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Deej : 6/21/2017 7:57 am
What happens in Vegas gets traded for futures in Vegas. Discuss.
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Dreger:  
pganut : 6/22/2017 12:31 pm : link
Done deal. Strome for Eberle.
Edmonton  
Mike in NY : 6/22/2017 12:35 pm : link
Seems to like our failed Top 5 draft picks. Next year do we trade them MDC?
I'd probably do that if I was the Islanders  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 12:35 pm : link
I like Strome's future, and Eberle costs more.

but Eberle on the Islanders is a 60-pt per year player.

Strome is fighting for minutes if he even makes the roster.



RE: Edmonton  
feelflows : 6/22/2017 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13507626 Mike in NY said:
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Seems to like our failed Top 5 draft picks. Next year do we trade them MDC?


don't sell MDC short yet.. first year as a pro and he looked good at the end of the season.

the last game I watched I got to concentrate on him because JHS was up. He got it.
Can't believe that got done straight-up.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/22/2017 12:36 pm : link
Chiarelli sucks. Good deal for the Islanders.
RE: I'd probably do that if I was the Islanders  
Mike in NY : 6/22/2017 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13507628 pjcas18 said:
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I like Strome's future, and Eberle costs more.

but Eberle on the Islanders is a 60-pt per year player.

Strome is fighting for minutes if he even makes the roster.




Also Eberle is a winger. Strome has done better at C and we have more depth at C
I really love Chiarelli  
pganut : 6/22/2017 12:37 pm : link
Thanks, dude.

Admittedly, I am a Strome fan and hate that Cappy misused him and killed his confidence. I definitely expect to see him do well in EDM. That said, the Isles just brought in a RW to play alongside JT who has proven to score at the rate we'd hoped Strome would. Effectively replaced "potential" with "proven".

Here's something else I like:
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Andy Graziano ‏ @AndyGraz_SNY 2m2 minutes ago
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#isles are still in on Matt Duchene, being told. Tougher deal to make but discussions continue.
Don't really understand this from the Oilers  
Anakim : 6/22/2017 12:39 pm : link
I guess they wanted to shed salarm but it's a downgrade.
RE: I really love Chiarelli  
feelflows : 6/22/2017 12:39 pm : link
In comment 13507637 pganut said:
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Thanks, dude.

Admittedly, I am a Strome fan and hate that Cappy misused him and killed his confidence. I definitely expect to see him do well in EDM. That said, the Isles just brought in a RW to play alongside JT who has proven to score at the rate we'd hoped Strome would. Effectively replaced "potential" with "proven".

Here's something else I like:

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Andy Graziano ‏ @AndyGraz_SNY 2m2 minutes ago
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#isles are still in on Matt Duchene, being told. Tougher deal to make but discussions continue.



Duchene would be a nice get. Even Galchenyuk (still). Eberle could be a L2 RW in that scenario. I'm cool with that.
*salary  
Anakim : 6/22/2017 12:40 pm : link
Fucking phone
Damnit, nice trade by the Isles  
Kyle in NY : 6/22/2017 12:42 pm : link
Eberle the latest very talented player to be traded by Chiarelli. It's quite an impressive list
RE: *salary  
Mike in NY : 6/22/2017 12:42 pm : link
In comment 13507647 Anakim said:
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Fucking phone


It also sounded like Eberle may have had the same relationship with management that KP/Phil Jackson have
Eberle had a bad playoff  
Kyle in NY : 6/22/2017 12:43 pm : link
So of course they deemed he had to go and sold low on him. It's not a surprise from that GM
I just want to have fun with this  
feelflows : 6/22/2017 12:44 pm : link
Isles trade:

G Reinhart
R Strome

to Edmonton for:

M Barzal
A Beauviller
J Eberle

sorry...that's hilarious
I literally know nothing about this chap's accuracy  
pganut : 6/22/2017 12:49 pm : link
And the name scares me, but...
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Incarcerated Bob @incarceratedbob 2m2 minutes ago

**BREAKING NHL NEWS**
Oilers tried to hold out for Dal Colle who Edmonton wanted badly #Isles rebuffed as he's possibly in another deal
If true, I like that Garth stuck to his guns. Chia Pet was over a barrel and had no leverage. Management, team, fans knew after the season ended Eberle was gone. I'd always heard it wasn't going to take an overpay to get him.
And Eberle couldn't have scared the Isles too much  
pganut : 6/22/2017 12:51 pm : link
With Kelly Buchberger to join the Isles coaching staff, word is that he and Eberle didn't always see eye to eye in EDM. Could be, that just like we've speculated for a while about Strome, that maybe this is a guy who could just use a change of scenery.
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arcarsenal : 6/22/2017 12:55 pm : link
Good trade for the Isles.

Though it feels like EDM has been itching to get rid of Eberle for a while now... which is slightly suspicious.

Then again, Chiarelli dealt Hall who had an excellent year for NJD... so.
RE: I literally know nothing about this chap's accuracy  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13507674 pganut said:
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And the name scares me, but...


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Incarcerated Bob @incarceratedbob 2m2 minutes ago

**BREAKING NHL NEWS**
Oilers tried to hold out for Dal Colle who Edmonton wanted badly #Isles rebuffed as he's possibly in another deal

If true, I like that Garth stuck to his guns. Chia Pet was over a barrel and had no leverage. Management, team, fans knew after the season ended Eberle was gone. I'd always heard it wasn't going to take an overpay to get him.

Do not post anything from incarcerated Bob. He is a known false asshat. He makes shit up as he goes.
RE: .  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13507685 arcarsenal said:
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Good trade for the Isles.

Though it feels like EDM has been itching to get rid of Eberle for a while now... which is slightly suspicious.

Then again, Chiarelli dealt Hall who had an excellent year for NJD... so.

The Hall trade looked like a terrible deal at the time but Larsson actually had a great season and the trade ended up being better for Edmonton than expected.
Sold trade,  
marbles : 6/22/2017 12:58 pm : link
but this makes the team only marginally better, imo. And Eberle carries a big salary.

I hope this is the appetizer for a Duchene deal.
RE: I just want to have fun with this  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13507659 feelflows said:
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Isles trade:

G Reinhart
R Strome

to Edmonton for:

M Barzal
A Beauviller
J Eberle

sorry...that's hilarious

You should include one of the draft picks the Isles gave to Vegas for not selecting Strome and taking Grabovski's contract.
RE: RE: I literally know nothing about this chap's accuracy  
pganut : 6/22/2017 1:01 pm : link
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Do not post anything from incarcerated Bob. He is a known false asshat. He makes shit up as he goes.
I don't doubt it with a name/handle like that. Unfortunate choice when credibility is an asset (not that self-styled "insiders" like Gallof or Eklund are any better).
RE: RE: RE: I literally know nothing about this chap's accuracy  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13507696 pganut said:
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Do not post anything from incarcerated Bob. He is a known false asshat. He makes shit up as he goes.

I don't doubt it with a name/handle like that. Unfortunate choice when credibility is an asset (not that self-styled "insiders" like Gallof or Eklund are any better).

He is worse than any other. Somehow he has a following that actually believes him. He has been so wrong about Lebron, Melo, Zach Parise, etc. There was an article a couple of years ago proving what a fake he is. He allegedly works for a sports gambling site.
PS  
feelflows : 6/22/2017 1:13 pm : link
I love that this went down when Staple was on a plane.. not that he would've broke it anyway.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 6/22/2017 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13507690 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13507685 arcarsenal said:


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Good trade for the Isles.

Though it feels like EDM has been itching to get rid of Eberle for a while now... which is slightly suspicious.

Then again, Chiarelli dealt Hall who had an excellent year for NJD... so.


The Hall trade looked like a terrible deal at the time but Larsson actually had a great season and the trade ended up being better for Edmonton than expected.


Yeah, Larsson absolutely played well for EDM and it wasn't nearly as bad as it seemed at first.

I guess my overall point was just that even though EDM seemed to be trying to get rid of him for a bit, he was still a really nice acquisition for NJD, which bodes fairly well for NYI.

Hall is a better player than Eberle, but still.
Here's one for PJ  
pganut : 6/22/2017 1:16 pm : link
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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun 2m2 minutes ago
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Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Canadiens Montral
Habs get David Schlemko from Vegas. Solid pickup. Good skater, good contract
. MTL sends 5th rd pick in 2019.
RE: PS  
pganut : 6/22/2017 1:19 pm : link
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I love that this went down when Staple was on a plane.. not that he would've broke it anyway.
Staple also knows he missed out, just tweeted this also:
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Arthur Staple‏Verified account @StapeNewsday 2m2 minutes ago

Texted Garth Snow about the deal. His response: "Get on another flight so I can do some work."
Perhaps  
JonC : 6/22/2017 1:25 pm : link
Gorton is nursing a wicked Scotch hangover these past couple weeks.

Earth to Gorton?
RE: Perhaps  
pganut : 6/22/2017 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13507723 JonC said:
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Gorton is nursing a wicked Scotch hangover these past couple weeks.

Earth to Gorton?
If he inherited the (over)stocked liquor cabinet from Sloshy Slats, it may be a while he's in there drinking, Jon.
RE: Methot  
ColHowPepper : 6/22/2017 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13507511 pganut said:
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There'll be a domino effect.
A Hamonic mention from LeBrun:
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Pierre LeBrun‏ Verified account
@PierreVLeBrun
Following
Flames on lookout for top-4 D... believe they've looked into Hamonic, Methot, among others; also still trying to re-sign M. Stone.
Methot: I'll try again; last night I asked what the logic was in Sens' leaving Methot unprotected. I thought he was Sens' 2nd best d-man in series vs. NYR and Conf' Finals. I'd have in Blue in a heartbeat.

Now Flames said to be looking at him as a #2 D. What was Sens' logic? Just salary?
I don't get why  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 1:40 pm : link
LV picked Schlemko to flip him for a 5th round pick.

McPhee acted like the smartest person on the planet last night, but I don't get a lot of their decisions.

a 5th round NHL draft pick in three drafts from now is essentially giving the player away.
CHP, doesn't seem to be a good answer  
pganut : 6/22/2017 1:40 pm : link
Other than the money, and even at that, seems like a shaky basis to expose your #2 D-man and the Robin to Karlsson's Batman. I guess they had to hope that Bobby Ryan was really the one grabbed. On the Silver Seven's site, you can find no good reasons he's gone, but you do find about half that loved Methot and the other half who said "meh".

But I did see this, so it looks like he may well stay in Vegas:
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Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 29m29 minutes ago

Amid talk VGK trying to trade Marc Methot, he has 10-team No Trade list and sense seems to be he'd rather stay in Vegas than alter his list.
RE: RE: I just want to have fun with this  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/22/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13507694 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13507659 feelflows said:


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Isles trade:

G Reinhart
R Strome

to Edmonton for:

M Barzal
A Beauviller
J Eberle

sorry...that's hilarious


You should include one of the draft picks the Isles gave to Vegas for not selecting Strome and taking Grabovski's contract.


Relevant to the isles, but not relevant to their fleecing of Edmonton.
RE: I don't get why  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13507753 pjcas18 said:
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LV picked Schlemko to flip him for a 5th round pick.

McPhee acted like the smartest person on the planet last night, but I don't get a lot of their decisions.

a 5th round NHL draft pick in three drafts from now is essentially giving the player away.

They selected way too many defenseman and had to clear some. Schlemko is a 6th or 7th defenseman on a good team and I am sure they were happy to get something for him. I thought Vegas did a great job with the lone exception being passing on Vatanen for a draft pick. I felt Vatanen could have been a core player for them for years or been flipped at the deadline for more than they received for passing on drafting him. Vegas will struggle mightily as all expansion teams do but they will have the benefit of letting their young players develop in the NHL.
The draft is tomorrow  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 1:45 pm : link
What is the latest on the 1st overall pick? Are the Devils expected to take Patrick or Hischier.
RE: CHP, doesn't seem to be a good answer  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13507754 pganut said:
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Other than the money, and even at that, seems like a shaky basis to expose your #2 D-man and the Robin to Karlsson's Batman. I guess they had to hope that Bobby Ryan was really the one grabbed. On the Silver Seven's site, you can find no good reasons he's gone, but you do find about half that loved Methot and the other half who said "meh".

But I did see this, so it looks like he may well stay in Vegas:

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Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 29m29 minutes ago

Amid talk VGK trying to trade Marc Methot, he has 10-team No Trade list and sense seems to be he'd rather stay in Vegas than alter his list.



I think teams could not expose anyone with a NMC/NTC/MNTC without them waiving it.

Was it just a NMC?
Cant get on Garth  
KWhite2250 : 6/22/2017 1:46 pm : link
For the work he's done so far. Now get that 2nd line center!
RE: RE: I don't get why  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13507763 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 13507753 pjcas18 said:


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LV picked Schlemko to flip him for a 5th round pick.

McPhee acted like the smartest person on the planet last night, but I don't get a lot of their decisions.

a 5th round NHL draft pick in three drafts from now is essentially giving the player away.


They selected way too many defenseman and had to clear some. Schlemko is a 6th or 7th defenseman on a good team and I am sure they were happy to get something for him. I thought Vegas did a great job with the lone exception being passing on Vatanen for a draft pick. I felt Vatanen could have been a core player for them for years or been flipped at the deadline for more than they received for passing on drafting him. Vegas will struggle mightily as all expansion teams do but they will have the benefit of letting their young players develop in the NHL.


They selected 13 defenseman and traded for 2 more. They didn't have to, they could have picked other players from SJ that either had value to them on the ice or more value in a trade.

Picking Schlemko and then giving him away is a head scratcher. I think he sucks, and so do 5th round picks generally.

It would be like an NFL franchise having an expansion draft taking a shitty player as their only player from a team and flipping the player for a 7th round draft pick.

What's the point?
EJ Hradek thinks the Isles will be busy  
marbles : 6/22/2017 2:22 pm : link
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E.J. Hradek ✔ @EJHradek_NHL
@NYIslanders looking to go all-in on the upcoming season. I expect them to make another deal or three https://twitter.com/nyislanders/status/877943436321665024
1:40 PM - 22 Jun 2017


As an Isles fan, this exciting and terrifying at the same time.
This makes me nervous  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 2:27 pm : link
not sure I see a match I like.

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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Hearing that the Devils are among the teams that have inquired with Montreal about Alex Galchenyuk...
RE: This makes me nervous  
feelflows : 6/22/2017 2:30 pm : link
In comment 13507886 pjcas18 said:
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not sure I see a match I like.



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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Hearing that the Devils are among the teams that have inquired with Montreal about Alex Galchenyuk...




I'm trying to figure out the return on that one.
RE: RE: This makes me nervous  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13507898 feelflows said:
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In comment 13507886 pjcas18 said:


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not sure I see a match I like.



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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Hearing that the Devils are among the teams that have inquired with Montreal about Alex Galchenyuk...






I'm trying to figure out the return on that one.


Zajac? Henrique?

that's the fear among Habs fans.

Habs desperate for a C. I'd rather just play Galchenyuk and/or Drouin at C.
Devils supposedly  
JayBinQueens : 6/22/2017 2:35 pm : link
also contacted chicago about Hjalmarrson
RE: This makes me nervous  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 2:38 pm : link
In comment 13507886 pjcas18 said:
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not sure I see a match I like.



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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Hearing that the Devils are among the teams that have inquired with Montreal about Alex Galchenyuk...



I am happy with Galchenyuk as long as they don't give up The 1st overall pick, Zacha, or Hall. If they do agree to a trade I assume the Devils would be taking a big contract back along with Galchenyuk.
RE: RE: RE: This makes me nervous  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 2:40 pm : link
In comment 13507915 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13507898 feelflows said:


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In comment 13507886 pjcas18 said:


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not sure I see a match I like.



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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Hearing that the Devils are among the teams that have inquired with Montreal about Alex Galchenyuk...






I'm trying to figure out the return on that one.



Zajac? Henrique?

that's the fear among Habs fans.

Habs desperate for a C. I'd rather just play Galchenyuk and/or Drouin at C.

If Zajac is part of that deal I will be very happy. The Devils are pretty deep at center and I have to think Henrique is definitely included.
Hamonic talk intensifying  
pganut : 6/22/2017 2:54 pm : link
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Chris Nichols‏ @NicholsOnHockey 6m6 minutes ago

Replying to @NicholsOnHockey
Friedman on Hamonic: "I think there's a lot of action on him. I wouldn't be surprised if it comes soon." #Isles

Friedman on Hamonic: "I'm just told the price is high."
Well, the rumored price on Duchene is high. I'd expect Hamonic in a Duchene move, but also hearing Calgary is inquiring as well.
Too rich  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 5:04 pm : link
for MTL blood.

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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

Hearing that Radulov's latest contract ask was six years at $7 M per season. No way Habs do that..


I've read as many as 15 teams inquired about Galchenyuk. If Bergevin was smart he'd be leaking more to create a bidding war (though seems like he or someone is leaking bits of info already)
..  
Jay on the Island : 6/22/2017 5:13 pm : link
Kovalchuk might wish to go to Montreal especially if his buddy Radulov re-signs. He could be part of the package for Galchenyuk.
Full 2017-18 schedule released  
NYerInMA : 6/22/2017 5:25 pm : link
.
Schedule - ( New Window )
This and Draisatil  
pjcas18 : 6/22/2017 5:28 pm : link
explain the Eberle salary dump.

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Chris Nichols‏ @NicholsOnHockey 4m4 minutes ago

Dreger: "There are whispers that it's going to be $14 million for Connor McDavid." #Oilers
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