If you could bring back one of these two gems as a rookie today - who would your pick be and why? They would be coming back to this Giants team as it currently stands... Jacobs & Bradshaw Highlights Tribute Video - ( New Window )
Just because I mocked him to the Giants in 2007 (although I had them taking him in the 4th round), but I'd have to pick Jacobs. Not only did he define "tone-setter," but he was devastating as Eli's last line of defense. A true Giant in every sense of the word.
and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
"It's not even close." I don't know you, but STFU with that shit. People who say that sound like children.
Sorry for the harshness. It's just an annoyance on BBI.
and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
"It's not even close." I don't know you, but STFU with that shit. People who say that sound like children.
Sorry for the harshness. It's just an annoyance on BBI.
I get that. Especially when it is actually pretty close, haha
and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
I agree with this. Jacobs was at his best running off tackle through a huge hole created by the best OL in the league. Good in pass pro. Zero elusiveness. Mediocre at best in short yardage. Bad receiver. He would struggle to impact at all behind this OL.
Bradshaw was simply a better player overall and in every facet of the game outside of pass pro, and Bradshaw wasn't far behind in that category.
and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
"It's not even close." I don't know you, but STFU with that shit. People who say that sound like children.
Sorry for the harshness. It's just an annoyance on BBI.
You showed me ... do internet tough guys feel better after this kind of bs?
"Once his specialty with the Giants as a 6-4, 256-pounder who scored 15 rushing touchdowns in 2008, Jacobs struggled mightily to pick up the tough yards between the tackles last season. With Ahmad Bradshaw becoming solid near paydirt, they could afford to let him go."
and I'm done. Happy Saturday ladies and gents.
The OP said which would you bring back as a rookie.
So your quote about whatever took place after 2008 is entirely pointless. At the peak of their respective careers, it is actually close. And you're trying way too hard to validate one over the other.
BRadshaw every time - he ran strong and was elusive
There is one thing about arguing a point, and then another about being a tool about it. You crossed over, congratulations.
And again, Bradshaw is one of my fave all time Giants but to me they are inseparable and will always come as a package deal. They each had strengths and weaknesses and together they gave us one of the most fun to watch run games the Giants have ever had.
and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
He had the ability to take it to the house....he could make guys miss.....he could make something out of nothing.....
Guys are so in love with Jacobs because he could knock guys over, and then maybe get a couple of yards.....big deal.....as big as he was, HE COULD NOT MOVE THE PILE! HE COULD NOT MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING!Those two 4th and one runs against the Eagles in the 2008 playoffs, showed that....'Nuff said....
He had the ability to take it to the house....he could make guys miss.....he could make something out of nothing.....
Guys are so in love with Jacobs because he could knock guys over, and then maybe get a couple of yards.....big deal.....as big as he was, HE COULD NOT MOVE THE PILE! HE COULD NOT MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING!Those two 4th and one runs against the Eagles in the 2008 playoffs, showed that....'Nuff said....
Amen. Nice to see someone else actually look beyond the "beast" tag associated with Jacobs. He certainly looked the part, didn't always play as big n' bad as some on here recall.
I just have no idea how anyone could say Jacobs was a better player. He did nothing better than Bradshaw. Nothing.
Do you know one year Bradshaw rushed for over 1,200 yards and caught over 300 yds of passes? Thats abiut 1,600 in total yards from scrimmage. Jacobs would come in to grind out games in the later stages when the D was worn out. He'd run them over.
I said I couldn't pick. Though will always be a package deal to me for the Giants. Elusiveness and pure vision and cutback goes to Bradshaw no question. And to say Jacobs only *looked* scary is a freaking joke.
I said I couldn't pick. Though will always be a package deal to me for the Giants. Elusiveness and pure vision and cutback goes to Bradshaw no question. And to say Jacobs only *looked* scary is a freaking joke.
All I'm saying is, for everyone drooling over Jacobs "beastly plows", Bradshaw did the exact same thing to defenders - with more ability in the pass game and didn't need a huge lane to gain yardage.
Hence the "Jacobs looked scarier", Bradshaw was just a tough / hard nosed / "fiery competitor" - with a better all around skill set. Bradshaw was the better player. Bradshaw would be a godsend in this offense.
"The exact same thing." Sure he had his moments. I've seen Orleans Dawkwa run through defenders too. But I never saw Bradshaw run through all pro/hall of fame players like Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher.
Bradshaw was a great player. No one will dispute that. But ask any defender who they'd rather not see coming toward them and they'll pick Jacobs over Bradshaw every time. And thats why some people prefer him in this offense alongside Perkins (who is already a lot like Bradshaw.)
There really is no wrong answer here though. They were both great.
"The exact same thing." Sure he had his moments. I've seen Orleans Dawkwa run through defenders too. But I never saw Bradshaw run through all pro/hall of fame players like Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher.
Bradshaw was a great player. No one will dispute that. But ask any defender who they'd rather not see coming toward them and they'll pick Jacobs over Bradshaw every time. And thats why some people prefer him in this offense alongside Perkins (who is already a lot like Bradshaw.)
There really is no wrong answer here though. They were both great.
That's exactly my thinking.
Bradshaw might be the best RB on the team right now, but he'd push Perkins into a backup role. Jacobs would be a perfect complement. We don't have a bruiser like that.
"The exact same thing." Sure he had his moments. I've seen Orleans Dawkwa run through defenders too. But I never saw Bradshaw run through all pro/hall of fame players like Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher.
Bradshaw was a great player. No one will dispute that. But ask any defender who they'd rather not see coming toward them and they'll pick Jacobs over Bradshaw every time. And thats why some people prefer him in this offense alongside Perkins (who is already a lot like Bradshaw.)
There really is no wrong answer here though. They were both great.
Jacobs didn't run anyone over unless he had a full head of steam. Which required push from the OL and a hole. He would be worthless behind this OL.
Anytime DL got penetration with Jacobs in the backfield he took a loss. He was a big dude who ran tall.
Than their skills. In a contest like football seeing a RB knock a defender so hard they wilted helps the team beyond the play. Jacobs scaring defenders helped the team when he was in the field due to that. Caught up w him as guys destroyed his legs. But early on he was a monster.
Bradshaw was also a rough and tough guy. But at 205 it's different. Not any less important but different. Players respect a guy who played as hurt as he did. Shame. His style may have hurt him but as a 7th rounder he was an insanely great pick.
Love them both. Just think Bradshaw was a better all around back. Him by a nose I guess.
both were special. Could create on their own and were fun to watch. I still remember chanting MVP at a game Tiki ran for over 200 yards ... (Chiefs? I think)
Jacobs/Ward benefited greatly from the OL performance. Ward was garbage after he left here and Jacobs would be absolutely useless in this current offense.
But he sure would look like a "beast" on those 1-2 yard runs.
In other news, I think we might have something special in Perkins. Loved what he showed last year, especially behind that pathetic OL. Really psyched to see him in year 2.
With this OL, Jacobs isn't going anywhere. In fact, the way our OL was run blocking, we'd probably see more tackles for a loss with Jacobs as a RB now. I'd rather have bradshaw who at least can make something out nothing, and at least get back to the LOS.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
"It's not even close." I don't know you, but STFU with that shit. People who say that sound like children.
Sorry for the harshness. It's just an annoyance on BBI.
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and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
"It's not even close." I don't know you, but STFU with that shit. People who say that sound like children.
Sorry for the harshness. It's just an annoyance on BBI.
I get that. Especially when it is actually pretty close, haha
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
I agree with this. Jacobs was at his best running off tackle through a huge hole created by the best OL in the league. Good in pass pro. Zero elusiveness. Mediocre at best in short yardage. Bad receiver. He would struggle to impact at all behind this OL.
Bradshaw was simply a better player overall and in every facet of the game outside of pass pro, and Bradshaw wasn't far behind in that category.
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and it's not even close. Ran just as hard as Jacobs with a much more complete skill set. If you have 20 minutes, watch the attachment. Bradshaw routinely created big plays on his own with no blocking and was much more of a "home run hitter" - although he lacked the elite speed that would've made him a hall of fame caliber player.
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
"It's not even close." I don't know you, but STFU with that shit. People who say that sound like children.
Sorry for the harshness. It's just an annoyance on BBI.
You showed me ... do internet tough guys feel better after this kind of bs?
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and I'm done. Happy Saturday ladies and gents.
And again, Bradshaw is one of my fave all time Giants but to me they are inseparable and will always come as a package deal. They each had strengths and weaknesses and together they gave us one of the most fun to watch run games the Giants have ever had.
When push comes to shove bradshaw
Jacobs looked scarier. That's it.
Bradshaw Career - ( New Window )
Nice highlight reel. AB was freaking awesome!
He had the ability to take it to the house....he could make guys miss.....he could make something out of nothing.....
Guys are so in love with Jacobs because he could knock guys over, and then maybe get a couple of yards.....big deal.....as big as he was, HE COULD NOT MOVE THE PILE! HE COULD NOT MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING!Those two 4th and one runs against the Eagles in the 2008 playoffs, showed that....'Nuff said....
He had the ability to take it to the house....he could make guys miss.....he could make something out of nothing.....
Guys are so in love with Jacobs because he could knock guys over, and then maybe get a couple of yards.....big deal.....as big as he was, HE COULD NOT MOVE THE PILE! HE COULD NOT MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF NOTHING!Those two 4th and one runs against the Eagles in the 2008 playoffs, showed that....'Nuff said....
Amen. Nice to see someone else actually look beyond the "beast" tag associated with Jacobs. He certainly looked the part, didn't always play as big n' bad as some on here recall.
I just have no idea how anyone could say Jacobs was a better player. He did nothing better than Bradshaw. Nothing.
Kinda grainy, but...
All I'm saying is, for everyone drooling over Jacobs "beastly plows", Bradshaw did the exact same thing to defenders - with more ability in the pass game and didn't need a huge lane to gain yardage.
Hence the "Jacobs looked scarier", Bradshaw was just a tough / hard nosed / "fiery competitor" - with a better all around skill set. Bradshaw was the better player. Bradshaw would be a godsend in this offense.
Bradshaw was a great player. No one will dispute that. But ask any defender who they'd rather not see coming toward them and they'll pick Jacobs over Bradshaw every time. And thats why some people prefer him in this offense alongside Perkins (who is already a lot like Bradshaw.)
There really is no wrong answer here though. They were both great.
Bradshaw was a great player. No one will dispute that. But ask any defender who they'd rather not see coming toward them and they'll pick Jacobs over Bradshaw every time. And thats why some people prefer him in this offense alongside Perkins (who is already a lot like Bradshaw.)
There really is no wrong answer here though. They were both great.
That's exactly my thinking.
Bradshaw might be the best RB on the team right now, but he'd push Perkins into a backup role. Jacobs would be a perfect complement. We don't have a bruiser like that.
Bradshaw was a great player. No one will dispute that. But ask any defender who they'd rather not see coming toward them and they'll pick Jacobs over Bradshaw every time. And thats why some people prefer him in this offense alongside Perkins (who is already a lot like Bradshaw.)
There really is no wrong answer here though. They were both great.
Jacobs didn't run anyone over unless he had a full head of steam. Which required push from the OL and a hole. He would be worthless behind this OL.
Anytime DL got penetration with Jacobs in the backfield he took a loss. He was a big dude who ran tall.
Bradshaw was also a rough and tough guy. But at 205 it's different. Not any less important but different. Players respect a guy who played as hurt as he did. Shame. His style may have hurt him but as a 7th rounder he was an insanely great pick.
Love them both. Just think Bradshaw was a better all around back. Him by a nose I guess.
Think of how spoiled we were. Tiki/BJac/Bradshaw/Ward. Bonkers RB quality for overtime a decade there.
Jacobs/Ward benefited greatly from the OL performance. Ward was garbage after he left here and Jacobs would be absolutely useless in this current offense.
But he sure would look like a "beast" on those 1-2 yard runs.
In other news, I think we might have something special in Perkins. Loved what he showed last year, especially behind that pathetic OL. Really psyched to see him in year 2.