NFT: Hernangomez named to NBA All-Rookie 1st Team

There truly is no hope.

It's trades, free agency and coaching that have been the nightmares. The real test begins July 1.

In comment 13511792 bceagle05 said:

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It's trades, free agency and coaching that have been the nightmares. The real test begins July 1.

Agreed. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. We have talented youth, we have assets moving forward, we only have 1 devastating contract. Things aren't as bad as they seemed.

In comment 13511805 Keith said:

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Things aren't as bad as they seemed.

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You win.

6 rookies on all rookie teams since 2010:

2010: Landry Fields (4th in ROY. 1st team)
2011: Iman Shumpert (5th in ROY. 1st team)
2012: No One
2013: Tim Hardaway Jr (5th in ROY. 1st team)
2014: Langston Galloway (Didn't Place. 2nd team)
2015: Porzingis (2nd in ROY. 1st team)
2016: WHG (?? in ROY. 1st team)

NONE of those players have made it through a second contract w the team though. Only KP and WHG still on the roster.

In comment 13511819 kash94 said:

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6 rookies on all rookie teams since 2010: 2010: Landry Fields (4th in ROY. 1st team) 2011: Iman Shumpert (5th in ROY. 1st team) 2012: No One 2013: Tim Hardaway Jr (5th in ROY. 1st team) 2014: Langston Galloway (Didn't Place. 2nd team) 2015: Porzingis (2nd in ROY. 1st team) 2016: WHG (?? in ROY. 1st team) NONE of those players have made it through a second contract w the team though. Only KP and WHG still on the roster.

And the thing is except for KP, none of those players were high draft picks so it's not like the Knicks were tanking, getting good picks, and thus were having players win these awards.

Fields and WHG were second rounders. Shumpert and THJ were mid-late first rounders. Galloway undrafted.

That was a fun little trip for a few months, huh?

know that they beat the Warriors but that's potentially a very, very interesting team with Lowry.

Lowry
Wiggins
Butler
KAT
Dieng

If they ever want to improve they need to handle the July free agent/trade frenzy as well as they've handled the draft in recent years. I haven't seen much of evidence of that happening, but we'll see what the next few weeks bring. Maybe the Knicks will be blackballed by agents, which will solve the problem for us.

summer league teams might look, but we (my son and I) were looking at the Knicks' summer roster ... thought maybe that group has a chance to win the summer. Which would be something?

wrong thread sorry

:-)

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In comment 13511819 kash94 said:

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6 rookies on all rookie teams since 2010: 2010: Landry Fields (4th in ROY. 1st team) 2011: Iman Shumpert (5th in ROY. 1st team) 2012: No One 2013: Tim Hardaway Jr (5th in ROY. 1st team) 2014: Langston Galloway (Didn't Place. 2nd team) 2015: Porzingis (2nd in ROY. 1st team) 2016: WHG (?? in ROY. 1st team) NONE of those players have made it through a second contract w the team though. Only KP and WHG still on the roster.

Knicks havent resigned a draft pick since Charlie fucking Ward.

From Pillie.

European players the Knicks have in a few years they could have a 40 win season.

Maybe Dolan can move the franchise to Europe and NY could get an expansion team.

In comment 13511899 averagejoe said:

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European players the Knicks have in a few years they could have a 40 win season. Maybe Dolan can move the franchise to Europe and NY could get an expansion team.

Is this some kind of meme where you have a thing against European players for no apparent reason?

In comment 13511914 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 13511899 averagejoe said: Quote: European players the Knicks have in a few years they could have a 40 win season. Maybe Dolan can move the franchise to Europe and NY could get an expansion team. Is this some kind of meme where you have a thing against European players for no apparent reason?

I have a reason. European players are soft in both hockey and basketball. Great skills, no heart, and easily intimidated. No thanks.

and 16 votes didnt think Willy was a top 10 rookie. Labissiere got a first team vote.

Wasn't that theory debunked years ago? Manu Ginobili is all heart, and that's just the first guy that comes to mind. Porzingis basically left his family to go play professionally in Spain when he was the ripe old age of 14! If anything it's the American players who are coddled.

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In comment 13511932 bceagle05 said:

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Wasn't that theory debunked years ago? Manu Ginobili is all heart, and that's just the first guy that comes to mind. Porzingis basically left his family to go play professionally in Spain when he was the ripe old age of 14! If anything it's the American players who are coddled.

Argentina, forgot. But you get the point. Dirk and a slew of others.

I feel so vindicated.

Have a good young nucleus with the addition of Frank.

In comment 13511826 Greg from LI said:

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That was a fun little trip for a few months, huh?

Not so fun for Toronto. 20 mill 3 year deal. I think it would it have been better use of that money to rent helicopter and throw it out the widow mid air.

In comment 13511864 Sgrcts said:

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Knicks havent resigned a draft pick since Charlie fucking Ward.

A lotta those guys weren't worth re-signing.

But yeah, that's not good.

In comment 13511923 averagejoe said:

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In comment 13511914 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 13511899 averagejoe said: Quote: European players the Knicks have in a few years they could have a 40 win season. Maybe Dolan can move the franchise to Europe and NY could get an expansion team. Is this some kind of meme where you have a thing against European players for no apparent reason? I have a reason. European players are soft in both hockey and basketball. Great skills, no heart, and easily intimidated. No thanks.

So it is meme. Thanks for confirming.

In comment 13511899 averagejoe said:

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European players the Knicks have in a few years they could have a 40 win season. Maybe Dolan can move the franchise to Europe and NY could get an expansion team.

Half of BBI is convinced Rubio can vault the Knicks to greatness

In comment 13511792 bceagle05 said:

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It's trades, free agency and coaching that have been the nightmares. The real test begins July 1.

So true. I hope they do absolutely nothing this summer. I'd even settle for bringing melo back if it guaranteed me that the knicks wouldn't sign any long term big budget FAs. Usually I feel differently and say bulls the team up however possible but I'd rather they just go full tank and get one more premium pick. After that they can go all in on a big ticket vet FA in 2018.

Should be build the team up.