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antdog24 : 6/23/2017 9:13 am
from Dion and Mike Garafalo
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I would love to know what drugs Deion has been using all these years,  
Brown Recluse : 6/23/2017 9:16 am : link
and I'd also like the number for his dealer.
Way too early, but if opinions  
Big Blue '56 : 6/23/2017 9:23 am : link
ever really mattered, Garafolo would be the opinion to always take in, imv
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26.2 : 6/23/2017 9:28 am : link
The Eagles fans don't agree if you read the comments. They are a sleeper team and the division is wide open.

While PHI might be okay, their fans sure sound a lot like Redskin fans do every off season.
Dieon Sanders  
I Love Clams Casino : 6/23/2017 9:40 am : link
is definitely on something....geeez
Deion  
oldog : 6/23/2017 9:40 am : link
has some powerful broadcasting moves as well. But they are wrong about a key point, the Giants will not "challenge" the steers, they will crush them. Last year was just the warm up.
And Dak,  
oldog : 6/23/2017 9:52 am : link
will prove to be just as he appeared in the second Giants-steers game last year, a rookie, 4th rounder. And not as the NFL network would have it, #14 in the whole NFL, on their list which once again does not include Eli.
Dallas is overrated  
Marty866b : 6/23/2017 9:58 am : link
How come the "experts" don't talk about the players on defense that the Cowboys lost? They lost three starters in their secondary which wasn't that great to begin with. Witten is a year older and he looked very slow last year and Dez Bryant doesn't look like the same guy since his foot injury. They also lost a starter at wide receiver. I guess everyone is buying all in on Zeke,Prescott,and the o-line. I don't see how the Cowboys overall roster is nearly as good as the Giants. Time will tell.
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annexOPR : 6/23/2017 9:59 am : link
the giants are going to blow out Dallas week 1 - and I can't wait.
RE: Dallas is overrated  
giants#1 : 6/23/2017 10:00 am : link
In comment 13509208 Marty866b said:
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How come the "experts" don't talk about the players on defense that the Cowboys lost? They lost three starters in their secondary which wasn't that great to begin with. Witten is a year older and he looked very slow last year and Dez Bryant doesn't look like the same guy since his foot injury. They also lost a starter at wide receiver. I guess everyone is buying all in on Zeke,Prescott,and the o-line. I don't see how the Cowboys overall roster is nearly as good as the Giants. Time will tell.


Outside of Martin/Frederick/Smith/Elliot, I'm not sure there's a Dallas starter I even consider taking over his Giants counterpart. Maybe Lee if he wasn't so injury prone.

And Dan Bailey if you count STs.
RE: RE: Dallas is overrated  
annexOPR : 6/23/2017 10:05 am : link
In comment 13509212 giants#1 said:
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In comment 13509208 Marty866b said:


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How come the "experts" don't talk about the players on defense that the Cowboys lost? They lost three starters in their secondary which wasn't that great to begin with. Witten is a year older and he looked very slow last year and Dez Bryant doesn't look like the same guy since his foot injury. They also lost a starter at wide receiver. I guess everyone is buying all in on Zeke,Prescott,and the o-line. I don't see how the Cowboys overall roster is nearly as good as the Giants. Time will tell.



Outside of Martin/Frederick/Smith/Elliot, I'm not sure there's a Dallas starter I even consider taking over his Giants counterpart. Maybe Lee if he wasn't so injury prone.

And Dan Bailey if you count STs.


I tried doing the same thing ... maybe 5/6 starters from Dallas I'd take. Sean Lee would be the best giants linebacker since Lawrence Taylor and a no brainer. He is a phenomenal player and I'd kill to watch him run around behind the giants DL.

Fortunately he is not LT nor is he good enough to cover the glaring holes that defense will have this year
The NFL East games are always tough games  
George from PA : 6/23/2017 10:11 am : link
But that Match up favors Giants.

We got better...not sure the Cowboys got better early....losing their defensive backfield which played well last year and having no menacing pass rush.

The Eagle match up is tougher imo.
I like it better,  
Doomster : 6/23/2017 11:29 am : link
when the Giants are under the radar....

They seem to play better when they get no respect.....

But it is hard not to get excited about this team....

The only thing that can stop them, it seems, is injuries....

With this defense playing another year together, with Apple having a year under his belt, a healthy Vernon and JPP, if Thompson can stay on the field at FS, if Goodson can make that jump as a starter, and Tomlinson is the second coming of Cofield, the defense becomes scary.....

As for Eli, he finally has options......last year, on third down we were so one dimensional.....this year with Ellison, Engram, Perkins, Vereen, and Marshall to complement OBj and SS, if Eli is ready, we could be a two headed monster....

The media just loves Dallas...let them....Does Dak come down to earth this year? Will their defense fall apart? That's why they play the games.....
RE: I like it better,  
Big Blue '56 : 6/23/2017 11:31 am : link
In comment 13509346 Doomster said:
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when the Giants are under the radar....

They seem to play better when they get no respect.....

But it is hard not to get excited about this team....

The only thing that can stop them, it seems, is injuries....

With this defense playing another year together, with Apple having a year under his belt, a healthy Vernon and JPP, if Thompson can stay on the field at FS, if Goodson can make that jump as a starter, and Tomlinson is the second coming of Cofield, the defense becomes scary.....

As for Eli, he finally has options......last year, on third down we were so one dimensional.....this year with Ellison, Engram, Perkins, Vereen, and Marshall to complement OBj and SS, if Eli is ready, we could be a two headed monster....

The media just loves Dallas...let them....Does Dak come down to earth this year? Will their defense fall apart? That's why they play the games.....


You getting excited is akin to Jerry Jones relinquishing complete control of the Cowboys..😜
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TheMick7 : 6/23/2017 11:55 am : link
In comment 13509147 26.2 said:
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The Eagles fans don't agree if you read the comments. They are a sleeper team and the division is wide open.

While PHI might be okay, their fans sure sound a lot like Redskin fans do every off season.


With the Eagles/Cowboys defensive backfields the weakest part of their D, how do they cover our WR/TEs?
We are going to crush  
River : 6/23/2017 12:20 pm : link
Them on national tv that Sunday night. Try running zeke when your down 4 scores.
Don't be fooled. This game will be close and the last team with the  
SterlingArcher : 6/23/2017 12:43 pm : link
ball will win it. With Cole Beasley the Giant killer and Jason Witten who has been killing the Giants for the last 30, 40 years it will be close.
I think we might be  
RinR : 6/23/2017 12:45 pm : link
over estimating the drop off with Dez. I need to see more but he had a very good playoff game vs. GB.
If I had my pick of Cowboys to replace Giant starters...  
Big Blue Blogger : 6/23/2017 1:01 pm : link
...in addition to the positions already mentioned, I'd take Byron Jones over our assorted question-marks at free safety. Then I'd take a hard look at right tackle. La'el Collins hasn't done much so far, but his pedigree is far superior to Bobby Hart's, and he isn't yet in the retread category like the Giants' other option, D.J. Fluker.

Maliek Collins would be a candidate to pair with Harrison, though Dalvin Tomlinson might be the better player over time. Beasley vs. Shepard is debatable, but SS appears to have the much higher upside. I'd obviously take Dez Bryant over Brandon Marshall; but I guess the question would be Dez vs. Beckham, since they are the respective #1 WRs.
Philly worries me a lot more than Dallas.  
Klaatu : 6/23/2017 1:11 pm : link
Revamped their WR corps, still have a very good defense, and they've had our number for a while.
Giants have the defense  
River : 6/23/2017 1:14 pm : link
The Cowboys don't and Mac will be trying to make a point with his offense.
Foot on the gas pedal from begining to end.
RE: Philly worries me a lot more than Dallas.  
River : 6/23/2017 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13509553 Klaatu said:
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Revamped their WR corps, still have a very good defense, and they've had our number for a while.


Philly is pain but Marshall and Engram are players that will tear them apart.
RE: RE: Philly worries me a lot more than Dallas.  
Klaatu : 6/23/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13509564 River said:
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Revamped their WR corps, still have a very good defense, and they've had our number for a while.



Philly is pain but Marshall and Engram are players that will tear them apart.


From your keyboard to God's ear.
Mike G is the man  
mattlawson : 6/23/2017 1:28 pm : link
miss him
RE: Giants have the defense  
mattlawson : 6/23/2017 1:29 pm : link
In comment 13509559 River said:
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The Cowboys don't and Mac will be trying to make a point with his offense.
Foot on the gas pedal from begining to end.


100%. no flinching.
Regarding Dak Prescott...  
EricJ : 6/23/2017 1:29 pm : link
the guy did not have to do much last year. He did not show me that he could check out of a play and make the right adjustments at the line. He did not show me that he could carry a team on his back and win a game with his arm.

Did he make some nice throws last year? Of course... but we saw what happened when a team was able to prevent their run game from dominating. Dak was asked to do more and the Giants beat him both times in those games.
Only team that worries me is Green Bay  
River : 6/23/2017 1:50 pm : link
Rodgers is a wild card and McCarthy seems to know what Mac wants to do on offense. Please no more lambo trips next January. Giants need to bring the playoffs home this year.
RE: We are going to crush  
Brick72 : 6/23/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13509410 River said:
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Them on national tv that Sunday night. Try running zeke when your down 4 scores.
The only problem I have with that is we don't seem to take large leads even when we can. Too many games are closer than they should be. Too often we let teams come back or make it close. That's a Coughlin holdover mentality that hopefully McAdoo shakes off. Take the 2-3 TD lead as soon as you can and then unleash the D. That will demoralize some teams and make others take risky chances to stay in the game. The Giants should exert their will when they are in front, not play conservatively. Pedal to the metal.

When you think about it, how many teams seriously think they can come back against the Pats when they are down by 2-3 touchdowns? They will try but the mentality Belichick has installed is against them. McAdoo is young enough and has the tools this year to create that mentality.
RE: Don't be fooled. This game will be close and the last team with the  
Brick72 : 6/23/2017 6:53 pm : link
In comment 13509454 SterlingArcher said:
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ball will win it. With Cole Beasley the Giant killer and Jason Witten who has been killing the Giants for the last 30, 40 years it will be close.
As I recall, Landon Collins showed rather emphatically that Witten isn't likely to be the Giants killer he once was.
RE: Dallas is overrated  
Milton : 6/23/2017 7:02 pm : link
The Cowboys are a disaster waiting to happen. I almost feel sorry for their fans. Almost. I don't know what the betting line is on their season record, but I would bet the under with confidence. I could see them going 4-12. Maybe 6-10 if they don't lose anybody to injury.

p.s.--It's not just about lack of talent on defense, it's also about lack of leadership in the locker room and on the coaching staff (which is emasculated by Jerry Jones). This is a team that will not be able to weather a losing streak. When the shit hits the fan, they will go come apart at the seams rather than come together as a team.
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arcarsenal : 6/23/2017 7:04 pm : link
Some of you guys are way too dismissive of Dallas.

I hate them as much as anyone on this entire board, but I really don't think they're going to be nearly as bad as some of you guys do.
I wouldn't denigrate ANY team  
Big Blue '56 : 6/23/2017 10:32 pm : link
in our division..On paper I do believe we're as competive as any NFC team and could make a serious run, but no, I take NO ONE from our division for granted..
The Giants get very little love on ESPN.  
Klaatu : 6/24/2017 7:18 am : link
So it all balances out in the end.
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