NFT: Yankees talk ATL Sports radio talking about trade

this is hypothetical.. No talks are going on.

Bird is gonna be out for a long time.

I don't see the Braves doing that deal. Freddie Freeman's not due back until late July, at the earliest. They initially said it was a 10 week injury. A fractured wrist is no easy thing to come back from late in the season.

It makes sense for both sides but the Braves love Adams and he is only due 5 million next year so I don't think the Yankees will meet Atlanta's asking price.

that the Braves are actually discussing moving Freeman to third base when he returns to keep Adams in the lineup. Now the chances of this are extremely thin but that just shows how much they like Adams that they are even considering such a crazy move.

The frustrating thing about the handful of the Yanks issues is that theyd likely addition by subtraction things... e.g., no one was asking Carter to win games, and he wasnt, but now he's losing them. That cant happen.

Move Headley to 1B. Bring up Wade and mix and match him with Torreyes at 3B. That way, the Yanks aren't trading any assets, they allow Wade to take the next step and Andujar gets to play 3B every day at Scranton.

sorry

Yanks need Duda. Perfect fit for the rest of this season.

Why is that whenever one of these trade threads come up, its always about some National league stiff ? So a bench player on one of the worst teams in baseball in the worst division in baseball has gets hot and we're supposed to be interested ? Unless the want to sell him for cash, No Thank you.

The best player we've ever gotten from Atlanta is Chasen Shreve, and thats not saying much. Do Chris Hammond, Chris Carpenter and Denny Nagle ring a bell for anybody ?

In comment 13506350 feelflows said:

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Yanks need Duda. Perfect fit for the rest of this season.

Adams is better than Duda. Much better. Besides let the Mets be stuck with Duda.

In comment 13506363 Ron from Ninerland said:

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Why is that whenever one of these trade threads come up, its always about some National league stiff ? So a bench player on one of the worst teams in baseball in the worst division in baseball has gets hot and we're supposed to be interested ? Unless the want to sell him for cash, No Thank you. The best player we've ever gotten from Atlanta is Chasen Shreve, and thats not saying much. Do Chris Hammond, Chris Carpenter and Denny Nagle ring a bell for anybody ?

I guess you haven't been following Adams' career. He isn't some stiff who just happened to get hot.

Are not going to trade Adams, their most ML ready pitcher. Especially with CC on the DL (probably for 6-weeks) and Tanaka tanking

You are referring to Matt Adams and not Chance Adams. Two players named Adams, who would have thunk? (8>

In comment 13506373 Jay on the Island said:

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In comment 13506363 Ron from Ninerland said: Quote: Why is that whenever one of these trade threads come up, its always about some National league stiff ? So a bench player on one of the worst teams in baseball in the worst division in baseball has gets hot and we're supposed to be interested ? Unless the want to sell him for cash, No Thank you. The best player we've ever gotten from Atlanta is Chasen Shreve, and thats not saying much. Do Chris Hammond, Chris Carpenter and Denny Nagle ring a bell for anybody ? I guess you haven't been following Adams' career. He isn't some stiff who just happened to get hot.

So the Mets wont get much for Duda per your comment on the other thread, but the Braves will have a tall "asking price" for Adams.

Adams (28 y/o):
2017: 163 atbats, 911 OPS, 134 OPS+, 0.9 WAR, 34% hit rate
Career: 1,544 atbats, 785 OPS, 112 OPS+, 5.0 WAR, 32% hit rate

Duda (31 y/o):
2017: 163 atbats, 878 OPS, 128 OPS+, 0.9 WAR, 26% hit rate
Career: 2,405 atbats, 798 OPS, 121 OPS+, 6.9 WAR, 29% hit rate

...so despite one guy having his lowest career hit rate (balls that fall for hits as % of balls put in play) while the other guy is having his best, the OPS+ and WAR of the two players is still pretty even this year.

Additionally, Duda has produced a better career OPS, OPS+ and WAR and over a larger 900 atbat sample size.



Atlanta marketing machine at work folks - been watching this with grudging respect for 20 years. Second only to the Red Sox in hyping up their own.

In comment 13506586 MetsAreBack said:

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So the Mets wont get much for Duda per your comment on the other thread, but the Braves will have a tall "asking price" for Adams. Adams (28 y/o): 2017: 163 atbats, 911 OPS, 134 OPS+, 0.9 WAR, 34% hit rate Career: 1,544 atbats, 785 OPS, 112 OPS+, 5.0 WAR, 32% hit rate Duda (31 y/o): 2017: 163 atbats, 878 OPS, 128 OPS+, 0.9 WAR, 26% hit rate Career: 2,405 atbats, 798 OPS, 121 OPS+, 6.9 WAR, 29% hit rate ...so despite one guy having his lowest career hit rate (balls that fall for hits as % of balls put in play) while the other guy is having his best, the OPS+ and WAR of the two players is still pretty even this year. Additionally, Duda has produced a better career OPS, OPS+ and WAR and over a larger 900 atbat sample size. Atlanta marketing machine at work folks - been watching this with grudging respect for 20 years. Second only to the Red Sox in hyping up their own.

I suggest you go back and re-read my post in the other tread. I never said that Adams had more value than Duda. I also never said Adams was a better player than Duda. What I said was that the Braves like Adams a lot and will likely request a lot more in return than the Yankees would be willing to give up. A Mets fan accusing a Braves fan of hyping up their own lol!

upon his return from the DL after the all-star break. He practiced at third today. I am not sure if this is legit or a cheap ploy to try to raise the asking price for Adams.

In comment 13506686 Jay on the Island said:

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upon his return from the DL after the all-star break. He practiced at third today. I am not sure if this is legit or a cheap ploy to try to raise the asking price for Adams.

Wait, the Braves are gonna move their franchise player to 3rd base to keep....drum roll.....Matt Adams in the lineup? Are you freaking kidding me? Holy shit man. There are no words. It's Matt freaking Adams! I get it, he's hot right now. But holy over reaction. Matt Adams is forcing Freddie Freeman to change positions. Just think about that for a minute

In comment 13506723 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 13506686 Jay on the Island said: Quote: upon his return from the DL after the all-star break. He practiced at third today. I am not sure if this is legit or a cheap ploy to try to raise the asking price for Adams. Wait, the Braves are gonna move their franchise player to 3rd base to keep....drum roll.....Matt Adams in the lineup? Are you freaking kidding me? Holy shit man. There are no words. It's Matt freaking Adams! I get it, he's hot right now. But holy over reaction. Matt Adams is forcing Freddie Freeman to change positions. Just think about that for a minute

It was actually Freeman's idea. Adams was very good during the 2013 and 2014 seasons but this just seems like a ploy to me.