him.

Randle can do a lot of things. And he's a really hard working, committed guy. I think it's a mistake to trade him now just to be rid of Deng. Maybe for Paul George, but I dont really buy the appeal of trading for George. Lakers arent winning a title during George's prime. Chance it in UFA, where you're no worse than 50-50 to get him I think.

If he doesn't pan out then the Lakers scored big here with getting rid of the Moz deal. At the same time they shouldn't have been in this position to begin with.

If Dlo takes off then it is totally worth it for the Nets.

In comment 13505495 djm said:

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It might be but until Russell turns into a good player it's anything but a great trade. Nets gave up the best player in the deal and a draft pick AND took back a shitty contract. Russell better pan out here or it's a coup for the lakers. Why should I expect the lakers to lose on a trade with the nets.....

It's an access to upside that they otherwise lack. They have no ability to get a guy of Russell's talent/youth otherwise. I dont think it's great, but given their shitty situation, this is what you do -- eat a bad contract to get an upside player.

I think they should have gotten more, but I suspect that there are so many teams willing to go into rebuild now that it is a seller's market on shitty contracts to some degree.

a swift punch in the nose for taking on those awful contracts in the first place.

a year from now I don't see any team in the league helping the Lakers get Deng off the books if they think there is a chance that doing so gets Lebron in purple and gold.

I blame Jim for making the dumb winning deadline to begin with, which I think essentially made Mitch panic to put out at least a .500 team this season.

The trade has no downside unless you think the 27th pick is some great asset. Moz will be an expiring by the time the nets are relevant
Russell should do well with Atkinson

Lakers do this trade for Melo and throw in deng? U can have Melo for one year and you don't need to lose because you don't own your pick?

Seems like deng clarkson and one of those picks for Melo is a no brainer now

The Lakers

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Russell still has potential

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The trade has no downside unless you think the 27th pick is some great asset. Moz will be an expiring by the time the nets are relevant Russell should do well with Atkinson

Lol. Your team just:

1- gave up the best player in a trade
2- took on 3 years of Mozgov for like 50 million
3- gave a late #1, and
4- traded for a guy who is such a weeny that he made America feel bad for Nick Young for cheating on his fiancee (what happened to Mr. Culture?)

That's the sort of logic that some of my fellow Knicks fans used to argue for the Rose trade and Noah signing. It's bad logic.

He's pretty much committed to LA next summer?

tank and get the #2 pick then fuck that up and send him packing for parts to clear cap to hopefully land 2 big superstars and become contenders.

This league sucks.

PG has done his part to kill his trade value as much as a player possibly can without being a bad person doing bad things off the court. If the Lakers end up with George for late picks and a player(s) that they don't plan on paying after this season then it isn't a huge deal. I'd rather just wait a year though. Not like they can compete against the Warriors this year even with George.

In comment 13505529 UConn4523 said:

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tank and get the #2 pick then fuck that up and send him packing for parts to clear cap to hopefully land 2 big superstars and become contenders. This league sucks.

I think this league is awesome and the star power right now is off the charts. I'd rather watch a show on NBA rumors/draft talk than watch an MLB game, which is pretty much my only alternative right now.