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NFT: Phil Jackson interview - 5 minutes

Ira : 6/21/2017 9:52 pm
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Could've just posted this in the threads  
Anakim : 6/21/2017 9:52 pm : link
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I could have, but I thought it would get buried.  
Ira : 6/21/2017 9:55 pm : link
I think it's worth it's own thread - more than some of the rumor and suggestion threads.
I don't get it  
g56blue10 : 6/21/2017 10:02 pm : link
Why is everyone freaking out about this interview? I don't think he said anything that bad or crazy
Any time I hear 'I think I know what I'm doing'  
jcn56 : 6/21/2017 10:06 pm : link
I get concerned.
RE: I don't get it  
yatqb : 6/21/2017 10:08 pm : link
In comment 13507003 g56blue10 said:
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Why is everyone freaking out about this interview? I don't think he said anything that bad or crazy


I agree. But he has lost the team. Perhaps some would say that's less important than the HC, but I'm not sure it is.
One thing he has done pretty well is draft players.  
Ira : 6/21/2017 10:12 pm : link
So I'm hopeful for tomorrow.
Keeping my fingers crossed.  
yatqb : 6/21/2017 10:13 pm : link
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So his goal is to get back 2 starters  
larryflower37 : 6/21/2017 10:14 pm : link
And a draft pick for KP.
That's if he makes the deal?
RE: One thing he has done pretty well is draft players.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/21/2017 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13507019 Ira said:
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So I'm hopeful for tomorrow.


Even that is arguable as much of the credit for Porzingis goes to Clarence Gaines, who threatened to resign if KP was not the pick.
He better say he thinks he knows  
Dave on the UWS : 6/22/2017 12:27 am : link
What he's doing otherwise get out now. His record says otherwise though. What is real obvious though is his ego took a hit with the KP blow off. That's why he's "listening to offers". I can easily see this as his undoing that will get him fired. If he trades him to "teach him whose boss" it's gonna hurt at he gate and that's when Dolan will act. There's a final straw somewhere here we just haven't reached it yet
Knicks in a nutshell...  
sometimeswrite : 6/22/2017 3:24 am : link
Porzingis, a little boy in a big mans body who is being manipulated by family. Who got pushed around at the belt line in year 1 and 2 by increasingly smaller players, and yet didn't figure it out.

Anthony, a increasingly lazy player over the years who wants to stay because coach and players defer to him. The strength of his game was inside and the foul line, now just wants to chuck em from deep.

Jackson, is the GM who still wants to coach but can't physically perform that function and yet wants to impose his coaching ideals on the current coach.

Jeff H, probably the only one that should stay that won't.
RE: He better say he thinks he knows  
jcn56 : 6/22/2017 7:39 am : link
In comment 13507131 Dave on the UWS said:
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What he's doing otherwise get out now. His record says otherwise though. What is real obvious though is his ego took a hit with the KP blow off. That's why he's "listening to offers". I can easily see this as his undoing that will get him fired. If he trades him to "teach him whose boss" it's gonna hurt at he gate and that's when Dolan will act. There's a final straw somewhere here we just haven't reached it yet


That's why I have a bad feeling about all of this, just from the tone of that interview.

I expected 'look, we don't want to trade the guy, but we'd be stupid not to listen if people have offers we feel are too good to pass up'. Or even better - 'we have no intentions of trading him, we want him here, but that won't stop people from calling.'

Instead - we go back to the exit meeting again. I get it - KP skipping the exit meeting was bad, immature, stupid - you name it. But at this point, pointing it out repeatedly doesn't make him look bad, it makes you look weak and out of control.

Not that I ever have much confidence in the Knicks doing the right thing, but right now, whatever faith I did have is at an all time low. I get the impression PJ is trying to build culture in the team by moving out players who don't buy into his plan, and given the salary cap, draft limitations, etc. - that's just not going to work all of the time.
The Knicks are 80-166  
B in ALB : 6/22/2017 7:43 am : link
since the Bullshit Master got to NY.

He doesn't know what he's doing.
one other aspect that was strange  
ColHowPepper : 6/22/2017 7:54 am : link
was the almost adversarial tone taken by Trautwig: his questions were blunt, almost defiant and Jackson was only doing this because his employer placed him there. Now, maybe Trautwig's tone was staged so fans might be led to perceive they were getting straight talk. But this was not his normal demeanor, esp. with MSG "stars".

agree, jcn, Jackson ponying up the exit interview stuff a second time, when there was no natural segueway or prompt to it made me squirm.
That interview couldn't have been more staged  
jcn56 : 6/22/2017 8:11 am : link
if two hostages in an ISIS ransom video had conducted it. And it still came off with a weird, creepy uncomfortable vibe.
Jackson's two biggest mistakes, IMO,  
Ira : 6/22/2017 8:16 am : link
were re-signing Melo and trying to surround him with vets to win last season. Now, he seems committed to rebuilding. Rebuilding is tough in NY because the fans are impatient and the media feeds that impatience, but it's very necessary.
I've never been persuaded by the "you can't rebuild in NY"  
ColHowPepper : 6/22/2017 8:45 am : link
argument. Look at the embrace of the Yankees' youth movement once they shed the contracts of the aging "stars". Look at how Knicks' fans embrace KP and Willi. What Knicks' fans have rejected is precisely what you point out as one of PJ's two biggest mistakes, anchoring the team with over-the-hill vets, at dreadful contracts at that.

I think fans get it and will embrace it if there is a discernible and rational plan in place coupled with intelligent drafting of talent. My biggest gripe with Reese has been staying with mediocre FAs and not overhauling the OL, but until recently, JR has shown he can't draft well after Round 2.

I have long been turned off to the NBA and most of my exposure to the league is on the (for the most part) well-informed BBI threads. They have been begging to get rid of the dead wood.
RE: one other aspect that was strange  
feelflows : 6/22/2017 8:47 am : link
In comment 13507187 ColHowPepper said:
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was the almost adversarial tone taken by Trautwig: his questions were blunt, almost defiant and Jackson was only doing this because his employer placed him there. Now, maybe Trautwig's tone was staged so fans might be led to perceive they were getting straight talk. But this was not his normal demeanor, esp. with MSG "stars".

agree, jcn, Jackson ponying up the exit interview stuff a second time, when there was no natural segueway or prompt to it made me squirm.



I'm sure there's video from after the interview "gee Phil, that was great! Do you think it worked? Can we hang out?? Can I come over and play?? Have a sleep over?? Please Phil, please oh please!!!!"
Trautwig is a company man through and through  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/22/2017 9:11 am : link
Doing an interview with MSG is basically pillow talk.
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