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DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 7:56 am
Please?

Bender sucks. That is all. Please Phil
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RE: //  
aimrocky : 6/22/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13507705 DanMetroMan said:
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Steve Popper‏Verified account @StevePopper 5m5 minutes ago
Jay Williams just said that talking to a top 15 player in this draft the player told him Phil was falling in and out of sleep during workout


Statements like this make the current Media crop look like jokes. Jay Williams is a hack.
Rich in DC  
BigBlueShock : 6/22/2017 1:33 pm : link
If you would take a deep breath, the guy DID follow up his comments with "but that's obviously not happening".
Phx: needs to give up  
RAIN : 6/22/2017 1:34 pm : link
a boatload of picks if Booker isn't in the deal, and we need to get rid of salary.

Bledsoe, Chriss, #4, Sun's 2019 #1/ and Miami's 2018/2019 choice.

Still, it's depressing its come to this. If we tanked properly.. we have Porzingis and Jackson playing together.

I think KP is perennial All-Star if he stays healthy. They must really love Jackson to do this. I do too, but it was in the context of KP and Jackson playing together as a great fit. Giving up a future cornerstone because of an exit interview is risky.
The MSG Network guys  
B in ALB : 6/22/2017 1:35 pm : link
are complete Dolan shills. Absolutely pathetic takes on Jackson's interview last night.
Bledsoe  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 1:37 pm : link
is a good player but the Knicks won't be good within the next 1-2 seasons so you are adding a guy who you are either letting walk, trading somewhere else or giving 205 million from age 30 on...Booker isn't happening but Booker and #4 is the only deal I'd "live with" of the ones being suggested. Absolutely zero pressure to deal him. What happened to "monster" return or no deal?
Still hoping nothing  
Ash_3 : 6/22/2017 1:38 pm : link
materializes and we pick Monk.
RE: Still hoping nothing  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13507751 Ash_3 said:
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materializes and we pick Monk.


I'm in. I prefer DSJ but fine with Monk. Just keep KP. Please.
RE: RE: //  
TyreeHelmet : 6/22/2017 1:42 pm : link
In comment 13507739 aimrocky said:
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In comment 13507705 DanMetroMan said:


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Steve Popper‏Verified account @StevePopper 5m5 minutes ago
Jay Williams just said that talking to a top 15 player in this draft the player told him Phil was falling in and out of sleep during workout



Statements like this make the current Media crop look like jokes. Jay Williams is a hack.


I can't think any less of Phil Jackson and think he deserved to be fired awhile ago. But I agree that report is bullshit and highly doubtful.
SLAM Magazine on Twitter  
Anando : 6/22/2017 1:46 pm : link
Report: Kristaps Porzingis "likely" to be traded to the Phoenix Suns ➡️ 1:32PM EST


Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/nba/kristaps-porzingis-trade-likely-phoenix-suns/#SYpkdk5RzbDTZRsC.99
RE: Bledsoe  
rich in DC : 6/22/2017 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13507749 DanMetroMan said:
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is a good player but the Knicks won't be good within the next 1-2 seasons so you are adding a guy who you are either letting walk, trading somewhere else or giving 205 million from age 30 on...Booker isn't happening but Booker and #4 is the only deal I'd "live with" of the ones being suggested. Absolutely zero pressure to deal him. What happened to "monster" return or no deal?


Keep in mind that Bledsoe could be packaged with Melo to make a deal more palatable. Sometimes a monster deal is defined as WHERE the players involved in the deal end up.

For example, if you send Bledsoe and Melo to the Cavs in a 3 (or 4) team deal, does that free up the Cavs to include Irving in a deal?
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GiantFilthy : 6/22/2017 1:52 pm : link
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@CBSSportsNBA
James Dolan will skip NBA Draft for concert with his band, JD & The Straight Shot
RE: SLAM Magazine on Twitter  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 1:53 pm : link
In comment 13507767 Anando said:
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Report: Kristaps Porzingis "likely" to be traded to the Phoenix Suns ➡️ 1:32PM EST


Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/nba/kristaps-porzingis-trade-likely-phoenix-suns/#SYpkdk5RzbDTZRsC.99


They are citing the same radio host who posted this garbage 3 hours ago. Nothing new to see.
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DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 1:54 pm : link
The New York Knicks have "so far" been unable to find a team willing to meet their asking price for Kristaps Porzingis.

Phil Jackson admitted in an interview on the eve of the draft that the Knicks are entertaining offers for Porzingis.

The Boston Celtics are one of the teams engaged with the Knicks on Porzingis as the Knicks attempt to trade into the top-4.

Both David Aldridge and Sam Amick refute a report that the Phoenix Suns are closing in on a deal for Porzingis.

ADRIAN WOJNAROWSKI/THE VERTICAL
RE: RE: RE: I would take Bender and #4 pick for KP  
Stu11 : 6/22/2017 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13507736 DanMetroMan said:
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but Pho has to throw in a #1 in 2020/1 that is unprotected.

Then trade Melo to Clev for two future #1s

That way you stockpile number one picks and your core is:

Jackson
Smith/Monk
Bender

Then you get another top 3 pick next year. Maybe even the #1 pick.

I love KP but he already has foot/leg problems. Might be the safer bet to deal him if you can get a haul in return



First off, I am a Cavs fan living in OH. the cavs are not able to trade away any 1st round picks, and even if they could, why on earth would they trade 2 for melo??? i understand fandom, but that is outrageous!



The issue is the Cavs can't trade their picks until 2021 and 2023 which reduces their value via trade. The flip side is at that point the Cavs likely aren't very good and the picks are valuable.

Yep Dan I agree that that should probably be a trade the Knicks look at. 2021/23 Cav picks could easily be like the Nets picks the Celtics got. I could see the Cavs doing it as a last ditch attempt to win another title before the window closes.
This trade is so stupid  
Deej : 6/22/2017 1:56 pm : link
it's winning the lottery and reinvesting your winnings in more lottery tickets.
Rubio  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 1:56 pm : link
available. Lee and 58 for Rubio. Draft Monk. Keep KP. Thanks.
RE: Rubio  
Stu11 : 6/22/2017 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13507787 DanMetroMan said:
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available. Lee and 58 for Rubio. Draft Monk. Keep KP. Thanks.

pass the paper over, I'll sign for that.
RE: This trade is so stupid  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13507786 Deej said:
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it's winning the lottery and reinvesting your winnings in more lottery tickets.


I couldn't agree more. Porzingis is already very good with upside to be great (Patrick and Melo get the "look at the PG's!!!" excuse and yet 20-21 year old KP does not?) and the upside to attract other players...
RE: Rubio  
Deej : 6/22/2017 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13507787 DanMetroMan said:
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available. Lee and 58 for Rubio. Draft Monk. Keep KP. Thanks.


If they'll do that for Lee and 58, they'll do it for just Lee. Not one is signing up for $30 million of Courtney Lee if and only if they get the 58th pick in the draft.
I'll be sending Jimmy D my bill for league pass  
Ten Ton Hammer : 6/22/2017 2:03 pm : link
Suns games should be fun to watch.
RE: This trade is so stupid  
giants#1 : 6/22/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13507786 Deej said:
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it's winning the lottery and reinvesting your winnings in more lottery tickets.


Dead on description
RE: RE: Rubio  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13507801 Deej said:
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available. Lee and 58 for Rubio. Draft Monk. Keep KP. Thanks.



If they'll do that for Lee and 58, they'll do it for just Lee. Not one is signing up for $30 million of Courtney Lee if and only if they get the 58th pick in the draft.


They can throw 58 at the Bulls in their Butler package. I just really like the idea of Rubio with KP (please stay) and Willy with whomever we take at 8. Rubio isn't a great player but I truly believe he will both improve us at the 1 and help develop our bigs.
I go out to get my phone fixed  
giantsfan44ab : 6/22/2017 2:08 pm : link
and theres a trade pretty much accepted?!

Fuck man I love KP.
Booker and KP  
giantsfan44ab : 6/22/2017 2:08 pm : link
is going to be fun to watch.
We can root for Chriss to  
giantsfan44ab : 6/22/2017 2:11 pm : link
become a skinny Blake with a 3 but damn thats a dropoff from what I think KP will be.

Why Bledsoe?? He provides nothing for long term. I'd rather have Ulis and Bender.
Phil about to be  
elisha2014 : 6/22/2017 2:13 pm : link
taken to the woodshed by Danny Ainge.

Marc Stein‏Verified account @ESPNSteinLine 2m2 minutes ago
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The Celtics remain in trade pursuit of Kristaps Porzingis, league sources say, trying to assemble a package to meet the Knicks' demands.
Just a gut feeling  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:14 pm : link
But I think KP is dealt somewhere tonight.
Can someone please-PLEASE-explain to  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:15 pm : link
me the logic of trading KP to a division rival? THE DUDE IS TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD. HE'LL BE IN OUR WAY FOR THE NEXT DECADE PLUS.

If you want to trade him, trade him to Phoenix. We only see them twice a year anyways.

Ugh. KP in Celtics green...enough to want to make me puke.
Bledsoe???  
Stu11 : 6/22/2017 2:15 pm : link
Can we get the Suns to throw in his Orthopedist? We're going to need him...
Man, they must really love  
RAIN : 6/22/2017 2:15 pm : link
Josh Jackson. Even more than me.
Phoenix Radio Host  
TyreeHelmet : 6/22/2017 2:16 pm : link
That guy tweets out complete bullshit and we all fall for it. He gets his name out there, gets followers and gets clicks. Unless it's Woj, Stein, Lowe I'm not believing it.

And as I write this Stein reports the Celtics are putting together a package to meet the Knicks demands. He'll be perfect for them and man will it hurt to see him in green.

I'm against any trade, but that package better start with
2017 3rd overall
Brooklyn 2018 pick
LA/ Sac pick 2018-2019
2019 Memphis pick.

What it really will be
3rd overall
Crowder
Smart or Bradley
I  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 2:17 pm : link
think it's going to happen and some will defend Marcus Smart, Jae Crowder and #3 pick as a great move #GoodBasketballAgain #InHeavenFor7Seed
RE: Can someone please-PLEASE-explain to  
Stu11 : 6/22/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13507843 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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me the logic of trading KP to a division rival? THE DUDE IS TWENTY ONE YEARS OLD. HE'LL BE IN OUR WAY FOR THE NEXT DECADE PLUS.

If you want to trade him, trade him to Phoenix. We only see them twice a year anyways.

Ugh. KP in Celtics green...enough to want to make me puke.

Understood. However if we can get a handful of potential top 5 picks and a nice young player then we're not competing with anyone for the near future. By the time those picks hopefully come of age, The Celts will be on the down side or at least will be able to compete with that version of them. You go for the best return.
RE: I  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13507850 DanMetroMan said:
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think it's going to happen and some will defend Marcus Smart, Jae Crowder and #3 pick as a great move #GoodBasketballAgain #InHeavenFor7Seed


If that's the haul we'd get back, I'm done. Completely done.
I'm not going to say I  
giantsfan44ab : 6/22/2017 2:18 pm : link
wouldnt watch a core of Monk, Rubio, Jackson, Chriss and Willy but I'm failing to see who becomes our #1 or even #2 off the bat. I guess we will be hoping for Porter next year?
RE: RE: RE: Rubio  
Deej : 6/22/2017 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13507809 DanMetroMan said:
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available. Lee and 58 for Rubio. Draft Monk. Keep KP. Thanks.



If they'll do that for Lee and 58, they'll do it for just Lee. Not one is signing up for $30 million of Courtney Lee if and only if they get the 58th pick in the draft.



They can throw 58 at the Bulls in their Butler package. I just really like the idea of Rubio with KP (please stay) and Willy with whomever we take at 8. Rubio isn't a great player but I truly believe he will both improve us at the 1 and help develop our bigs.


I'll guarantee you that there isnt a deal for Butler that will turn on whether CHI gets the 58 pick.

The 58 pick is like two guys haggling over the last $50 bucks on a $10k used car sale. They can stomp their feet until they're blue in the face, but neither is walking away over $50. It's a battle of the wills. And the Knicks should hold out in this hypothetical trade. The 58 pick is more meaningful to them given the chaff on their roster.
If it doesn't START with #3 and next year's Brooklyn pick,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 6/22/2017 2:19 pm : link
I hang up the phone. I'm not really interested in any of their players.
RE: If it doesn't START with #3 and next year's Brooklyn pick,  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13507856 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I hang up the phone. I'm not really interested in any of their players.


At a minimum. At the bare minimum you're getting this year's 3 & the Nets pick next year. That's just the jumping off point.
Al T asked PJ why you'd trade KP  
Deej : 6/22/2017 2:20 pm : link
and Phil said "Future". How is Bledsoe "future"? How the fuck is trading a 21 year old unicorn "future"?
I'm gonna  
giantsfan44ab : 6/22/2017 2:21 pm : link
cry
RE: Al T asked PJ why you'd trade KP  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13507860 Deej said:
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and Phil said "Future". How is Bledsoe "future"? How the fuck is trading a 21 year old unicorn "future"?


Phil is completely useless. This is like the Mavs trading Dirk after his second season.

I really can't believe the Knicks are this incompetent, but they probably are. What a joke.
RE: If it doesn't START with #3 and next year's Brooklyn pick,  
giants#1 : 6/22/2017 2:21 pm : link
In comment 13507856 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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I hang up the phone. I'm not really interested in any of their players.


This. Odds of either of those picks becoming as good as KP are slim, so it better be #3 and BKN 2018 + more picks (none of the players they'd include are game changers).

Otherwise, at least my local team (TWolves) have a bright future.
RE: Al T asked PJ why you'd trade KP  
giants#1 : 6/22/2017 2:23 pm : link
In comment 13507860 Deej said:
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and Phil said "Future". How is Bledsoe "future"? How the fuck is trading a 21 year old unicorn "future"?


If it is about the future (which I doubt), then he needs to move Melo too. Suck as much as possible in 2018 and at least then ensure your own 2018 pick is top 5.
KP is 21 years old.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:24 pm : link
He just finished his second season.

And he's talking like he's some washed up 31 year old.

KP IS THE FREAKING FUTURE!
Settle down. He didn't trade him yet.  
Keith : 6/22/2017 2:25 pm : link
If he does, we can all freak out, but it's not like it was just announced that we trade KP for Bledsoe and a pick.
Relax  
Carl in CT : 6/22/2017 2:26 pm : link
It will not happen.
KP  
DanMetroMan : 6/22/2017 2:27 pm : link
will go to Boston for Crowder 3 and the Lakers 2018 pick, Lakers will add PG13 and win 42 games. Ballin!
RE: Relax  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 6/22/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13507881 Carl in CT said:
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It will not happen.


From your lips to God's ear. I just feel like this is cascading towards a move.
RE: KP  
Deej : 6/22/2017 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13507884 DanMetroMan said:
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will go to Boston for Crowder 3 and the Lakers 2018 pick, Lakers will add PG13 and win 42 games. Ballin!


Yeah there is huge risk in taking the Lakers pick. I'd want the better of the BK or LA pick in any trade (ideally both).
dailynews says  
nygiants16 : 6/22/2017 2:28 pm : link
knicks asking fir 3 next years bkn pick, crowder and brown
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