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Deej : 6/21/2017 7:57 am
What happens in Vegas gets traded for futures in Vegas. Discuss.
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RE: RE: wait until you see the new golden knights uniforms  
Deej : 6/21/2017 11:46 am : link
In comment 13505991 pjcas18 said:
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they are horrendous





It's like the generic jersey from a video game that could license NHL rights.
Lol  
bigbluehoya : 6/21/2017 12:29 pm : link
Southwest Airlines pilot has tweeted that MAF is aboard a flight to Vegas.

RE: Someone here said it the other day:  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 12:32 pm : link
In comment 13506080 Stu11 said:
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the 2018 entry draft will be Las Vegas picking and about 3 other teams (at least the first 2 rds) lol


Yeah, I said they're going to accumulate all the first and second round picks in 2018.

slight exaggeration, but I could see them with a legit 10 picks in the first few rounds.
Vegas is going to have a very solid goalie duo  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 12:38 pm : link
Fleury and either Raanta/Mrazek will be better than many teams in the league. I am surprised that they took a pick over the chances to select Vatanen who would be a top pairing defenseman for them and they could have probably flipped him for more. Perhaps it is a way for their new front office to form strong relationships with other teams.
Unrelated to the draft, but  
Mike in Long Beach : 6/21/2017 12:54 pm : link
Rangers open at home vs. Colorado on October 5
Isles open in Columbus on October 6
RE: Unrelated to the draft, but  
Metnut : 6/21/2017 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13506301 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Rangers open at home vs. Colorado on October 5
Isles open in Columbus on October 6


Isles home opener (Saturday) October 7 at 7PM vs Buffalo. Love the home opener being on a Saturday night. I'm moving to North Carolina next week but am planning on making it back up for the opener.
RE: RE: Unrelated to the draft, but  
feelflows : 6/21/2017 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13506305 Metnut said:
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Rangers open at home vs. Colorado on October 5
Isles open in Columbus on October 6



Isles home opener (Saturday) October 7 at 7PM vs Buffalo. Love the home opener being on a Saturday night. I'm moving to North Carolina next week but am planning on making it back up for the opener.


congrats! what part of NC? Raleigh? Able to catch some Hurricane games?
Thanks!  
Metnut : 6/21/2017 1:00 pm : link
I'm moving to Charlotte. I think Raleigh is a less than three hour drive from CHA, so I'll at least go to one NYI vs CAR game each year.

Not being able to go to Isles or Mets game on a whim is going to hurt a little bit...
RE: Vegas is going to have a very solid goalie duo  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 1:09 pm : link
In comment 13506271 Jay on the Island said:
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Fleury and either Raanta/Mrazek will be better than many teams in the league. I am surprised that they took a pick over the chances to select Vatanen who would be a top pairing defenseman for them and they could have probably flipped him for more. Perhaps it is a way for their new front office to form strong relationships with other teams.


Vatanen surprised me too. I'm not a fan of their goalie situation. I've never been a MAF fan (as he has three rings on his fingers) and backups are backups. Raanta I like (as backup) not a fan of Mrazek.

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Mike in Long Beach : 6/21/2017 1:09 pm : link
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I'm moving to North Carolina next week


We never discussed this. Not happy, bro.
RE: Thanks!  
feelflows : 6/21/2017 1:10 pm : link
In comment 13506312 Metnut said:
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I'm moving to Charlotte. I think Raleigh is a less than three hour drive from CHA, so I'll at least go to one NYI vs CAR game each year.

Not being able to go to Isles or Mets game on a whim is going to hurt a little bit...


awesome..we'll hook up for a Mets/Isles game at a restaurant. I can clue you into the best places.

I frequent the Huntersville/Mooresville area. We can get the games on at Red Rock or Duckworth's anytime!!!
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BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2017 1:10 pm : link
I think Vegas could have done better picking Staal/Dumba and Vatenan/Manson and flipping them than taking what was offered.

I like Mrazek. Think DET is being dumb.
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pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 1:13 pm : link
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Jim Toth‏Verified account @JimTothSports

Source tells me #Winnipeg's & now former #Stars forward Cody Eakin is a Las Vegas #GoldenKnights #NHLExpansionDraft #NHL
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bigbluehoya : 6/21/2017 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13506338 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think Vegas could have done better picking Staal/Dumba and Vatenan/Manson and flipping them than taking what was offered.


I think this is a difficult game to play -- I'm guessing that ANA and MIN agreed to the terms with LV before the protection list due date, and if they had not come to an agreement, MIN and ANA would have protection lists (and possibly rosters) that look different than they do right now.
RE: ...  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13506338 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think Vegas could have done better picking Staal/Dumba and Vatenan/Manson and flipping them than taking what was offered.

I like Mrazek. Think DET is being dumb.


Mrazek was brutal last year. Was there a worse goalie with more than 40 starts? You think that was an anomaly?

Jimmy Howard, who I'm also not a fan of, clearly outplayed Mrazek.

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feelflows : 6/21/2017 1:15 pm : link
In comment 13506341 pjcas18 said:
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Jim Toth‏Verified account @JimTothSports

Source tells me #Winnipeg's & now former #Stars forward Cody Eakin is a Las Vegas #GoldenKnights #NHLExpansionDraft #NHL




solid 3rd line center on a good team. was not very good last year, but usually hits mid 30s in points. nothing to write home about.
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pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 1:18 pm : link
In comment 13506346 feelflows said:
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Jim Toth‏Verified account @JimTothSports

Source tells me #Winnipeg's & now former #Stars forward Cody Eakin is a Las Vegas #GoldenKnights #NHLExpansionDraft #NHL






solid 3rd line center on a good team. was not very good last year, but usually hits mid 30s in points. nothing to write home about.


yep, cross Dallas off the list now that you know who their player is.
Mrazek was bad last season  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 1:18 pm : link
but he is only 25 and he played very well the previous two seasons. Why not take a chance on him?
RE: RE: Thanks!  
Metnut : 6/21/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13506335 feelflows said:
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I'm moving to Charlotte. I think Raleigh is a less than three hour drive from CHA, so I'll at least go to one NYI vs CAR game each year.

Not being able to go to Isles or Mets game on a whim is going to hurt a little bit...



awesome..we'll hook up for a Mets/Isles game at a restaurant. I can clue you into the best places.

I frequent the Huntersville/Mooresville area. We can get the games on at Red Rock or Duckworth's anytime!!!


That sounds like a plan!
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Metnut : 6/21/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13506334 Mike in Long Beach said:
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I'm moving to North Carolina next week

We never discussed this. Not happy, bro.


It came together pretty fast. I still expect to be in NY a half dozen or so times a year though.
RE: Mrazek was bad last season  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13506352 Jay on the Island said:
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but he is only 25 and he played very well the previous two seasons. Why not take a chance on him?


no reason. as a backup they could do worse.

I am just not a fan of his, but goalies do have off years so who knows.

I'd pick MAF and Raanta easily before Mrazek - unless those teams had better other options.

and I still don't think MAF/Raanta or MAF/Mrazek is that great of a goalie duo.

I think this Vegas team is going to be near record setting for how bad they are.
Vegas reportedly will select  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 1:22 pm : link
Eric Haula from the Wild. They must have worked out a deal for Vegas to pass on Dumba.
pj  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 1:23 pm : link
I think Vegas will be by far the worst team in the league especially since they won't be selecting guys like Vatanen and Dumba in exchange for picks.
update  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 1:24 pm : link
In exchange for the Golden Knights choosing Haula in expansion and steering clear of, among others, defensemen Matt Dumba and Marco Scandella and center Eric Staal, the Wild has agreed to trade prospect Alex Tuch and a conditional future draft pick to Vegas, sources say.
Link - ( New Window )
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BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2017 1:28 pm : link
hoya, that's fair.

pj: Yeah, I think last year was an anomaly for him. I also think one is a declining asset and one's an ascending one. It just strikes me as awful asset management.
If Pitt wasn't offering a draft pick  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 1:30 pm : link
I would have passed on MAF and selected Mrazek and Raanta.
RE: Unrelated to the draft, but  
MetsAreBack : 6/21/2017 1:48 pm : link
In comment 13506301 Mike in Long Beach said:
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Rangers open at home vs. Colorado on October 5
Isles open in Columbus on October 6


If you scroll down that release it tells you the Rangers first two games:

Thu 10/5 vs Colorado
Sat 10.7 @ Toronto

Looks like islanders open on the road in Columbus on Friday night
RE: Thanks!  
JayBinQueens : 6/21/2017 2:11 pm : link
In comment 13506312 Metnut said:
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I'm moving to Charlotte. I think Raleigh is a less than three hour drive from CHA, so I'll at least go to one NYI vs CAR game each year.

Not being able to go to Isles or Mets game on a whim is going to hurt a little bit...


Congrats!!
Some Swedish dude said the Rangers traded their first rounder  
Anakim : 6/21/2017 2:28 pm : link
It's on HF Boards and Twitter. Not sure the veracity
LeBrun reports Methot will be selected  
pganut : 6/21/2017 2:37 pm : link
But not sure if VGK keeps him or flips him.

As shared with some of the Isles guys here, Staple tweets the Islander being selected tonight did NOT see regular NHL time last season. Unless it's Halak, which I sincerely doubt, that leaves us really with Prince and Mayfield. Sounds like it should be one of the two of them.

Lastly on why Mrazek is being exposed, I've read on the Wingin' It In Motown blog several times that Mrazek's attitude pisses the Wings organization off. Yes, goalies are weird, but he purportedly mouths off a lot, shows lack of interest, disparages teammates and tends to be a bit too cocky. They don't sound upset to lose him.
RE: Some Swedish dude said the Rangers traded their first rounder  
BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2017 2:41 pm : link
In comment 13506451 Anakim said:
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It's on HF Boards and Twitter. Not sure the veracity


Fake news.
RE: LeBrun reports Methot will be selected  
JayBinQueens : 6/21/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13506468 pganut said:
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As shared with some of the Isles guys here, Staple tweets the Islander being selected tonight did NOT see regular NHL time last season. Unless it's Halak, which I sincerely doubt, that leaves us really with Prince and Mayfield. Sounds like it should be one of the two of them.


Out of the two I'd rather lose Prince but with the rumors that they're taking a ton of defense I'd assume Mayfield
Vegas  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 2:53 pm : link
will reportedly add Montreals Alexei Emelin to go along with Methot. Both are rumored to be trade possibilities once acquired. I have to with the exception of passing on Vatanen for a pick I think Vegas is doing a great job so far loading up on picks to build up their farm system. They will be the worst team in the league and they will have a great shot at the #1 overall pick next year plus the bounty of picks they have and will acquire.
RE: RE: Some Swedish dude said the Rangers traded their first rounder  
Anakim : 6/21/2017 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13506472 BrettNYG10 said:
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It's on HF Boards and Twitter. Not sure the veracity



Fake news.


Twitter's the fucking worst
RE: Vegas  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13506487 Jay on the Island said:
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will reportedly add Montreals Alexei Emelin to go along with Methot. Both are rumored to be trade possibilities once acquired. I have to with the exception of passing on Vatanen for a pick I think Vegas is doing a great job so far loading up on picks to build up their farm system. They will be the worst team in the league and they will have a great shot at the #1 overall pick next year plus the bounty of picks they have and will acquire.


Hopefully the Canadiens didn't have to compensate LV in any way to take Emelin. He's a top 4 D on most teams and a valuable trade asset. Only 1 year left under contract at a reasonable $4.1M cap hit, but sometimes that's better than being tied up long-term.

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pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:25 pm : link
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The Mayor John Hoven‏ @mayorNHL 14m14 minutes ago

Sources lead us to believe LA Kings will be losing defenseman Brayden McNabb to Vegas Golden Knights in #NHLExpansionDraft
Not sure if discussed above  
Fish : 6/21/2017 3:27 pm : link
but Fleury staying in Pitt would mess up Pitts cap I think. Therefore McPhee can stick it to Pitts plans by not taking him.
Also noticed on NHL Net that Grubauer and Mrzack (sp?) are top choices for LV.
Apparently Mrazek wasn't taken.  
BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2017 3:32 pm : link
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pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:32 pm : link
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Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun 7h7 hours ago

My understanding is that VGK have secured via trades about 10 draft picks spread out over 3 years. So far anyway.
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BrettNYG10 : 6/21/2017 3:32 pm : link
Craig Custance‏Verified account @CraigCustance 9m9 minutes ago
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Hearing Tomas Nosek most likely to be picked by Vegas from Red Wings list.
With some of these names  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:35 pm : link
I feel like the scene from the movie major league.

Granted I am not an expert in NHL rosters...
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Board Member #1: I've never heard of half of these guys and the ones I do know are way past their prime.

Charlie: Most of these guys never had a prime.

Rachel Phelps: The facts are, we lost our two best players to free agency. We haven't won a pennant in over thirty-five years, we haven't placed higher than 4th in the last fifteen. Obviously, it's time for some changes.

Board Member #2: This guy here is dead.

Rachel Phelps: [obviously...] Cross him off, then.
heh  
Greg from LI : 6/21/2017 3:37 pm : link
Love those scenes.

"I never heard of these guys....Mitchell Freeman???"
I assume leaks  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:37 pm : link
will becoming more frequently soon.

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John Shannon‏Verified account @JSportsnet 19s20 seconds ago

The 30 teams have been informed which player they are losing to Vegas.All are in the process of informing those players of their selection.
Staple  
KWhite2250 : 6/21/2017 3:39 pm : link
Has changed his story again? Why should we even believe he knows anything? Gets us excited that $9 mill is coming off to ok maybe not $9 million but hickey or halak so still a good amount to now just grabovskis contract and a guy who barely plays. Can Art change his story 1 more time before the player actually leaks out?
Some notes  
pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:46 pm : link
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Replying to @NHLnumbers @frank_seravalli

Here's what I have now with recent updates. Have to assume some players (Methot) will be flipped.


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pjcas18 : 6/21/2017 3:48 pm : link
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Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago

Bob McKenzie Retweeted Arthur Staple

I'm hearing it's goaltender J-F Berube, as part of the larger deal between NYI and VGK:
Larry Brooks  
jv : 6/21/2017 3:52 pm : link
Reporting that Vegas HAS NOT selected Raanta....
Vegas does have some talent with those selections  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 3:52 pm : link
Of course most of the veterans will likely be packaged. Great job by Toronto in getting Vegas to take Clarkson's terrible contract.
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KWhite2250 : 6/21/2017 3:53 pm : link
In comment 13506574 pjcas18 said:
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Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago

Bob McKenzie Retweeted Arthur Staple

I'm hearing it's goaltender J-F Berube, as part of the larger deal between NYI and VGK:



Hahahaha Garth talked his buddy imto taking a piece of shit player. Or they both just love JFB
Columbus  
Jay on the Island : 6/21/2017 3:56 pm : link
not Toronto
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