Obviously they missed on many, it's the nature of the business, but I was impressed by how many they placed correctly (relative to where they were drafted).
Value Board--Offense
Value Board--Defense
I was mainly looking at it to see where they placed Wheeler, Rudolph, and some of our late round and undrafted players, but a smile creased my lips when I saw where they placed Charles Harris, who the Cowboys coveted, and Taco Charlton, who the Cowboys settled for. Of course none of that matters once they put the pads on and Charlton may turn out to be twice the player as Harris, but for now.....
Webb seems like a really good value in the context of that board and how the draft played out. Having Webb be the best QB on the board when we pick in the 2nd and then having him still be there for us in the third seems more than opportune.
Interested to see how Gallman and Tomlinson look in the preseason...
Tomlinson is important. And maybe disproportionately so.
We matched up well against Dallas because we were playing two 1 technique lineman and countered their ability to run and dominate the line of scrimmage.
That lineup might not have been as good agaisnt the standard NFL passing attack where a three technique tackle might have been more valuable.
Point is...everyone talks how this year's edition might be hostage to the O line...Maybe, but This team needs a good performance out of Tomilinson in order to beat the Cowboys.
And if the more highly rated Wormley or MacDowell go on to have great careers and Tomlinson is ordinary llegit criticism will be in order...along with the relentless din of the unfair criticisms.
Well worth the late 1st round selection ... his potential paired with Odell is almost not even fair.
Doesn't mean much now, but the consistency of these high marks gives us some reason for optimism about the UDFA class.
Meant EE, not WE. Spell check
He was projected to be early 2nd rounder.
just sayin'...
He was projected to be early 2nd rounder.
just sayin'...
He was. That was the initial reaction across the board (in the media). It also sounded like several teams had Engram higher on their boards than most everyone thought. There was a rumor a team wanted to trade up for him.
Trade up might've been. But, it's a possibility given the fact that at least one team had Engram ahead of Njoku, and the Browns traded up for him...
But I guess if you have a hard-on for a certain player...
Teams showed what these guys' values in the NFL's eyes (the eyes that matter) were a couple months ago and they'll show what type of players they actually will be over the next few years.
They do, but they still generally do so at a much lower rate than the supposed gurus and fans.
Talk about steals or misses should at least wait until the players actually show something in pads, in games.
The only thing wrong is for the fans to take it seriously...
A priority free agent like Chad Wheeler or Roger Lewis starts out with a small edge, and probably gets a few extra reps in OTAs; but once they put on the pads, those five-figure bonus payments don't matter much to the coaches.
He was projected to be early 2nd rounder.
just sayin'...
Which just goes to show how freaking clueless most of these pundits are. Unoriginal, repetitive, derivative.
Although that doesn't mean Engram may still have gone too early.
or too late...
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Engram was a reach when Giants picked him.
He was projected to be early 2nd rounder.
just sayin'...
Which just goes to show how freaking clueless most of these pundits are. Unoriginal, repetitive, derivative.
This. I always find it comical when fans sitting on their couches insist that a player was a "reach" because on CBS and ESPN mock drafts projected them to go lower. The term "reach" is thrown around here much too often and it's usually because the person wanted another player. Usually a player with a more recognizable name to them.
A reach is when you pick a guy in the 2nd who everyone thought would be a FA or go in the late rounds. A reach isn't when you pick a guy 1/3 of a round before the "experts" say.
It's probably fair to call Jay Bromley a reach: the Giants badly needed an interior pass rusher, and he seems to have been the last one they liked in his draft class. James Brewer was a similar situation (compounded by not owning any of the next 67 selections). Reaching in the third or fourth round isn't really a big deal. When Jerry Reese reaches for a Blaine Gabbert/Jake Locker/Christian Ponder, I'll join the torches-and-pitchforks mob.
Also, focusing too hard on a position or a particularly player can cause a reach. Not automatically of course, but those are clearly symptoms.
Imo, Engram was not a reach. I thought the 2017 draft only had about 10 (or so) guys that were truly first rounders. But there were several rounds of guys that were second round material. Imo...