Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
I saw some tape of him getting ragdolled by guards going for rebounds. Really turned me off to him. I fear a better Steve Novak and a next potential Dirk.
Is crazy not to pony up and get prozingas. They have how many picks. They could easily package some of there lower picks c a players to move back up in the lottery. They would also have a couple lottery picks over the next couple years. If the don't use some picks to get a potential stud what are they going to do with all those picks. Phil better. It budge in the asking price
I saw some tape of him getting ragdolled by guards going for rebounds. Really turned me off to him. I fear a better Steve Novak and a next potential Dirk.
there probably isnt a player on their roster good enough to be the 2nd best player on a title team, especially as Thomas and Harford age up. So giving everything for KP is a real problem. Even two of the 3 EXPECTED premium picks (#3, BK, LA 2-5) leaves them just one chance at finding a top 2 player.
This day has been dreadful. I wish the Knicks would just announce that they're not trading him at/before the draft.
I saw some tape of him getting ragdolled by guards going for rebounds. Really turned me off to him. I fear a better Steve Novak and a next potential Dirk.
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I meant "I fear a better Steve Novak THAN a next potential Dirk.
Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
Source familiar with the talks between Knicks and Celtics told ESPN that New York's demands for Kristaps Porzingis are "ridiculous." Also the source gives the sense that Boston will likely keep its No. 3 pick to draft a player and not trade down again.
Source familiar with the talks between Knicks and Celtics told ESPN that New York's demands for Kristaps Porzingis are "ridiculous." Also the source gives the sense that Boston will likely keep its No. 3 pick to draft a player and not trade down again.
Dave McMenamin, ESPN Staff Writer
Sounds like something Ainge would say since he's usually on the other end of the "ridiculous" demands
This guy plays nothing like Porzingis. He's like a 7 foot shooting guard. I've watched a ton of him. Knicks fans will be very dissapointed in him.
I'm still shocked at some of this proposals. I really don't understand. And why wouldn't Boston give up 3 or 4 picks for him? Who are they saving these assets for? Good luck waiting for Jaylen Brown to become a go to scorer or all star.
Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
It doesn't matter how good Jae Crowder is relative to the rest of the Knicks roster. KP gives you a CHANCE at having a star player. Star players are all that matter in the context of competing in the NBA. Crowder doesn't give you a remote chance of that. Smart doesnt. Brown doesnt. I love Jackson but I dont see how he does either. Nor Markannen. Nor Isaac.
We dump KP we end up with the Celtics roster minus all the future picks. AKA a team that gets wiped by a team full of stars in the playoffs. It may not be Lebron but it could be Giannis or Simmons or Embiid.
RE: deej i never thought they would actually trade kp
but if boston is really trying to get 7 it tells me they are not far from a deal, they wouldnt be trying to get 7 without the knicks asking for it...
I could believe that Ainge is just thinking get #7 because it's a 7 or 8 player draft, and I've got more picks than I want and a ton of players Im not excited about extending. They dont have another #1 this year after 3rd overall. And Minny wants to get better, not get more assets for the future. So this suggests to me maybe just that Ainge is cashing out on Bradley or Smart a year away from FA or getting value for Crowder who I think is out of favor a bit and whose role they want to give to Brown (if he stays).
Reports are #7 for NYK, but I think #7 just fits Aigne's MO.
Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
2nd or 3rd best player because the Knicks have very little talent. Crowder is what he is. There is zero additional upside, room for growth. He's a solid player on a team that needs big time talent. Crowder doesn't move the needle. He's a guy who looks good as a role player on a good team. When he's a "main" piece he looks sub-par.
That just got swept out of the playoffs, this is the year to make a "ridiculous" trade. The rookies the Celtics draft in the next two years aren't going to get them over the hump. Adding KP would give them a legit chance and Ainge should be able to find a seller at the deadline and acquire another player for a post season run
Source familiar with the talks between Knicks and Celtics told ESPN that New York's demands for Kristaps Porzingis are "ridiculous." Also the source gives the sense that Boston will likely keep its No. 3 pick to draft a player and not trade down again.
Dave McMenamin, ESPN Staff Writer
Why are people getting worked up over the back and forth.
Its called posturing for the best deal. Both sides are gambling that the other side is more desperate than they are and give in.
Ainge is used to other teams giving in to his one-sided demands- there has been criticism in the past that what teams not involved in the trade discussions have termed as fair offers get turned down because Ainge wanted more.
Jackson has no experience in this area, and might be overasking- we only know what is reported. However, he probably knows that KP is his one asset that could bring a king's ransom. Thus, it is not necessary to make any deal- he knows that he only needs to act if the deal is one that is amazing.
I am sure we will hear that the talks have broken down, that other teams are discussing options, then the talks will resume- and then Boston will make their pick. If they pick Jackson, the rumors will start again.
We'll see if who is desperate enough to make a move.
totally different information. I've seen this guy on ESPN, good track record?
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totally different information. I've seen this guy on ESPN, good track record?
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Also, I'm told that the Celtics and Knicks haven't had any sort of progressing talks. They last spoke this morning and haven't revisited.
everyone is saying knicks and celtics are talking and working towards a deal...never heaed of thiz guy...
This is going to be so much fun three years from now
Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
I'd love to see if another player with KP's upside and skill set was traded on his rookie contract. It simply does not happen. that's why you're seeing people throw around unprecedented trade packages.
I actually do think that Brown is going to be a star.
He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
RE: This is going to be so much fun three years from now
totally different information. I've seen this guy on ESPN, good track record?
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everyone is saying knicks and celtics are talking and working towards a deal...never heaed of thiz guy...
He's legit. 130,000 followers and Begley retweeted him
RE: I actually do think that Brown is going to be a star.
He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
2nd or 3rd best player because the Knicks have very little talent. Crowder is what he is. There is zero additional upside, room for growth. He's a solid player on a team that needs big time talent. Crowder doesn't move the needle. He's a guy who looks good as a role player on a good team. When he's a "main" piece he looks sub-par.
I fully get that Crowder is nothing special and is what he is. I'm just saying he's good player, even if that doesn't do much good on a bad team. And Crowder is literally the 4th asset you'd be getting in the deal Jackson apparently wants, not he main asset, not to mention he really does have a highly desirable contract around the league. If he's the 4th asset, you've done well in the trade.
With Porzingis, while he does have the potential to be an 1 or 2 option on a championship team, the Knicks are so far from getting to that point, and it will probably not happen at any point with the current regime. So while I wouldn't trade Porzingis, you do have to evaluate whether the relationship is irreparably damaged. And while you may want Phil out, Dolan is a moron. So don't bet on it.
He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
You'd take Giannis but only if MILW added?
I meant as an add-in to a deal. He has his own cachet and will eventually be the centerpiece, not ancillary.
ESPN so who knows but I highly doubt an ESPN reporter with 130,000 twitter followers (retweeted by other writers) is making totally made up statements.
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RE: I actually do think that Brown is going to be a star.
He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
Talk about overvaluing. I like Brown but to me he's a bigger Jae Crowder. DOn't see any star in him.
RE: RE: I actually do think that Brown is going to be a star.
He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
Talk about overvaluing. I like Brown but to me he's a bigger Jae Crowder. DOn't see any star in him.
I definitely do. I think nearly I saw every game he played in last year...well, maybe not some of the west coast night games...and for his age and the trajectory from first game to last, yup, I definitely do.
Said this is probably just Danny Ainge having some fun. Also said it would take a Herschel Walker package to get him and that it has nothing to do with the exit interview. Noted that KP's camp - not the Knicks - leaked the missed exit interview.
With Porzingis, while he does have the potential to be an 1 or 2 option on a championship team, the Knicks are so far from getting to that point, and it will probably not happen at any point with the current regime. So while I wouldn't trade Porzingis, you do have to evaluate whether the relationship is irreparably damaged. And while you may want Phil out, Dolan is a moron. So don't bet on it.
Phil talks about trading KP if it is what's best for the team, but his ego driving trades is not best for the team, and his personal timeline to win a championship is not what's best for the team. Fact is that a guy like KP probably doesnt get into his "title window" best case for another 4 years. If that's not Phil's time frame, he needs to retire, because there is almost no path to getting a title in NY in the next 4 years. LeBron (wherever he is) and GSW will be murderous for at least 2 more seasons, conservatively. They may not win 2-3 more titles, but they're so good that the KNICKS have no chance of catching them in 2-3 years.
This is what I dont get about the modern NBA. A guy like Ainge gets it -- he sees that his team isnt really title competitive. Yet most teams are just plugging along looking to get marginally better. Lets get Dwight Howard! Lets trade for Aldridge! I guess if you need to sell tickets, so be it, it's a business. But otherwise any teams that is forced to go for it (e.g. LAC) should be thinking long term. If you have a Porzingis and you cant wait for him to develop, you're in the wrong business and are misreading the league.
Then draft Josh Jackson, Markannen and DSJ or Frank tonight
And hopefully we pick twice in the top 5 next year and can take two of Doncic, Ayton, Porter Jr. and Bamba
Then draft Josh Jackson, Markannen and DSJ or Frank tonight
And hopefully we pick twice in the top 5 next year and can take two of Doncic, Ayton, Porter Jr. and Bamba
I'd do that. Hard seeing Boston upping the offer that much just cuz Melo is involved though.
But how do they give get #7 if the Knicks are the ones getting Brown and Crowder?
If anything goes down I'll hope for this
Tatum(3) and Frank/Donovan Mitchell(8)
brown crowder, jackson, smith and monk?
it could be 1 hell of a young defensive team but is it enough?
If anything goes down I'll hope for this
Tatum(3) and Frank/Donovan Mitchell(8)
knicks are taking jackson at 3 if trade happens
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This day has been dreadful. I wish the Knicks would just announce that they're not trading him at/before the draft.
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I meant "I fear a better Steve Novak THAN a next potential Dirk.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
if knicks get, 3 and 7 and crowder and brown..
id go jackson at 3, monk at 7, isaac at 8
monk brown jackson isaac willy is not a bad start to a rebuild...
Source familiar with the talks between Knicks and Celtics told ESPN that New York's demands for Kristaps Porzingis are "ridiculous." Also the source gives the sense that Boston will likely keep its No. 3 pick to draft a player and not trade down again.
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Source familiar with the talks between Knicks and Celtics told ESPN that New York's demands for Kristaps Porzingis are "ridiculous." Also the source gives the sense that Boston will likely keep its No. 3 pick to draft a player and not trade down again.
Dave McMenamin, ESPN Staff Writer
Sounds like something Ainge would say since he's usually on the other end of the "ridiculous" demands
I'm still shocked at some of this proposals. I really don't understand. And why wouldn't Boston give up 3 or 4 picks for him? Who are they saving these assets for? Good luck waiting for Jaylen Brown to become a go to scorer or all star.
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Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
It doesn't matter how good Jae Crowder is relative to the rest of the Knicks roster. KP gives you a CHANCE at having a star player. Star players are all that matter in the context of competing in the NBA. Crowder doesn't give you a remote chance of that. Smart doesnt. Brown doesnt. I love Jackson but I dont see how he does either. Nor Markannen. Nor Isaac.
We dump KP we end up with the Celtics roster minus all the future picks. AKA a team that gets wiped by a team full of stars in the playoffs. It may not be Lebron but it could be Giannis or Simmons or Embiid.
I could believe that Ainge is just thinking get #7 because it's a 7 or 8 player draft, and I've got more picks than I want and a ton of players Im not excited about extending. They dont have another #1 this year after 3rd overall. And Minny wants to get better, not get more assets for the future. So this suggests to me maybe just that Ainge is cashing out on Bradley or Smart a year away from FA or getting value for Crowder who I think is out of favor a bit and whose role they want to give to Brown (if he stays).
Reports are #7 for NYK, but I think #7 just fits Aigne's MO.
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Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
2nd or 3rd best player because the Knicks have very little talent. Crowder is what he is. There is zero additional upside, room for growth. He's a solid player on a team that needs big time talent. Crowder doesn't move the needle. He's a guy who looks good as a role player on a good team. When he's a "main" piece he looks sub-par.
Source familiar with the talks between Knicks and Celtics told ESPN that New York's demands for Kristaps Porzingis are "ridiculous." Also the source gives the sense that Boston will likely keep its No. 3 pick to draft a player and not trade down again.
Dave McMenamin, ESPN Staff Writer
Why are people getting worked up over the back and forth.
Its called posturing for the best deal. Both sides are gambling that the other side is more desperate than they are and give in.
Ainge is used to other teams giving in to his one-sided demands- there has been criticism in the past that what teams not involved in the trade discussions have termed as fair offers get turned down because Ainge wanted more.
Jackson has no experience in this area, and might be overasking- we only know what is reported. However, he probably knows that KP is his one asset that could bring a king's ransom. Thus, it is not necessary to make any deal- he knows that he only needs to act if the deal is one that is amazing.
I am sure we will hear that the talks have broken down, that other teams are discussing options, then the talks will resume- and then Boston will make their pick. If they pick Jackson, the rumors will start again.
We'll see if who is desperate enough to make a move.
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everyone is saying knicks and celtics are talking and working towards a deal...never heaed of thiz guy...
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Boston can keep Crowder and his awesome contract. But #3, next years Brooklyn pick and Brown is NOT too much to ask for a 21 year old with top 10 NBA upside. All the Celtics fans sneering at this trade will be sucking KPs pee pee the first time he goes for 35 and 15. And I'm guessing the remorse will fade while Boston is playing Cleveland in the ECFs and Josh Jackson is languishing on a 10 win Knicks team putting up something like 8 and 4. Jeezus, what is wrong with you guys? Boston fans have no freaking idea how good KP can be, that much is obvious. KP will own that town if he were to go there. And I sure as hell hope he doesn't.
Crowder would be what, the 2nd or 3rd best player on your team if it traded Porzingis? So don't look down on him too much.
We know how good Porzingis can be. But let's cool it on the 35 and 15 stuff. He averaged 18 and 7. He's still young. We're all just projecting him to be a star. He's not one yet.
You don't want to trade him, we don't want to give up the assets you're looking for to trade for him. So no deal. That's fine. We don't need to make a panic trade. It's essentially 3 top 5 picks, plus another player, that you're asking for. That's quite a bit for anyone. I'd love to see if another player has ever been traded for similar value.
I'd love to see if another player with KP's upside and skill set was traded on his rookie contract. It simply does not happen. that's why you're seeing people throw around unprecedented trade packages.
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He's legit. 130,000 followers and Begley retweeted him
You'd take Giannis but only if MILW added?
I fully get that Crowder is nothing special and is what he is. I'm just saying he's good player, even if that doesn't do much good on a bad team. And Crowder is literally the 4th asset you'd be getting in the deal Jackson apparently wants, not he main asset, not to mention he really does have a highly desirable contract around the league. If he's the 4th asset, you've done well in the trade.
With Porzingis, while he does have the potential to be an 1 or 2 option on a championship team, the Knicks are so far from getting to that point, and it will probably not happen at any point with the current regime. So while I wouldn't trade Porzingis, you do have to evaluate whether the relationship is irreparably damaged. And while you may want Phil out, Dolan is a moron. So don't bet on it.
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He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
You'd take Giannis but only if MILW added?
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Talk about overvaluing. I like Brown but to me he's a bigger Jae Crowder. DOn't see any star in him.
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He did really well at times and they were pretty much weaning him in, he had no plays called for him, and he showed great poise and athleticism. He has an improving shot, including from the 3-point line, and can get to the basket extremely well. He plays several positions and is already a plus defender. And, he's improving in every area. He's a perfect match for Stevens and would be my deal-breaker for anyone who's not Anthony Davis.
Talk about overvaluing. I like Brown but to me he's a bigger Jae Crowder. DOn't see any star in him.
2nd pick this year
Deng
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What the hell are you even talking about. Are you kidding me?
With Porzingis, while he does have the potential to be an 1 or 2 option on a championship team, the Knicks are so far from getting to that point, and it will probably not happen at any point with the current regime. So while I wouldn't trade Porzingis, you do have to evaluate whether the relationship is irreparably damaged. And while you may want Phil out, Dolan is a moron. So don't bet on it.
Phil talks about trading KP if it is what's best for the team, but his ego driving trades is not best for the team, and his personal timeline to win a championship is not what's best for the team. Fact is that a guy like KP probably doesnt get into his "title window" best case for another 4 years. If that's not Phil's time frame, he needs to retire, because there is almost no path to getting a title in NY in the next 4 years. LeBron (wherever he is) and GSW will be murderous for at least 2 more seasons, conservatively. They may not win 2-3 more titles, but they're so good that the KNICKS have no chance of catching them in 2-3 years.
This is what I dont get about the modern NBA. A guy like Ainge gets it -- he sees that his team isnt really title competitive. Yet most teams are just plugging along looking to get marginally better. Lets get Dwight Howard! Lets trade for Aldridge! I guess if you need to sell tickets, so be it, it's a business. But otherwise any teams that is forced to go for it (e.g. LAC) should be thinking long term. If you have a Porzingis and you cant wait for him to develop, you're in the wrong business and are misreading the league.