1) Bender is awful. Anyone wanting him in a KP trade is nuts and obviously hasn't watched him play.
2) Bookers a nice player but he's terrible on D. I'm sure he'll better but who knows.
3) KP is an elite rim protector. Combined with his skills, do you know how hard it is to find that? Big part of KPs appeal is the ability to construct a good defense around him.
4) I can't believe some of these trade offers fans are suggesting. Some guy proposed Saric, future 1st and 4 2nd round picks. I can't believe this.
5) He skipped an exit interview and it was a mistake. You don't think other young players have made mistakes? Under Phil alone, Pippen sat out the final play in the ECF, Shaq skipped exit interviews and Drose just flat out skipped a game. Hell Magic Johnson got a coach fired early in his career. KP made one mistake,not a big one. Forgive him and move on.
Lastly- fuck Phil jackson. This is why you don't give him this offseason. Would any other GM in the league be acting like this?
i find it funny
nygiants16 : 9:14 am : link : reply
the player who has been ridiculed the most doesnt even eant to leave...
Or does he? At this point getting the word out to his fans that he wants to stay might be covering his own butt to look like the good guy here. He might be fine with being traded after all this bs.
lets pretend Janis pushed his brother to do this... and to ignore the texts... and to be upset... THAT'S a reason you sell low on a 21 year old player the ENTIRE league wants? You trade Porzingis in a deal where the return is "holy shit" not "seems reasonably fair if things work out". Outside of those on here who think KP is nothing special, is there anyone on here who doubts KP isn't going to be at WORST a 3rd best player on a contending team? And at best (if everything works out) a franchise player? Stars win rings, not this silly idea that Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder types (while nice players) move the needle.
who said anything about selling low? every single report says knicks asking price is absurdly high, who is selling low?
Someone on this very thread suggested Bender, 4 and the Suns 2020 pick. You just suggested the Suns offer but we get their 2018 pick. That is selling low.
lets pretend Janis pushed his brother to do this... and to ignore the texts... and to be upset... THAT'S a reason you sell low on a 21 year old player the ENTIRE league wants? You trade Porzingis in a deal where the return is "holy shit" not "seems reasonably fair if things work out". Outside of those on here who think KP is nothing special, is there anyone on here who doubts KP isn't going to be at WORST a 3rd best player on a contending team? And at best (if everything works out) a franchise player? Stars win rings, not this silly idea that Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder types (while nice players) move the needle.
who said anything about selling low? every single report says knicks asking price is absurdly high, who is selling low?
Someone on this very thread suggested Bender, 4 and the Suns 2020 pick. You just suggested the Suns offer but we get their 2018 pick. That is selling low.
i never said the suns pick, i said any offer has to include a pick in 201i whenre you can get top 5, did i mention the suns?
i also said no deal from the suns is worth considering unless booker is involved, never said i would do chriss or bender and 4 for kp never...
dont buy into this happening. This more feels like Phil got butt hurt from Porzingis blowing off the exit interview and is using the media to show Porzingis that even he isn't above trade speculation. Phil met with Janis over the off season, who reiterated to Phil Kristaps desire to play in New York, so Phil is dangling that carrot in front of KP that if you don't get in line I have offers and am not afraid to ship you off to Pheonix never to be seen again.
To is Boston. I want the 3rd pick this year and the Nets pick next year just to start. I'd also ask for Jaylen Brown and possibly another first in 2019 or a few seconds in 2017/2018.
To is Boston. I want the 3rd pick this year and the Nets pick next year just to start. I'd also ask for Jaylen Brown and possibly another first in 2019 or a few seconds in 2017/2018.
this, suns do not have enough to make me want to do a trade...
top 5 this year is nice but next years picks are the value and like dan said they might be too good to get top 5...
To is Boston. I want the 3rd pick this year and the Nets pick next year just to start. I'd also ask for Jaylen Brown and possibly another first in 2019 or a few seconds in 2017/2018.
this, suns do not have enough to make me want to do a trade...
top 5 this year is nice but next years picks are the value and like dan said they might be too good to get top 5...
Well, if you're dealing KP for picks/young players (e.g. Booker), then they need to go all in on the tank and move Melo. Increase the odds of their 2018 #1 being top 5 along with the Nets.
To is Boston. I want the 3rd pick this year and the Nets pick next year just to start. I'd also ask for Jaylen Brown and possibly another first in 2019 or a few seconds in 2017/2018.
this, suns do not have enough to make me want to do a trade...
top 5 this year is nice but next years picks are the value and like dan said they might be too good to get top 5...
Well, if you're dealing KP for picks/young players (e.g. Booker), then they need to go all in on the tank and move Melo. Increase the odds of their 2018 #1 being top 5 along with the Nets.
absolutely true, say knicks did brown 3 and bkn first for kp...
trade melo and knicks suck again...
imagine having a core of jackson, brown, say monk at 8, willy then 2 of doncic, ayton or porter?
than just skipping the exit interview. It just doesn't make sense.
i think its more about kp ignoring hornacek and phils overtures to speak to him, i think him skipping the exit meeting was one thing and they understood he was frustrated but not responding to them i think that is ehat is fueling everything
What is the definitive reporting on this?
I think you approach this from too negative a position on KP. Even the "good story" one could tell about Phil Jackson -- the successful coach -- has him being a button pusher. We see that in everything he's done here too. So to frame this as they just want to talk and be all nice I think ignores the fact that Phil's approach is to intentionally be an asshole.
Look, the basis of all this is that KP is fed up with the dysfunction and mean spiritedness. Isnt that a good thing? He's not demanding more shots or sulking over not being the highest paid player. He's furious that the team suck.
Knicks fans call Melo a loser because he purportedly doesnt care about winning. And KP is entitled and bratty because he react badly to all the losing. Knicks fans need to get their shit together.
can't believe how many Knicks fans would be excited by deals like Bradley, Crowder and the Celtics pick... are we trying to win a title or be a 40 win team? Just curious.
Ainge is a ruthless trader -- people dont like dealing with him because he feels he has to kill on every trade. And here Phil is thinking with his dick and not his head. I just feel like the end game is that Ainge gives us one really good pick (#3) and then a bunch of players Ainge doesnt want to pay anyway.
One of these guys is frustrated with the culture and the shenanigans that have plagued this team for decades, and the other one is trying to win a pissing match. If you can't figure out who's who by now...
Ainge is a ruthless trader -- people dont like dealing with him because he feels he has to kill on every trade. And here Phil is thinking with his dick and not his head. I just feel like the end game is that Ainge gives us one really good pick (#3) and then a bunch of players Ainge doesnt want to pay anyway.
I suspect this is what happens (if KP is dealt) we get guys like Smart/Crowder and 2 picks from the Celtics, KP goes on to be a monster in Boston and we battle for the 7 seed wooo
That's why I wouldn't move him. It's Booker, #4 plus. Like I've said on previous threads KP has done things that no player in NBA history has done in his first two years, 2000 pts, 1000 rebounds 100 3's and 250 blocks. Need a shitload or forget about it. Not all good employees need to be chummy with their boss. Just productive.
Why would Phoenix deal Booker for KP? They are both about the same age and Booker will be an unstoppable offensive player...think Kay Thompson x 2. And you guys want the 4th pick thrown in...lol. KP has all the ability in the world but a lot of stuff that has happened this past year is a little alarming (regressed this year as a player both offensively and defensively, attitude, etc...). If you get 2 assets (chriss and 4th pick) you make that deal. You guys expect a return as if u r trading the Greek Freak
wouldn't personally do Booker and 4 but so far that's the only "proposed" deal where I could accept it. That said the Suns apparently have told ALL teams they won't move Booker and why would they? Suns minus Booker and the pick are Bledsoe/KP/Chriss/Bender... meh
Suns minus Bender or Chriss but keeping Booker
Bledsoe/Booker/KP/Chriss or Bender... that's intriguing.
Why would Phoenix deal Booker for KP? They are both about the same age and Booker will be an unstoppable offensive player...think Kay Thompson x 2. And you guys want the 4th pick thrown in...lol. KP has all the ability in the world but a lot of stuff that has happened this past year is a little alarming (regressed this year as a player both offensively and defensively, attitude, etc...). If you get 2 assets (chriss and 4th pick) you make that deal. You guys expect a return as if u r trading the Greek Freak
Umm what? KP is a much better player than booker. I say this as a booker fan. He's a better offensive prospect than klay Thompson. He's a shit tom worse defensively. KP has much better 2 way potential. Booker and #4...I'll passz
Ainge is a ruthless trader -- people dont like dealing with him because he feels he has to kill on every trade. And here Phil is thinking with his dick and not his head. I just feel like the end game is that Ainge gives us one really good pick (#3) and then a bunch of players Ainge doesnt want to pay anyway.
I suspect this is what happens (if KP is dealt) we get guys like Smart/Crowder and 2 picks from the Celtics, KP goes on to be a monster in Boston and we battle for the 7 seed wooo
This will happen. Book it. Phil has shown no indication through his time here or before that he can put aside his own ego for the betterment of the franchise. He's a trainwreck of a GM and a KP trade for Smart, Crowder, and the #3 would be his piece de resistance. If that were to happen, I'd be done rooting for this franchise and I'd consider becoming a BK Nets fan. They might suck and have a terrible short-term future but they don't seem to be in anywhere near a toxic situation as the Knicks.
Why would Phoenix deal Booker for KP? They are both about the same age and Booker will be an unstoppable offensive player...think Kay Thompson x 2. And you guys want the 4th pick thrown in...lol. KP has all the ability in the world but a lot of stuff that has happened this past year is a little alarming (regressed this year as a player both offensively and defensively, attitude, etc...). If you get 2 assets (chriss and 4th pick) you make that deal. You guys expect a return as if u r trading the Greek Freak
The issue is... Greek Freak himself wasn't "that good" until mid-season 2016 (I've loved him since day 1, honestly going over the top to support him despite his numbers) but first 2 seasons- 13.1 PER, .80 WS/48... first 3 seasons 15.3 PER, 0.96 WS/48
KP first 2 seasons 17.6 PER, .101 WS/48
These offers/ideas are valued as if KP is 25-26 and "is what he is" (which is already very, very good despite 3 coaches, tons of teammates etc)
can't believe how many Knicks fans would be excited by deals like Bradley, Crowder and the Celtics pick... are we trying to win a title or be a 40 win team? Just curious.
This is what I don't get it. Also, I guess Woj isn't making this up because he hates the Knicks huh? I'm still shocked by that interview last night.
For Big Chief Triangle all about creating a winning culture, he sure has a strange way of doing it. Treating your 2 best players like shit in the public. Next year should be fun.
that secretly wishes that a shitty trade with the Celtics goes through and the final years of Phil's life are spent watching his legacy as a coach be forgotten and his tenure as a GM define our collective memory. A fitting end to this miserable egomaniac's career. Watch the very thing--his own bloated self-importance--that is driving this behavior be punctured by the media.
but I don't know what anyone can offer that would make me even think about it. I guess Boston can put a package together that would make me think, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger. KP is a building block that you would pray an early draft pick would turn into.
I don't know if this is an ego thing with Phil or if he's trying to send a message to the kid, but I don't like it at all. I'm not excusing KP's behavior either.
It seems the new theme is anti-management, which is dumb. It's his employer and he should tell them how he feels in his exit interview if he wants to do things the right way. There is no justifying skipping a meeting with your bosses.
that secretly wishes that a shitty trade with the Celtics goes through and the final years of Phil's life are spent watching his legacy as a coach be forgotten and his tenure as a GM define our collective memory. A fitting end to this miserable egomaniac's career. Watch the very thing--his own bloated self-importance--that is driving this behavior be punctured by the media.
If there is any part of you that hopes we make a devastating trade because you don't like our president who will continue to make $20M, than you are a terrible fan and you should step away from the game for a little while.
that secretly wishes that a shitty trade with the Celtics goes through and the final years of Phil's life are spent watching his legacy as a coach be forgotten and his tenure as a GM define our collective memory. A fitting end to this miserable egomaniac's career. Watch the very thing--his own bloated self-importance--that is driving this behavior be punctured by the media.
The only ones that suffer from this are Knicks fans. It won't bother Phil in the least. He'll ride off into the sunset, smoke peyote day and night and laugh his ass off on the beach while thinking about how to spend the fortune he stole from Dolan. Us Knicks fans left with the aftermath
but I don't know what anyone can offer that would make me even think about it. I guess Boston can put a package together that would make me think, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger. KP is a building block that you would pray an early draft pick would turn into.
I don't know if this is an ego thing with Phil or if he's trying to send a message to the kid, but I don't like it at all. I'm not excusing KP's behavior either.
It seems the new theme is anti-management, which is dumb. It's his employer and he should tell them how he feels in his exit interview if he wants to do things the right way. There is no justifying skipping a meeting with your bosses.
skipping the meeting is one thing, you can call it a a lapse in judgement or whatever bit the continuing not answering hornaceks and phils calls is worrisome
has systematically failed at their job and shows little indication of taking accountability for their actions, but instead puts its employees out to dry, I see little reason why an employee should feel obliged to go to a meeting.
Now someone will respond with some sanctimonious bullshit about the sanctity of contracts, but let's be clear: management would tear up KP's contract to shreds and write up an even more limiting one if it could and vice versa for a player. It's a question of power and I don't fault KP for exercising it when management has not given him any reason to give it the benefit of the doubt. And the fact that KP is a millionaire isn't going to distract me from that underlying issue.
This new theme on bbi is so beyond stupid and unrealistic.
He's employed by the Knicks. He should follow their rules. This ridiculous idea that these players should do whatever they want when they disagree with how the team is run is stupid.
RE: RE: I guess it can't hurt to listen to offers,
but I don't know what anyone can offer that would make me even think about it. I guess Boston can put a package together that would make me think, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger. KP is a building block that you would pray an early draft pick would turn into.
I don't know if this is an ego thing with Phil or if he's trying to send a message to the kid, but I don't like it at all. I'm not excusing KP's behavior either.
It seems the new theme is anti-management, which is dumb. It's his employer and he should tell them how he feels in his exit interview if he wants to do things the right way. There is no justifying skipping a meeting with your bosses.
skipping the meeting is one thing, you can call it a a lapse in judgement or whatever bit the continuing not answering hornaceks and phils calls is worrisome
So "be worried" for now. He wants to stay, his brother has openly said that, nothing to indicate he doesn't. Fly over and meet with him. You can send Hornacek all you want but be a man, a 71 year old man and speak face to face. Air out your issues.
2) Bookers a nice player but he's terrible on D. I'm sure he'll better but who knows.
3) KP is an elite rim protector. Combined with his skills, do you know how hard it is to find that? Big part of KPs appeal is the ability to construct a good defense around him.
4) I can't believe some of these trade offers fans are suggesting. Some guy proposed Saric, future 1st and 4 2nd round picks. I can't believe this.
5) He skipped an exit interview and it was a mistake. You don't think other young players have made mistakes? Under Phil alone, Pippen sat out the final play in the ECF, Shaq skipped exit interviews and Drose just flat out skipped a game. Hell Magic Johnson got a coach fired early in his career. KP made one mistake,not a big one. Forgive him and move on.
Lastly- fuck Phil jackson. This is why you don't give him this offseason. Would any other GM in the league be acting like this?
nygiants16 : 9:14 am : link : reply
the player who has been ridiculed the most doesnt even eant to leave...
Or does he? At this point getting the word out to his fans that he wants to stay might be covering his own butt to look like the good guy here. He might be fine with being traded after all this bs.
you would think melo would be banging down the door
because his life is in NY? he has made his money... why would he bang down the door to leave? you are running out of excuses
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lets pretend Janis pushed his brother to do this... and to ignore the texts... and to be upset... THAT'S a reason you sell low on a 21 year old player the ENTIRE league wants? You trade Porzingis in a deal where the return is "holy shit" not "seems reasonably fair if things work out". Outside of those on here who think KP is nothing special, is there anyone on here who doubts KP isn't going to be at WORST a 3rd best player on a contending team? And at best (if everything works out) a franchise player? Stars win rings, not this silly idea that Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder types (while nice players) move the needle.
who said anything about selling low? every single report says knicks asking price is absurdly high, who is selling low?
Someone on this very thread suggested Bender, 4 and the Suns 2020 pick. You just suggested the Suns offer but we get their 2018 pick. That is selling low.
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everyone says no one wants to go to the knicks, they are in shambles ans the player who has been ridiculed the most doesnt even eant to leave...
you would think melo would be banging down the door
because his life is in NY? he has made his money... why would he bang down the door to leave? you are running out of excuses
because he has won nothing and everyone considers him a loser?
you would think he woukd want to leave to try and win a championship at this point
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lets pretend Janis pushed his brother to do this... and to ignore the texts... and to be upset... THAT'S a reason you sell low on a 21 year old player the ENTIRE league wants? You trade Porzingis in a deal where the return is "holy shit" not "seems reasonably fair if things work out". Outside of those on here who think KP is nothing special, is there anyone on here who doubts KP isn't going to be at WORST a 3rd best player on a contending team? And at best (if everything works out) a franchise player? Stars win rings, not this silly idea that Avery Bradley and Jae Crowder types (while nice players) move the needle.
who said anything about selling low? every single report says knicks asking price is absurdly high, who is selling low?
Someone on this very thread suggested Bender, 4 and the Suns 2020 pick. You just suggested the Suns offer but we get their 2018 pick. That is selling low.
i never said the suns pick, i said any offer has to include a pick in 201i whenre you can get top 5, did i mention the suns?
i also said no deal from the suns is worth considering unless booker is involved, never said i would do chriss or bender and 4 for kp never...
basically pony up or no reason to deal him
no
That's fair to me but I doubt the suns would do that. They're left with just KP and pretty much nothing else.
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this, suns do not have enough to make me want to do a trade...
top 5 this year is nice but next years picks are the value and like dan said they might be too good to get top 5...
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To is Boston. I want the 3rd pick this year and the Nets pick next year just to start. I'd also ask for Jaylen Brown and possibly another first in 2019 or a few seconds in 2017/2018.
this, suns do not have enough to make me want to do a trade...
top 5 this year is nice but next years picks are the value and like dan said they might be too good to get top 5...
Well, if you're dealing KP for picks/young players (e.g. Booker), then they need to go all in on the tank and move Melo. Increase the odds of their 2018 #1 being top 5 along with the Nets.
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To is Boston. I want the 3rd pick this year and the Nets pick next year just to start. I'd also ask for Jaylen Brown and possibly another first in 2019 or a few seconds in 2017/2018.
this, suns do not have enough to make me want to do a trade...
top 5 this year is nice but next years picks are the value and like dan said they might be too good to get top 5...
Well, if you're dealing KP for picks/young players (e.g. Booker), then they need to go all in on the tank and move Melo. Increase the odds of their 2018 #1 being top 5 along with the Nets.
absolutely true, say knicks did brown 3 and bkn first for kp...
trade melo and knicks suck again...
imagine having a core of jackson, brown, say monk at 8, willy then 2 of doncic, ayton or porter?
you are set for the next 10 years
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than just skipping the exit interview. It just doesn't make sense.
i think its more about kp ignoring hornacek and phils overtures to speak to him, i think him skipping the exit meeting was one thing and they understood he was frustrated but not responding to them i think that is ehat is fueling everything
What is the definitive reporting on this?
I think you approach this from too negative a position on KP. Even the "good story" one could tell about Phil Jackson -- the successful coach -- has him being a button pusher. We see that in everything he's done here too. So to frame this as they just want to talk and be all nice I think ignores the fact that Phil's approach is to intentionally be an asshole.
Look, the basis of all this is that KP is fed up with the dysfunction and mean spiritedness. Isnt that a good thing? He's not demanding more shots or sulking over not being the highest paid player. He's furious that the team suck.
Knicks fans call Melo a loser because he purportedly doesnt care about winning. And KP is entitled and bratty because he react badly to all the losing. Knicks fans need to get their shit together.
And you would suggest a deal like Chriss and 4 or Bender and 4 is a "value" deal?
I suspect this is what happens (if KP is dealt) we get guys like Smart/Crowder and 2 picks from the Celtics, KP goes on to be a monster in Boston and we battle for the 7 seed wooo
Suns minus Bender or Chriss but keeping Booker
Bledsoe/Booker/KP/Chriss or Bender... that's intriguing.
Umm what? KP is a much better player than booker. I say this as a booker fan. He's a better offensive prospect than klay Thompson. He's a shit tom worse defensively. KP has much better 2 way potential. Booker and #4...I'll passz
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Ainge is a ruthless trader -- people dont like dealing with him because he feels he has to kill on every trade. And here Phil is thinking with his dick and not his head. I just feel like the end game is that Ainge gives us one really good pick (#3) and then a bunch of players Ainge doesnt want to pay anyway.
I suspect this is what happens (if KP is dealt) we get guys like Smart/Crowder and 2 picks from the Celtics, KP goes on to be a monster in Boston and we battle for the 7 seed wooo
This will happen. Book it. Phil has shown no indication through his time here or before that he can put aside his own ego for the betterment of the franchise. He's a trainwreck of a GM and a KP trade for Smart, Crowder, and the #3 would be his piece de resistance. If that were to happen, I'd be done rooting for this franchise and I'd consider becoming a BK Nets fan. They might suck and have a terrible short-term future but they don't seem to be in anywhere near a toxic situation as the Knicks.
Either that or give up rooting for any team.
The issue is... Greek Freak himself wasn't "that good" until mid-season 2016 (I've loved him since day 1, honestly going over the top to support him despite his numbers) but first 2 seasons- 13.1 PER, .80 WS/48... first 3 seasons 15.3 PER, 0.96 WS/48
KP first 2 seasons 17.6 PER, .101 WS/48
These offers/ideas are valued as if KP is 25-26 and "is what he is" (which is already very, very good despite 3 coaches, tons of teammates etc)
This is what I don't get it. Also, I guess Woj isn't making this up because he hates the Knicks huh? I'm still shocked by that interview last night.
For Big Chief Triangle all about creating a winning culture, he sure has a strange way of doing it. Treating your 2 best players like shit in the public. Next year should be fun.
Aldridge looked old and slow, contract is good but I can't imagine anyone in the top 10 does this unless... #Knicks
I don't know if this is an ego thing with Phil or if he's trying to send a message to the kid, but I don't like it at all. I'm not excusing KP's behavior either.
It seems the new theme is anti-management, which is dumb. It's his employer and he should tell them how he feels in his exit interview if he wants to do things the right way. There is no justifying skipping a meeting with your bosses.
If there is any part of you that hopes we make a devastating trade because you don't like our president who will continue to make $20M, than you are a terrible fan and you should step away from the game for a little while.
Aldridge looked old and slow, contract is good but I can't imagine anyone in the top 10 does this unless... #Knicks
apparently they were talking to kongs aboit 1 of their picks...
Walker
Batum
MKG
Aldridge
Dwight
Bench-
Frank
Lamb
Marvin Williams
The only ones that suffer from this are Knicks fans. It won't bother Phil in the least. He'll ride off into the sunset, smoke peyote day and night and laugh his ass off on the beach while thinking about how to spend the fortune he stole from Dolan. Us Knicks fans left with the aftermath
I don't know if this is an ego thing with Phil or if he's trying to send a message to the kid, but I don't like it at all. I'm not excusing KP's behavior either.
It seems the new theme is anti-management, which is dumb. It's his employer and he should tell them how he feels in his exit interview if he wants to do things the right way. There is no justifying skipping a meeting with your bosses.
skipping the meeting is one thing, you can call it a a lapse in judgement or whatever bit the continuing not answering hornaceks and phils calls is worrisome
Now someone will respond with some sanctimonious bullshit about the sanctity of contracts, but let's be clear: management would tear up KP's contract to shreds and write up an even more limiting one if it could and vice versa for a player. It's a question of power and I don't fault KP for exercising it when management has not given him any reason to give it the benefit of the doubt. And the fact that KP is a millionaire isn't going to distract me from that underlying issue.
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but I don't know what anyone can offer that would make me even think about it. I guess Boston can put a package together that would make me think, but I don't think I'd pull the trigger. KP is a building block that you would pray an early draft pick would turn into.
I don't know if this is an ego thing with Phil or if he's trying to send a message to the kid, but I don't like it at all. I'm not excusing KP's behavior either.
It seems the new theme is anti-management, which is dumb. It's his employer and he should tell them how he feels in his exit interview if he wants to do things the right way. There is no justifying skipping a meeting with your bosses.
skipping the meeting is one thing, you can call it a a lapse in judgement or whatever bit the continuing not answering hornaceks and phils calls is worrisome
So "be worried" for now. He wants to stay, his brother has openly said that, nothing to indicate he doesn't. Fly over and meet with him. You can send Hornacek all you want but be a man, a 71 year old man and speak face to face. Air out your issues.