Regardless, the idea of having players vote and having this show designed for this is a good idea. The execution of the idea is terrible and makes for a stupid list not worth paying attention to. It's so beyond stupid on so many levels that I don't even think it merit's a conversation.
I actually think Julio @ 100% is the best WR in the league.
I think Beckham is just as good as Brown and can do everything he does just as well. Jones has a physicality/speed combo that is just deadly. He bullies smaller DB's and most of the bigger ones can't keep up with him.
Problem is that he seems to be banged up more often than not. But when he's on his game and is 100% or close, he's literally impossible to defend.
I actually think Julio @ 100% is the best WR in the league.
I think Beckham is just as good as Brown and can do everything he does just as well. Jones has a physicality/speed combo that is just deadly. He bullies smaller DB's and most of the bigger ones can't keep up with him.
Problem is that he seems to be banged up more often than not. But when he's on his game and is 100% or close, he's literally impossible to defend.
I used to think this but he just doesn't score as much as he should. Beckham and Brown score from everywhere, every way, and at a much higher rate, all taking on doubles and sometimes triple coverage. Add in his injuries and I can't justify Jone over the other 2.
I don't think it's a huge disparity, but Jones age injuries and lack of big time scoring seasons put him at 3 for me. If he wasn't always banged up his size/speed would make him #1 but he's been in the league too long for "potential" to be a given.
Fez gets bonus points for being a Cowboy. People love them some Cowboys, particularly on BBI. Even when Dallas was going 8-8 every year, allwe ever heard is how talented Dallas is.
I actually think Julio @ 100% is the best WR in the league.
I think Beckham is just as good as Brown and can do everything he does just as well. Jones has a physicality/speed combo that is just deadly. He bullies smaller DB's and most of the bigger ones can't keep up with him.
Problem is that he seems to be banged up more often than not. But when he's on his game and is 100% or close, he's literally impossible to defend.
I used to think this but he just doesn't score as much as he should. Beckham and Brown score from everywhere, every way, and at a much higher rate, all taking on doubles and sometimes triple coverage. Add in his injuries and I can't justify Jone over the other 2.
I don't think it's a huge disparity, but Jones age injuries and lack of big time scoring seasons put him at 3 for me. If he wasn't always banged up his size/speed would make him #1 but he's been in the league too long for "potential" to be a given.
Jones is less of a threat to take a quick slant to the house the way Beckham or Brown can but I think the ATL offense also dictates his TD rate a bit. I'm not sure how often he's targeted in the RZ compared to other WR's but it seems like his number is called less than you'd think in goal-to-go's... they often opt to run the ball or throw to a TE or slot guy from what I've seen.
Could just be anecdotal.
But if I had my pick of the litter and every guy was 100% healthy, I'd probably take Jones. Just my opinion, though. I wouldn't argue with anyone who chose Brown or Beckham.
there are far too many variables to speak in superlatives.
The biggest knock I have on Brown is it took him so long to break out. It really wasn't until his 4th season he became special and that's probably why he was or related to the fact he was a 6th round pick.
Beckham and Jones both went top part of the 1st so had higher expectations and pedigree and were on the field and a focal point of their offenses much sooner (and probably deservedly so, who knows).
When you watch Antonio Brown what amazes me is even when the Steelers don't have Bell or really any other legit WR options, so literally just him as the offense, he still gets open and catches passes. His route running, separation, and hands, and YAC ability are ridiculous.
Beckham too, Beckham YAC is even better and Beckham does all those things well too.
Jones obviously has the physical mismatch and is probably second only to Calvin Johnson in my recent memory of a guy you can literally just throw a ball up and consider it good odds for him to get it.
Any of Beckham, Brown and Jones in any order I wouldn't get too bent out of shape.
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
Dez Bryant had a major foot injury that has deprived him of burst and quicks. But if that's a reason for not giving OBJ a huge extension, then that's not one distinct to WRs. It should caution against giving a big deal to anyone. Period.
So I go #9.
They love the QBs, and Mattie will be lowest at 7;their new love is Mack, plus they love 2 WRS over OBJ, and they will slide the RBs in at 3-8.
So I think OBJ and Miller bring up 3 of the last 3 spots.
That said, given my forecasting ability, you should bet totally some other selection.
RE: RE: Dez Bryant was 51st in receiving yards in 2016,
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
Dez Bryant had a major foot injury that has deprived him of burst and quicks. But if that's a reason for not giving OBJ a huge extension, then that's not one distinct to WRs. It should caution against giving a big deal to anyone. Period.
I completely agree.
RE: RE: RE: Dez Bryant was 51st in receiving yards in 2016,
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
Dez Bryant had a major foot injury that has deprived him of burst and quicks. But if that's a reason for not giving OBJ a huge extension, then that's not one distinct to WRs. It should caution against giving a big deal to anyone. Period.
I completely agree.
Damn, you are awful. We get it. You have have a team full of league minimum scrubs that you recycle on an annual basis and have $185 million in unused salary cap that you could spend on....no one! You'd go 0-16 every year for a decade just so you could keep recycling players if they dare step up and produce, because who wants to pay those guys? Keep accumulating picks that will most likely flame out, which would be perfect for you, cause then you can re sign them for cheap!
What a great capologist. If you suck, you get to stay! But if you outperform league minimum worthiness, see ya!
if there were more good coaches in the league along with ownership that never stands in the way, and a patient timetable. Terps has exactly 1 team that is a blueprint for that success and even then they have "overpaid" players because sooner or later, you just have to.
What I don't understand is when I ask who we should overspend on instead, like say for what the FA olineman just got this past offseason, isn't that a horrible decision too?
Personally I'd rather "risk" signing a 24 year old Beckham to $17m per than give $11-$12m for a soon to be 36 year old left tackle. If you take Beckham off this team and add Whitworth you can still make the argument that we don't make the playoffs while last year with a horrible offense we made it with Beckham.
So yeah, don't pay him, because that makes sense...
Rodgers
Brown
Beckham
Mack
Bell
Jones
Ryan
Miller
Elliott
IMO
We need to trade OBJ before it's too late anyway.
Given area junk's proficiency when it comes to analyzing the sport, I'd say OBJ will be nowhere near the Top 10.
I think Beckham is just as good as Brown and can do everything he does just as well. Jones has a physicality/speed combo that is just deadly. He bullies smaller DB's and most of the bigger ones can't keep up with him.
Problem is that he seems to be banged up more often than not. But when he's on his game and is 100% or close, he's literally impossible to defend.
Given area junk's proficiency when it comes to analyzing the sport, I'd say OBJ will be nowhere near the Top 10.
Wrong again. Big surprise. Never said it. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
He's a top 5 WR. Brown, Jones, OBJ, Dez & Green.
I don't think he's even close to top 5 right now.
I think Beckham is just as good as Brown and can do everything he does just as well. Jones has a physicality/speed combo that is just deadly. He bullies smaller DB's and most of the bigger ones can't keep up with him.
Problem is that he seems to be banged up more often than not. But when he's on his game and is 100% or close, he's literally impossible to defend.
I used to think this but he just doesn't score as much as he should. Beckham and Brown score from everywhere, every way, and at a much higher rate, all taking on doubles and sometimes triple coverage. Add in his injuries and I can't justify Jone over the other 2.
I don't think it's a huge disparity, but Jones age injuries and lack of big time scoring seasons put him at 3 for me. If he wasn't always banged up his size/speed would make him #1 but he's been in the league too long for "potential" to be a given.
I don't think he's even close to top 5 right now.
Fez gets bonus points for being a Cowboy. People love them some Cowboys, particularly on BBI. Even when Dallas was going 8-8 every year, allwe ever heard is how talented Dallas is.
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I actually think Julio @ 100% is the best WR in the league.
I think Beckham is just as good as Brown and can do everything he does just as well. Jones has a physicality/speed combo that is just deadly. He bullies smaller DB's and most of the bigger ones can't keep up with him.
Problem is that he seems to be banged up more often than not. But when he's on his game and is 100% or close, he's literally impossible to defend.
I used to think this but he just doesn't score as much as he should. Beckham and Brown score from everywhere, every way, and at a much higher rate, all taking on doubles and sometimes triple coverage. Add in his injuries and I can't justify Jone over the other 2.
I don't think it's a huge disparity, but Jones age injuries and lack of big time scoring seasons put him at 3 for me. If he wasn't always banged up his size/speed would make him #1 but he's been in the league too long for "potential" to be a given.
Jones is less of a threat to take a quick slant to the house the way Beckham or Brown can but I think the ATL offense also dictates his TD rate a bit. I'm not sure how often he's targeted in the RZ compared to other WR's but it seems like his number is called less than you'd think in goal-to-go's... they often opt to run the ball or throw to a TE or slot guy from what I've seen.
Could just be anecdotal.
But if I had my pick of the litter and every guy was 100% healthy, I'd probably take Jones. Just my opinion, though. I wouldn't argue with anyone who chose Brown or Beckham.
The biggest knock I have on Brown is it took him so long to break out. It really wasn't until his 4th season he became special and that's probably why he was or related to the fact he was a 6th round pick.
Beckham and Jones both went top part of the 1st so had higher expectations and pedigree and were on the field and a focal point of their offenses much sooner (and probably deservedly so, who knows).
When you watch Antonio Brown what amazes me is even when the Steelers don't have Bell or really any other legit WR options, so literally just him as the offense, he still gets open and catches passes. His route running, separation, and hands, and YAC ability are ridiculous.
Beckham too, Beckham YAC is even better and Beckham does all those things well too.
Jones obviously has the physical mismatch and is probably second only to Calvin Johnson in my recent memory of a guy you can literally just throw a ball up and consider it good odds for him to get it.
Any of Beckham, Brown and Jones in any order I wouldn't get too bent out of shape.
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Beckham is barely in the Top 10-15 receivers league-wide.
Given area junk's proficiency when it comes to analyzing the sport, I'd say OBJ will be nowhere near the Top 10.
Wrong again. Big surprise. Never said it. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
He's a top 5 WR. Brown, Jones, OBJ, Dez & Green.
That's right - it was "ghost718". But you two are so close in your complete ineptitude it's easy to get you confused.
Anthony Davis trade still imminent? Or nah?
Oh, sorry. It's become quite the chore keeping up with the mental defectives like junk, shelovesnycsports/river/gmanjoe, Dr. ghost718 M.D. and others.
Marshall
Shepard
Harris
King
C'mon man - this is a Giants FAN forum.
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
Dez Bryant had a major foot injury that has deprived him of burst and quicks. But if that's a reason for not giving OBJ a huge extension, then that's not one distinct to WRs. It should caution against giving a big deal to anyone. Period.
They love the QBs, and Mattie will be lowest at 7;their new love is Mack, plus they love 2 WRS over OBJ, and they will slide the RBs in at 3-8.
So I think OBJ and Miller bring up 3 of the last 3 spots.
That said, given my forecasting ability, you should bet totally some other selection.
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just behind Steve Smith.
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
Dez Bryant had a major foot injury that has deprived him of burst and quicks. But if that's a reason for not giving OBJ a huge extension, then that's not one distinct to WRs. It should caution against giving a big deal to anyone. Period.
I completely agree.
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just behind Steve Smith.
If there's a cautionary tale against paying a wide receiver a billion dollars, it's him.
Dez Bryant had a major foot injury that has deprived him of burst and quicks. But if that's a reason for not giving OBJ a huge extension, then that's not one distinct to WRs. It should caution against giving a big deal to anyone. Period.
I completely agree.
Damn, you are awful. We get it. You have have a team full of league minimum scrubs that you recycle on an annual basis and have $185 million in unused salary cap that you could spend on....no one! You'd go 0-16 every year for a decade just so you could keep recycling players if they dare step up and produce, because who wants to pay those guys? Keep accumulating picks that will most likely flame out, which would be perfect for you, cause then you can re sign them for cheap!
What a great capologist. If you suck, you get to stay! But if you outperform league minimum worthiness, see ya!
What I don't understand is when I ask who we should overspend on instead, like say for what the FA olineman just got this past offseason, isn't that a horrible decision too?
Personally I'd rather "risk" signing a 24 year old Beckham to $17m per than give $11-$12m for a soon to be 36 year old left tackle. If you take Beckham off this team and add Whitworth you can still make the argument that we don't make the playoffs while last year with a horrible offense we made it with Beckham.
So yeah, don't pay him, because that makes sense...