Wow what a pathetic showing by Pineda again. No offense again. About to have their first losing home stand before they go on a tough road trip. It real be real interesting to see where this team is out July 4th. If they lose today which is possible it will 10 out of 12 losses. It's safe to say this team has come back down to earth.
Yep, it's mostly the pitching, though. They are complete dogshit. Crazily enough, this team misses CC, too. He got injured at the absolute worst time, after he had been pitching really well for about 1.5 months straight. That injury has killed us/the rotation.
I'd move Sanchez at least ahead of Castro in the order. Gardner has been rather crappy for the past month.
No moral victories!!!! I don't want to hear how they came back. A loss is still a loss and they have now lost 10 out of 12 and had a lousy home stand. And Now go on a tough road trip and playing on the road has been a problem for them this year
And let's not forget, pinada was horrific.
The bullpen was really good though.
That's an overreaction. Why blame him and not Sanchez for running through a stop sign an inning earlier? Yes, Austin didn't move the runner over with a perfect pitch for it, but if that's a crime, 99.9% of baseball players will be guilty at some point. Why not blame either of the guys who came up after Austin and didn't even make contact?
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Advance of Headley at first with no outs. Pathetic. He can't bunt either? And apparently he can't catch an easy line drive. What use is he? Might as well just kept Carter.
That's an overreaction. Why blame him and not Sanchez for running through a stop sign an inning earlier? Yes, Austin didn't move the runner over with a perfect pitch for it, but if that's a crime, 99.9% of baseball players will be guilty at some point. Why not blame either of the guys who came up after Austin and didn't even make contact?
I already called Sanchez out for terrible baserunning earlier in the thread. So your point is moot.
I already called Sanchez out for terrible baserunning earlier in the thread. So your point is moot.
It's not about acknowledging that a player made a mistake. You said, "The game was lost as soon as Austin didn't move the runner over", which is a bit much.
Instead of just saying that was a bad play by Austin, which it was, you went overboard. That play was no more devastating than Headley getting caught stealing down 3 runs, Sanchez ignoring a stop sign and making the final out of an inning at third (as the tying run), or the guys following Austin failing to make contact with the tying run in scoring position.
This game was lost for a lot of reasons, most specifically, Michael Pineda. Calling out that one specific play is unfair.
From your fingertips to Cashman's ears (eyes?).
The good news is that the Yankees have lots of budding talent on the farm. The bad news is that it's short on what they need and long on what they already have. So the answer to the Yankees pitching woes will not come directly from the farm, but it could come indirectly if the Yankees take an aggressive, but not reckless approach to exchanging future potential for established production. After all, the goal is to have the best talent in the Majors, not the best talent in the Minors.
In a previous thread in which I used Gerrit Cole as a hypothetical trade target, somebody commented, "Go big or go home," and I agree with that sentiment wholeheartedly. Cole may not be available in trade at any price, but he fits the profile of what I'm talking about. What the Yankees need is a true Ace. One who is entering his prime years, not at the end of them. If they can land one without including Gleyber or Chance in the deal, it will be worth whatever else they have to give up. But it can't be a poser, it has to be a true stopper, or they will just be spinning their wheels with more of the same (a guy who looks like an Ace for two or three starts and then looks like a JAG for two or three starts).
Cashman needs to do his due diligence, settle in on a target who may be just south of untouchable, and then be aggressive (but not reckless) about prying him away from the team that would hate to see him go. There are two general truths in life which apply here: money doesn't grow on trees and you get what you pay for.
Cashman needs to take his inspiration from Louie De Palma - ( New Window )
...the Yanks starting pitching.
I kept pinching myself about our front line starters. How long is the prosperity gonna last?
Well, we now know. Right up to the start of that disastrous west coast trip.
Need to open the bank for some real starting pitching.
While the Yanks MIGHT make a trade for a SP who can help them years into the future, it will NOT be about competing this year.
But Milton can't let go.
While the Yanks MIGHT make a trade for a SP who can help them years into the future, it will NOT be about competing this year.
That's because with each game it becomes more and more apparent that the weakness at the top of their rotation is not going to go away by itself. And the reason my focus has been on Gerrit Cole has nothing to do with our recent marriage and more to do with the fact that his addition will help them for years into the future and not just this year.
p.s.--And last I checked the Yankees are still in first place despite this miserable losing streak, so why not think about what can be done to increase the odds on winning it all now instead of counting on later?
...the Yanks starting pitching.
I kept pinching myself about our front line starters. How long is the prosperity gonna last?
Well, we now know. Right up to the start of that disastrous west coast trip.
Need to open the bank for some real starting pitching.
There he is. Mr. Ellipses. With the Bullshit as soon as it's a losing slide. Same thing in football season. It's like clockwork.
You never post unless the team fails. Fuck off.
Sure he's 27 but I'm good.
Like really good. Don't need him or want him.
Sure he's 27 but I'm good.
Like really good. Don't need him or want him.
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That puts us more in the sellers category than buyers.
Always a pleasure to see reactionary, knee-jerk vomit spew forth.
What makes anyone think that Headley will be a great 1b? He may be adeqaute, terrible, who knows?
They will be okay if/when the pitching straightens out. It's up to JM, Seve and Tanaka (fingers crossed) to carry the load until CC comes back and they deem Adams or Sheffield ready. Or make a deal for a reliable starter. Meantime, some patience with these injuries that are popping up is in order.
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That puts us more in the sellers category than buyers.
Always a pleasure to see reactionary, knee-jerk vomit spew forth.
More like watching the last two weeks of a team that is not ready for the next step to winning a championship. This year was about the rebuild and we as fans got excited with the hot start but this team is not ready and shouldn't stop the rebuild. Play the kids. Sell off the vets get more pieces for when you have a better team. Bring up the kids.
They can't really be sellers with the contracts they have hanging over them unless you want to move Gardy.
Saying they should be sellers is simply a reactionary comment - and a pretty asinine one, too.
Dead on. Had remarkable rotation health for the first 1/3 of the season, it didn't last. Had a number of hitters hitting well beyond the back of the baseball card, it didn't last. That said, they're plenty capable of potent offense and the bullpen will stabilize.
All have earned a chance in the show.
I would send down Refsnyder and bring up Anndujar. Defense couldn't get worse than it is.
There is huge jam coming up on the 40 man this offseason.
Jesus Christ, why tear apart a team that is contending?
This is fucking ponderous.
All have earned a chance in the show.
I would send down Refsnyder and bring up Anndujar. Defense couldn't get worse than it is.
There is huge jam coming up on the 40 man this offseason.
Give me whatever you're drinking. I want to get loaded too.
Are you out of your mind? Castro? Holliday? Gardner MIGHT go yet simply because he has a tradeable contract. Castro continues to improve and is only 27 and Holliday has been a true pro and mentor, just what they needed with these young hitters
Too many holes
* Starting pitching can't count on Tanaka or Pineda
Will CC be the same when back?
* Bullpen
* Injuries
* Defense
* Firstbase
The offense is basically Judge and Sanchez.
Hicks,Gardner,Castro,Headley,Holliday have all slowed
Sanchez plays 5 times a week and we have no one to replace his power when he sits.
Contending now but where will they be in a month? The strong start is fading fast. The whole point to selling is to accelerate the process of winning and winning it all. Hey I would love for this team to win it all this year but there are too many holes. And Judge has been carrying this team all year long if he slumps or comes back down to earth then what?
The Yanks have enough young players that they can play for today while developing players for tomorrow.
They already have a good balance, so becoming a "seller" seems to be grasping at some happy horseshit because you don't know how to handle a losing streak.
Freaking out over Sanchez getting a rest is another example. The guy is a fucking catcher.
You forgot no turn.
Anyway the adults are talking now so go away. Or add something to the thread.
Sellers or buyers in the hot topic now.
Looks like Elsbury is back soon with Hicks headed to the DL.
Too bad Fowler or Frazier won't get the chance.
That seems to be what is failing at the moment. Up until this losing stretch, I think it is fair to say they were pitching a bit over their heads. CC going down put a strain on an already thin rotation. Tanaka pitching the way he can will be a big help, but there are serious questions about the rotation, which were there at the beginning of the season as well.
Get 3 good starts in a row from Montgomery, Severino and Tanaka and everything looks rosy again.
Lets bat Judge 1st since he has the highest BA and OPS. Jeter hit first and he is going to the Hall of Fame. See?
As long as we are discussing just cutting right to the chase, Ive been saying for years that Jesus Montero is the answer. Ive had over 1000 posts on it. Saying for years based on his minor league season a few years back he will be a 40/120/325/400 guy and you guys should ignore his defense or over weight issues or other stuff we hear. Bring him up and trade Sanchez. Sanchez cant play everyday and now cant even hit 2nd in the lineup.
What? We traded Montero and he was a bust? Well then. Nevermind.
Then lets just cut to the chase and bring up all our minor league pitchers. What better place to master one more plus pitch or a repeatable motion?
Lets be bold and put the major guys in the minors unless they get better and bring up the minor leaguers to get better. Or sell them all. They lost yesterday didn't they? Lets act now before the next game starts
Come on. Lets have adult conversations about the Yankees. ( sorry Greg and FatMan. You have to leave)