NFT: NBA Draft Thread

fess up. You have not seen Frenchy play any games.

When I finally abandon the Knicks for good, I may jump on the Bucks bandwagon.

it's hard to judge the pick considering how little any of us have seen of him, especially relative to college prospects.

My concern aligns with Mook in that if this were a system pick rather than a true BPA, then it's a bad move because forcing into a system.

Then again, DennyinDenville hates the pick, and smart money is always on the opposite of what the clown thinks.

I expected a whole lot of stupid...I wasn't disappointed.

In comment 13508831 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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it's hard to judge the pick considering how little any of us have seen of him, especially relative to college prospects. My concern aligns with Mook in that if this were a system pick rather than a true BPA, then it's a bad move because forcing into a system. Then again, DennyinDenville hates the pick, and smart money is always on the opposite of what the clown thinks.

I love the pick you nimrod. Lmao. Wtf are you smoking. Jaja

NOBODY (inc the Knicks ) know what his ceiling is. He could be the best pick in this draft (or the biggest bust). They like his IQ and his maturity on court at 18. My biggest issue is who runs the point next season? There will be more to this off season for sure. Rubio would be perfect for many reasons.

In comment 13508820 Jim in Hoboken said:

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I am confident is saying that KP is a better shooter than Frenchy.

That's certainly true. It should be expected, given that KP is a natural shooter.

But they drafted a point guard this time.

"love" the pick?

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Nooooooooo DennyInDenville : 8:14 pm : link : reply Fuck

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Why frenchy?? Why ? DennyInDenville : 8:15 pm : link : reply Goodness. Monk was the guy or dsj

In comment 13508829 bceagle05 said:

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When I finally abandon the Knicks for good, I may jump on the Bucks bandwagon.

Hey there's no way this ISNT the year the wolves make the jump now. Right?

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In comment 13508779 nygiants16 said: Quote: what about old school comp, mark jackson? Jackson had a handle and quickness (when he was young). Does this guy?

Jackson was never quick. Quicker than me sure. Quicker than most NBA pgs even in the pg challenged era of 1989? No. He wasn't quick.

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The system won't matter. It rarely does. You either can or can't play with the big boys.

athletically gifted and dynamic with the ball. This is not drafting a foreign player with little to no tape who has unique all-league talent. This is drafting a foreign player with little to no tape whom you hope fit a role in your system.

The problem is, we have NOTHING!!

So the thinking is Smith and Monk will make multiple all-stars teams and have lengthy highlgiht reels but play on bad teams while our Frenchy contributes to our many championships....

I don't know why so many people are comfortable making that leap....

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Ha fair enough. Jackson was quick. He had great vision and moxy. Could also back down and use that big ass of his to put opposing pgs on notice.

In comment 13508853 Jim in Hoboken said:

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athletically gifted and dynamic with the ball. This is not drafting a foreign player with little to no tape who has unique all-league talent. This is drafting a foreign player with little to no tape whom you hope fit a role in your system. The problem is, we have NOTHING!! So the thinking is Smith and Monk will make multiple all-stars teams and have lengthy highlgiht reels but play on bad teams while our Frenchy contributes to our many championships.... I don't know why so many people are comfortable making that leap....

Man, all this stuff is a leap. D'Angelo Russell was supposed to make multiple all star teams too.

Improve on the defensive end, wolves could be fielding 3 top 15-20 players (KAT and butler could both be top 10) next season. Suddenly Rubio and dieng don't look awful as 4th/5th options

I can't get mad at this. Knicks needed a pg and took one that nearly everyone had ranked pretty high. And he's younger than any of them, played in a man's league and seems to be defensive minded with a J.

I'll save my anger for the 300 days of the year that the knicks do something really stupid. This ain't one of them.

Many of the same people saying this guy has no upside are the same ones that said KP was going to need 2-3 years to even approach what he did in 15-16. No one knows shit. He's 18.

In comment 13508860 djm said:

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I can't get mad at this. Knicks needed a pg and took one that nearly everyone had ranked pretty high. And he's younger than any of them, played in a man's league and seems to be defensive minded with a J. I'll save my anger for the 300 days of the year that the knicks do something really stupid. This ain't one of them. Many of the same people saying this guy has no upside are the same ones that said KP was going to need 2-3 years to even approach what he did in 15-16. No one knows shit. He's 18.

I get this. But every Knick fan has every right to vent with this franchise. They are irrelevant. Hopefully it starts to turn now.

Ending the day without having traded KP deserves fireworks and cake.

He's smart and unselfish - a great team player and a great defender and he hits that j when you need it most.

a defensive PG & plus shooter can absolutely be a posititive piece. This team hasn't had a solid PG in forever.

polish, better vision, look what he's done.

You just can't gamble on guards who aren't off the charts athletically if you are expecting greatness. Nash and Lowry are outliers.

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a defensive PG & plus shooter can absolutely be a posititive piece. This team hasn't had a solid PG in forever.

He has the length to defend and experience against older players, but I am not sure he has the feet to match up with NBA PG's

In comment 13508847 djm said:

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In comment 13508804 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 13508779 nygiants16 said: Quote: what about old school comp, mark jackson? Jackson had a handle and quickness (when he was young). Does this guy? Jackson was never quick. Quicker than me sure. Quicker than most NBA pgs even in the pg challenged era of 1989? No. He wasn't quick.

before he started putting on weight he was plenty quick. He wasn't KJ blazing past people for dunks, but he had enough wiggle to regularly get in the lane.

Gray Bar = All-Star
Red Bar = Starter
Black Bar = Backup

Percentage after name is the sum of these. Remaining percentage = complete bust.

in the NY paper. Lets hope with got a teenage stud like Kobe was decades ago.

tweets about Dallas having the "inside track" on Frank - whatever the fuck that means. Do we need to start recruiting our own draft pick now?

Reminds me of when the Knicks drafted KP. Nary a good word said about him and people went home angry. Some things never change in the world of Knick fans.

for a championship.

Seem like a team-guy.

Pro basketball since he was 15.
I am hopeful he will turn into a solid PG

with the pick but my standard for success for tonight was keeping KP.


Hopefully we're back in the lottery next year and this time hopefully in the top 3.

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In comment 13508860 djm said: Quote: I can't get mad at this. Knicks needed a pg and took one that nearly everyone had ranked pretty high. And he's younger than any of them, played in a man's league and seems to be defensive minded with a J. I'll save my anger for the 300 days of the year that the knicks do something really stupid. This ain't one of them. Many of the same people saying this guy has no upside are the same ones that said KP was going to need 2-3 years to even approach what he did in 15-16. No one knows shit. He's 18. I get this. But every Knick fan has every right to vent with this franchise. They are irrelevant. Hopefully it starts to turn now.

I don't question how terrible they are but moments like this when the knicks bring in young intriguing talent are to be treasured. He's an intriguing prospect. We will see how it goes.

Man I'm getting old.

how rare it's been for the Knicks to actually have a lottery pick.

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for a championship. Seem like a team-guy.

Hopefully Dolan has him on a jet. Little bastard is probably too busy at his concert though.

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how rare it's been for the Knicks to actually have a lottery pick.

This and two years ago were literally the two most enjoyable moments for me as a knicks since 1999. I did enjoy the 54 win season under Woodson but the excitement leading up to KP and tonight trump that. That's how bad this has gotten.

Knowing we have our picks next year and beyond makes me feel good but we have to hit them. Please let Frankie be a beast one day.

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cbrickley603If you ask me, @frank_ntilikina is the most talented, high IQ, hard working, humble prospect in the draft‼️‼️SKY IS THE LIMIT"

and his next quote suggests, he went straight to his gym, after he got off the plane this morning..

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cbrickley603@frank_ntilikina Straight off the plane ✈️ // One of my favorite and most talented point guards in the 2017 draft‼️ #7AMworkoutGRIND //📸 #TheAcademy

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Not shocked in the least. I'd use melo as a super sub 6th man let him play big minutes in that role and give the keys to KP. This is assuming we don't trade melo in the summer.

But here's the fucking question that hasn't been answered for 3 years - are the Knicks going to run the triangle or not? If so, OK, a PG with potential to fit could be a good pick.

But then, why the fuck did we hire Horny as a coach? To run some kind of quasi triangle? That wasn't really the triangle? Or is Jax going to run more triangle camps?

Oh by the way, I'm so fucking sick of the triangle. And Big Chief Triangle needs to go back to LA and beg his girl to take him back.

Frank and his work ethic/ playing style is everything this franchise needs. Pray this kid pans out because if his play style reaches its potential it's going to elevate the knicks big time. He might be a dud but if he's the goods we're gonna be happy he was the pick over a guy like monk. Monk could be a shinier player but the knicks don't need shiny. They need a junk yard dog floor leader. He needs to be a star but not a scoring star. That's just my opinion maybe I'm wrong.

In comment 13508896 djm said:

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Not shocked in the least. I'd use melo as a super sub 6th man let him play big minutes in that role and give the keys to KP. This is assuming we don't trade melo in the summer.

i dont think phil wants to trade lee..

In comment 13508899 djm said:

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Frank and his work ethic/ playing style is everything this franchise needs. Pray this kid pans out because if his play style reaches its potential it's going to elevate the knicks big time. He might be a dud but if he's the goods we're gonna be happy he was the pick over a guy like monk. Monk could be a shinier player but the knicks don't need shiny. They need a junk yard dog floor leader. He needs to be a star but not a scoring star. That's just my opinion maybe I'm wrong.

knicks havnt had a defensive stopper at point in a long time..

i wanted mitchell to pair with him as a young defensive back court but i will settle for josh hart...

In comment 13508898 mfsd said:

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But here's the fucking question that hasn't been answered for 3 years - are the Knicks going to run the triangle or not? If so, OK, a PG with potential to fit could be a good pick. But then, why the fuck did we hire Horny as a coach? To run some kind of quasi triangle? That wasn't really the triangle? Or is Jax going to run more triangle camps? Oh by the way, I'm so fucking sick of the triangle. And Big Chief Triangle needs to go back to LA and beg his girl to take him back.

Towards the end of the season, they doubled down on Triangle and said they were re-committed to it.

Ugh.

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but I have to trust the Knicks' European scouts. They've done a good job.

Melo cannot be on this team next season. We must turn the fucking page.