44 and 58 to move up, begely specualting its josh hart
good luck. The 58th pick has close to zero value.
josh hart is mocked to go early 2nd, my guess is they are packaging those 2 to jjst move up in the 2md round..
yeah, and I'm saying I have doubts that any team is going to take 44 and 58 for an early second rounder. The drop off from the first half of the second round to the second half is huge. Usually, it's easy to buy those late second rounders because teams with roster crunches can't use them.
Spurs want a top 10 pick for him...meanwhile the Knicks have to buy out Melo. If that doesnt tell you how bad Phil is at his job I dont know what will.
there is a difference between wanting a top 10 pick and getting a top 10 pick, anyone who trades a top 10 pick for aldrisge is a fucking moron
agree on that. the point is that one guy is setting value high, while the other guy has his hitman, Rosen, writing an article on all of KP's flaws and why he should be dealt (after saying that Melo sucks and that he has to be traded). Setting market vs. devaluing assets.
44 and 58 to move up, begely specualting its josh hart
good luck. The 58th pick has close to zero value.
josh hart is mocked to go early 2nd, my guess is they are packaging those 2 to jjst move up in the 2md round..
yeah, and I'm saying I have doubts that any team is going to take 44 and 58 for an early second rounder. The drop off from the first half of the second round to the second half is huge. Usually, it's easy to buy those late second rounders because teams with roster crunches can't use them.
yeah i get ehat you are saying, probably wont know if it works until that pick comes...
portland almost has to trade a contract with the salary cap dropping thwy are over the luxury tax..
Is world wide windhorst serious? Either yesterday or a few days ago he reports that the Cavs had a deal in place for Kevin Love for the Suns 4th pick to flip for Paul George. Now he completely dismissing any chance of moving Love for PG or Butler due to lack of interest in Love. Can he atleast admit he was dead wrong a few days ago? Was he lied to or was he just completely making shit up.
This is the same guy who was declaring on sportscenter that lebron wasn't going to Cleveland... just as Lebron was announcing he was returning to Cle.
I know there's ton of bad NBA reporters but he takes the cake.
Is world wide windhorst serious? Either yesterday or a few days ago he reports that the Cavs had a deal in place for Kevin Love for the Suns 4th pick to flip for Paul George. Now he completely dismissing any chance of moving Love for PG or Butler due to lack of interest in Love. Can he atleast admit he was dead wrong a few days ago? Was he lied to or was he just completely making shit up.
This is the same guy who was declaring on sportscenter that lebron wasn't going to Cleveland... just as Lebron was announcing he was returning to Cle.
I know there's ton of bad NBA reporters but he takes the cake.
not defending windbag but a lot reporters are speculating griffin leaked that to make the cavs look bad
It looks like he's a sports radio host in Phoenix but you never know with these things...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 41m41 minutes ago
Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
The #Suns have gotten numerous calls on 4th pick & held firm their preference is to make the pick unless they get blown away #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
I am told #Suns hv said they will not give up Booker in any deal, or two young players, but would trade a vet and young guy for #Porzingis
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
...multiple players and multiple picks for #Porzingis, they are now at 2 players and a pick. And like a player and a pick for Porzingis.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
In the last 12 hours the #Knicks have become much more flexible in trying to make a deal for a top 5 pick. They started at...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
Source tells me #Suns are hesitant to deal two players and the pick for #Porzingis "won't do two players"
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
#NBA Source tells me #Knicks have told #Porzingis a #Suns deal is close, Porzingis brother told my source the deal is "likely" #NBADraft
But how do you go from reporting that they had a deal agreed upon for the 4th pick to Love not generating enough interest in 48 hours. Griffin doesn't matter that much.
It's just lame that he could throw out complete bullshit and not be held accountable.
It looks like he's a sports radio host in Phoenix but you never know with these things...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 41m41 minutes ago
Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
The #Suns have gotten numerous calls on 4th pick & held firm their preference is to make the pick unless they get blown away #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
I am told #Suns hv said they will not give up Booker in any deal, or two young players, but would trade a vet and young guy for #Porzingis
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
...multiple players and multiple picks for #Porzingis, they are now at 2 players and a pick. And like a player and a pick for Porzingis.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
In the last 12 hours the #Knicks have become much more flexible in trying to make a deal for a top 5 pick. They started at...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
Source tells me #Suns are hesitant to deal two players and the pick for #Porzingis "won't do two players"
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
#NBA Source tells me #Knicks have told #Porzingis a #Suns deal is close, Porzingis brother told my source the deal is "likely" #NBADraft
I have no problem trading Porzingis. But these deals are bullshit and horseshit squared. I would need Booker, the 4th pick, next year's pick, and a fucking swap down the line.
It looks like he's a sports radio host in Phoenix but you never know with these things...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 41m41 minutes ago
Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
The #Suns have gotten numerous calls on 4th pick & held firm their preference is to make the pick unless they get blown away #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
I am told #Suns hv said they will not give up Booker in any deal, or two young players, but would trade a vet and young guy for #Porzingis
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
...multiple players and multiple picks for #Porzingis, they are now at 2 players and a pick. And like a player and a pick for Porzingis.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
In the last 12 hours the #Knicks have become much more flexible in trying to make a deal for a top 5 pick. They started at...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
Source tells me #Suns are hesitant to deal two players and the pick for #Porzingis "won't do two players"
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
#NBA Source tells me #Knicks have told #Porzingis a #Suns deal is close, Porzingis brother told my source the deal is "likely" #NBADraft
I have no problem trading Porzingis. But these deals are bullshit and horseshit squared. I would need Booker, the 4th pick, next year's pick, and a fucking swap down the line.
Gimme Bender too and take Noah
I guess it would have to be a 2019 unprotected pick
But how do you go from reporting that they had a deal agreed upon for the 4th pick to Love not generating enough interest in 48 hours. Griffin doesn't matter that much.
It's just lame that he could throw out complete bullshit and not be held accountable.
tyree we argue a lot on here, but i agree with you 100 percent on this, writers can get 95 percent wromg amd that 1 thing right they are revered for it...
i hate woj as a writer but no one comes close breaking stories
If Phil makes removing Noah a part of any KP deal,
Ugh. Nice player but he's always hurt and you only control him for 2 years. But I totally buy that Phil is looking to acquire vets so that he can get us to 45 wins or some bullshit and declare victory.
Isiah was bad, but there's been plenty of GMs who've made horrific trades involving draft picks that end up in the lottery. That's sort of a normal thing in the NBA. But what Phil is doing with KP is next-level malpractice.
Ugh. Nice player but he's always hurt and you only control him for 2 years. But I totally buy that Phil is looking to acquire vets so that he can get us to 45 wins or some bullshit and declare victory.
You aren't excited by the prospect of giving Bledsoe 5 for 205 in 2 years?
It helps. Bleadsoe, Melo, Criss, Willy. #4&8 would be Jackson and Monk. If we could move Lee for a Portland pick it's starts a nice rebuild.
Actually, cap wise, the better fit is Lee and KP for Bledsoe, Criss and the #8.
That would also allow the Knicks to spin off Bledsoe to another team with Melo to make the deal more palatable. For example, do the Cavs become more willing to deal Kyrie Irving in a deal for Melo (to a third team) if they are getting back Bledsoe?
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
Ian Begley @IanBegley 2m2 minutes ago
Opposing executives say MIN is considering using No. 7 pick as part of package for a Butler trade: http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0669588485790767196-4
Steve PopperVerified account @StevePopper 5m5 minutes ago
Jay Williams just said that talking to a top 15 player in this draft the player told him Phil was falling in and out of sleep during workout
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
THIS is hysterical.
ALL of those clubs would hang up laughing all the way at those trade offers.
It is one thing to like a player, it is another thing to have have delusional valuations on a player.
Steve PopperVerified account @StevePopper 5m5 minutes ago
Jay Williams just said that talking to a top 15 player in this draft the player told him Phil was falling in and out of sleep during workout
funny because everything we have heard from prospects was phil has been very active in the workouts...
there was a 2nd rounder i forfet who who said phil was on the court teaching...
but Pho has to throw in a #1 in 2020/1 that is unprotected.
Then trade Melo to Clev for two future #1s
That way you stockpile number one picks and your core is:
Jackson
Smith/Monk
Bender
Then you get another top 3 pick next year. Maybe even the #1 pick.
I love KP but he already has foot/leg problems. Might be the safer bet to deal him if you can get a haul in return
First off, I am a Cavs fan living in OH. the cavs are not able to trade away any 1st round picks, and even if they could, why on earth would they trade 2 for melo??? i understand fandom, but that is outrageous!
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
THIS is hysterical.
ALL of those clubs would hang up laughing all the way at those trade offers.
It is one thing to like a player, it is another thing to have have delusional valuations on a player.
Your overall point might be true BUT say Anthony Davis (for example) suddenly asks out/becomes available... what players around the league do you think a presumably "rebuilding" team will be looking for? The KP/Bookers of the world. What is KP's floor? A very good NBA starter? His upside is what? Franchise player? How many guys under 23 do you take over KP? Keep KP.
Blazers Haven't Ruled Out Trading For LaMarcus Aldridge If Spurs Take Matching Salary: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246417/Blazers-Havent-Ruled-Out-Trading-For-LaMarcus-Aldridge-If-Spurs-Take-Matching-Salary
but Pho has to throw in a #1 in 2020/1 that is unprotected.
Then trade Melo to Clev for two future #1s
That way you stockpile number one picks and your core is:
Jackson
Smith/Monk
Bender
Then you get another top 3 pick next year. Maybe even the #1 pick.
I love KP but he already has foot/leg problems. Might be the safer bet to deal him if you can get a haul in return
First off, I am a Cavs fan living in OH. the cavs are not able to trade away any 1st round picks, and even if they could, why on earth would they trade 2 for melo??? i understand fandom, but that is outrageous!
The issue is the Cavs can't trade their picks until 2021 and 2023 which reduces their value via trade. The flip side is at that point the Cavs likely aren't very good and the picks are valuable.
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
THIS is hysterical.
ALL of those clubs would hang up laughing all the way at those trade offers.
It is one thing to like a player, it is another thing to have have delusional valuations on a player.
Similar to how the rest of the league is laughing at the Knicks for shopping Porzingis around? I also said it wasn't happening.
Giannis- no chance
KAT and Brow- you ever know but highly highly doubtful
Jokic- it's close. If I'm Denver I would do it. KP is an elite rim protector. I don't think people realize how unique that is with his shooting. I would venture to say many NBA execs would pick Porzingis over Jokic.
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Asking out of SAS is a red flag.
Too much pressure. People actually expect you to be present and good during the postseason.
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44 and 58 to move up, begely specualting its josh hart
good luck. The 58th pick has close to zero value.
josh hart is mocked to go early 2nd, my guess is they are packaging those 2 to jjst move up in the 2md round..
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is now asking to be traded.
Asking out of SAS is a red flag.
Too much pressure. People actually expect you to be present and good during the postseason.
that's him in a nutshell. He wants to "be the man" without any of the responsibility.
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44 and 58 to move up, begely specualting its josh hart
good luck. The 58th pick has close to zero value.
josh hart is mocked to go early 2nd, my guess is they are packaging those 2 to jjst move up in the 2md round..
yeah, and I'm saying I have doubts that any team is going to take 44 and 58 for an early second rounder. The drop off from the first half of the second round to the second half is huge. Usually, it's easy to buy those late second rounders because teams with roster crunches can't use them.
Thank G.
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is now asking to be traded.
LMA is sort of a bitch.
Spurs want a top 10 pick for him...meanwhile the Knicks have to buy out Melo. If that doesnt tell you how bad Phil is at his job I dont know what will.
there is a difference between wanting a top 10 pick and getting a top 10 pick, anyone who trades a top 10 pick for aldrisge is a fucking moron
agree on that. the point is that one guy is setting value high, while the other guy has his hitman, Rosen, writing an article on all of KP's flaws and why he should be dealt (after saying that Melo sucks and that he has to be traded). Setting market vs. devaluing assets.
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44 and 58 to move up, begely specualting its josh hart
good luck. The 58th pick has close to zero value.
josh hart is mocked to go early 2nd, my guess is they are packaging those 2 to jjst move up in the 2md round..
yeah, and I'm saying I have doubts that any team is going to take 44 and 58 for an early second rounder. The drop off from the first half of the second round to the second half is huge. Usually, it's easy to buy those late second rounders because teams with roster crunches can't use them.
yeah i get ehat you are saying, probably wont know if it works until that pick comes...
portland almost has to trade a contract with the salary cap dropping thwy are over the luxury tax..
This is the same guy who was declaring on sportscenter that lebron wasn't going to Cleveland... just as Lebron was announcing he was returning to Cle.
I know there's ton of bad NBA reporters but he takes the cake.
This is the same guy who was declaring on sportscenter that lebron wasn't going to Cleveland... just as Lebron was announcing he was returning to Cle.
I know there's ton of bad NBA reporters but he takes the cake.
not defending windbag but a lot reporters are speculating griffin leaked that to make the cavs look bad
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 41m41 minutes ago
Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
The #Suns have gotten numerous calls on 4th pick & held firm their preference is to make the pick unless they get blown away #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
I am told #Suns hv said they will not give up Booker in any deal, or two young players, but would trade a vet and young guy for #Porzingis
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
...multiple players and multiple picks for #Porzingis, they are now at 2 players and a pick. And like a player and a pick for Porzingis.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
In the last 12 hours the #Knicks have become much more flexible in trying to make a deal for a top 5 pick. They started at...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
Source tells me #Suns are hesitant to deal two players and the pick for #Porzingis "won't do two players"
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
#NBA Source tells me #Knicks have told #Porzingis a #Suns deal is close, Porzingis brother told my source the deal is "likely" #NBADraft
But how do you go from reporting that they had a deal agreed upon for the 4th pick to Love not generating enough interest in 48 hours. Griffin doesn't matter that much.
It's just lame that he could throw out complete bullshit and not be held accountable.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 41m41 minutes ago
Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
The #Suns have gotten numerous calls on 4th pick & held firm their preference is to make the pick unless they get blown away #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
I am told #Suns hv said they will not give up Booker in any deal, or two young players, but would trade a vet and young guy for #Porzingis
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
...multiple players and multiple picks for #Porzingis, they are now at 2 players and a pick. And like a player and a pick for Porzingis.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
In the last 12 hours the #Knicks have become much more flexible in trying to make a deal for a top 5 pick. They started at...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
Source tells me #Suns are hesitant to deal two players and the pick for #Porzingis "won't do two players"
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
#NBA Source tells me #Knicks have told #Porzingis a #Suns deal is close, Porzingis brother told my source the deal is "likely" #NBADraft
I have no problem trading Porzingis. But these deals are bullshit and horseshit squared. I would need Booker, the 4th pick, next year's pick, and a fucking swap down the line.
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It looks like he's a sports radio host in Phoenix but you never know with these things...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 41m41 minutes ago
Another source tells me #Suns & #Knicks are in fact "down the road" on #Porzingis ..."Bledsoe, Chriss, and the 4th gets it done" #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
The #Suns have gotten numerous calls on 4th pick & held firm their preference is to make the pick unless they get blown away #NBADraft
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 1h1 hour ago
I am told #Suns hv said they will not give up Booker in any deal, or two young players, but would trade a vet and young guy for #Porzingis
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
...multiple players and multiple picks for #Porzingis, they are now at 2 players and a pick. And like a player and a pick for Porzingis.
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
In the last 12 hours the #Knicks have become much more flexible in trying to make a deal for a top 5 pick. They started at...
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
Source tells me #Suns are hesitant to deal two players and the pick for #Porzingis "won't do two players"
Tim Montemayor @TheMontyShow 2h2 hours ago
#NBA Source tells me #Knicks have told #Porzingis a #Suns deal is close, Porzingis brother told my source the deal is "likely" #NBADraft
I have no problem trading Porzingis. But these deals are bullshit and horseshit squared. I would need Booker, the 4th pick, next year's pick, and a fucking swap down the line.
Gimme Bender too and take Noah
Phoenix has Miami's pick next year (1-7 protected and unprotected in 2019)
It'd be the definition of a 4 quarters for a dollar trade.
But how do you go from reporting that they had a deal agreed upon for the 4th pick to Love not generating enough interest in 48 hours. Griffin doesn't matter that much.
It's just lame that he could throw out complete bullshit and not be held accountable.
tyree we argue a lot on here, but i agree with you 100 percent on this, writers can get 95 percent wromg amd that 1 thing right they are revered for it...
i hate woj as a writer but no one comes close breaking stories
Making a team absorb Noah's contract diminishes the return on the deal, especially when cap room isn't our biggest concern right now.
Let's not forget that Phil's first signing...was a crack head.
Isiah was bad, but there's been plenty of GMs who've made horrific trades involving draft picks that end up in the lottery. That's sort of a normal thing in the NBA. But what Phil is doing with KP is next-level malpractice.
You aren't excited by the prospect of giving Bledsoe 5 for 205 in 2 years?
Actually, cap wise, the better fit is Lee and KP for Bledsoe, Criss and the #8.
That would also allow the Knicks to spin off Bledsoe to another team with Melo to make the deal more palatable. For example, do the Cavs become more willing to deal Kyrie Irving in a deal for Melo (to a third team) if they are getting back Bledsoe?
You seriously do that?
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
Ian Begley @IanBegley 2m2 minutes ago
Opposing executives say MIN is considering using No. 7 pick as part of package for a Butler trade: http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0669588485790767196-4
Jay Williams just said that talking to a top 15 player in this draft the player told him Phil was falling in and out of sleep during workout
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#5, #10 & Hield?
You seriously do that?
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
THIS is hysterical.
ALL of those clubs would hang up laughing all the way at those trade offers.
It is one thing to like a player, it is another thing to have have delusional valuations on a player.
Jay Williams just said that talking to a top 15 player in this draft the player told him Phil was falling in and out of sleep during workout
funny because everything we have heard from prospects was phil has been very active in the workouts...
there was a 2nd rounder i forfet who who said phil was on the court teaching...
interesting
Then trade Melo to Clev for two future #1s
That way you stockpile number one picks and your core is:
Jackson
Smith/Monk
Bender
Then you get another top 3 pick next year. Maybe even the #1 pick.
I love KP but he already has foot/leg problems. Might be the safer bet to deal him if you can get a haul in return
First off, I am a Cavs fan living in OH. the cavs are not able to trade away any 1st round picks, and even if they could, why on earth would they trade 2 for melo??? i understand fandom, but that is outrageous!
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#5, #10 & Hield?
You seriously do that?
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
THIS is hysterical.
ALL of those clubs would hang up laughing all the way at those trade offers.
It is one thing to like a player, it is another thing to have have delusional valuations on a player.
Your overall point might be true BUT say Anthony Davis (for example) suddenly asks out/becomes available... what players around the league do you think a presumably "rebuilding" team will be looking for? The KP/Bookers of the world. What is KP's floor? A very good NBA starter? His upside is what? Franchise player? How many guys under 23 do you take over KP? Keep KP.
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but Pho has to throw in a #1 in 2020/1 that is unprotected.
Then trade Melo to Clev for two future #1s
That way you stockpile number one picks and your core is:
Jackson
Smith/Monk
Bender
Then you get another top 3 pick next year. Maybe even the #1 pick.
I love KP but he already has foot/leg problems. Might be the safer bet to deal him if you can get a haul in return
First off, I am a Cavs fan living in OH. the cavs are not able to trade away any 1st round picks, and even if they could, why on earth would they trade 2 for melo??? i understand fandom, but that is outrageous!
The issue is the Cavs can't trade their picks until 2021 and 2023 which reduces their value via trade. The flip side is at that point the Cavs likely aren't very good and the picks are valuable.
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#5, #10 & Hield?
You seriously do that?
I can't believe some of these trade offers. Did anyone watch the Suns last year? Chriss and Bender were complete garbage. And they have injury concerns about KP but not Bledsoe? Come onnnn.
You wanna talk about trading KP for Giannis, Brow, Jokic, KAT then that's obviously worth a discussion but also not happening. You just don't trade a guy like this at this point in his career. Case closed.
THIS is hysterical.
ALL of those clubs would hang up laughing all the way at those trade offers.
It is one thing to like a player, it is another thing to have have delusional valuations on a player.
Similar to how the rest of the league is laughing at the Knicks for shopping Porzingis around? I also said it wasn't happening.
Giannis- no chance
KAT and Brow- you ever know but highly highly doubtful
Jokic- it's close. If I'm Denver I would do it. KP is an elite rim protector. I don't think people realize how unique that is with his shooting. I would venture to say many NBA execs would pick Porzingis over Jokic.