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| Source: Jordan Raanan - ESPN.com Jordan Raanan, from ESPN.com, reports New York Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. is in a good place per former Giants great Michael Strahan. "I've seen this kid work," Strahan said of Beckham. "I've talked to him this offseason. His head is where it needs to be. "Everybody gives him a hard time about missing a little OTAs. Hell, I didn't go to those things, so I'm the wrong person to be sympathetic for people who are giving him a hard time." [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ FOOTBALLGUYS VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] Beckham missed the voluntary work this offseason but he stayed in great shape and is incredibly focused. He recently told NJ Advance Media, "Mentally, physically, spiritually, everything, I just don't think I've ever been as ready as I am now." |
"All his life has he looked away… to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was.
A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind."
Strahan used to skip them
Troy Polamalu skipped them
Ray Lewis skipped them
Ed Reed skipped them
Michael Bennett skipped them
Stephone Gillmore, Kawaan Short, Reshad Jones, Eric Berry, etc...
It's 7-7, 11-11 and positional drills. If OBJ wants to workout with Chris Carter and maybe pick up on some new things, i'm fine with that.
Strahan used to skip them
Troy Polamalu skipped them
Ray Lewis skipped them
Ed Reed skipped them
Michael Bennett skipped them
Stephone Gillmore, Kawaan Short, Reshad Jones, Eric Berry, etc...
It's 7-7, 11-11 and positional drills. If OBJ wants to workout with Chris Carter and maybe pick up on some new things, i'm fine with that.
That's why they should do away with them. They can workout etc on their own if they feel the need
I'm very glad OBJ is on the Giants. Very, very glad. But he has a fragile ego that needs constant stroking and so the Giants (and others) have decided to stroke it. I think it's the right strategy for Giants management/leadership (and even better when Strahan and others in the media join in). But it doesn't mean we have to stroke it, too.
I'm very glad OBJ is on the Giants. Very, very glad. But he has a fragile ego that needs constant stroking and so the Giants (and others) have decided to stroke it. I think it's the right strategy for Giants management/leadership (and even better when Strahan and others in the media join in). But it doesn't mean we have to stroke it, too.
He said stroke. He he.
to paraphrase, all football players are equal, but some are more equal than others..
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A lot of great players never went to them (or missed a good portion of them)
Strahan used to skip them
Troy Polamalu skipped them
Ray Lewis skipped them
Ed Reed skipped them
Michael Bennett skipped them
Stephone Gillmore, Kawaan Short, Reshad Jones, Eric Berry, etc...
It's 7-7, 11-11 and positional drills. If OBJ wants to workout with Chris Carter and maybe pick up on some new things, i'm fine with that.
That's why they should do away with them. They can workout etc on their own if they feel the need
The names on that list don't need them.. many other players do.. including all QBs..
Don't we pretty much do the exact opposite of that here on a weekly basis? He misses OTA's and BBI goes apeshit and assassinates his character like he's a murderer or an off-the-field liability.
A number of people talk about how he is a workout beast and puts as much time in or more than anyone else and it is a collective, "Pshaw. He missed OTA's".
For a guy who is the best WR I've ever seen in blue, our definitions of stroking seem completely different.
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But it doesn't mean we have to stroke it, too
Don't we pretty much do the exact opposite of that here on a weekly basis? He misses OTA's and BBI goes apeshit and assassinates his character like he's a murderer or an off-the-field liability.
I'm very glad OBJ is on the Giants. Very, very glad. But he has a fragile ego that needs constant stroking and so the Giants (and others) have decided to stroke it. I think it's the right strategy for Giants management/leadership (and even better when Strahan and others in the media join in). But it doesn't mean we have to stroke it, too.
No disrespect to you, Milton, but in my opinion this is just a bullshit narrative that's been repeated so often by so many media people who don't follow the Giants (except when he's playing Josh Norman's team), that it's become an assumed fact.
When has OBJ ever demanded "stroking" from teammates, the Giants organization or the media?
Did he wig out a time or two on the field, in response to over-the-top taunting and after-the-whistle dirty play from opponents who can't cover him so they resort to trying to throw him off his game? Yes. And he didn't handle those (two?) incidents very well, and it did throw him off his game. He acknowledged that, and he's clearly made an effort to change how he handles those situations, but you'd never know it from listening to the pontifications of some former players who don't know him but need something to talk about on the NFL network.
It's the people who don't spend fifteen minutes a season on the Giants who want to make Beckham out to be the second coming of Terrell Owens. And personally, I find it disappointing that so many who post on this board seem to buy into that narrative, because it is not based in much evidence. By all accounts, this is a guy who comes from a strong family, is humble and articulate in interviews, and constantly gives a ton of credit to his teammates whenever he's asked about his own performance. He's not the kind of guy who's going to call a press conference in his driveway so he can disrespect his organization and throw his QB under the bus. The only "stroking" OBJ seems to need is the kind that comes from winning football games. He doesn't lose well. Which kind of reminds me of most Hall Of Famers, actually.
The stroking that happens seems to be of the variety that the guy is the greatest WR we've ever had. That's most likely true.
Meanwhile, the flipside narrative is one of a petulant, egotistical maniac who puts himself above the team - something that hasn't shown to be true.
Sensitive Kid - ( New Window )
As I recall, the vast majority of BBIers didn't have a problem with OBJ skipping the OTAs. Sure, there were a couple of posters who did, but it was a very small (though very vocal) minority.
Strahan used to skip them
Troy Polamalu skipped them
Ray Lewis skipped them
Ed Reed skipped them
Michael Bennett skipped them
Stephone Gillmore, Kawaan Short, Reshad Jones, Eric Berry, etc...
It's 7-7, 11-11 and positional drills. If OBJ wants to workout with Chris Carter and maybe pick up on some new things, i'm fine with that.
Agreed ... The "fall out" from some about the OTAs on this site was pathetic
Rabble rabble "No I in TEAM!" Please. It's playing catch in gym shorts. He missed nothing.
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The Giants had 87 of the 90 on their roster attend OTAs. That's a good thing. If it could've been 90 of 90 that would've been even better. But it wasn't, so that's life, time to move on.
I'm very glad OBJ is on the Giants. Very, very glad. But he has a fragile ego that needs constant stroking and so the Giants (and others) have decided to stroke it. I think it's the right strategy for Giants management/leadership (and even better when Strahan and others in the media join in). But it doesn't mean we have to stroke it, too.
No disrespect to you, Milton, but in my opinion this is just a bullshit narrative that's been repeated so often by so many media people who don't follow the Giants (except when he's playing Josh Norman's team), that it's become an assumed fact.
When has OBJ ever demanded "stroking" from teammates, the Giants organization or the media?
Did he wig out a time or two on the field, in response to over-the-top taunting and after-the-whistle dirty play from opponents who can't cover him so they resort to trying to throw him off his game? Yes. And he didn't handle those (two?) incidents very well, and it did throw him off his game. He acknowledged that, and he's clearly made an effort to change how he handles those situations, but you'd never know it from listening to the pontifications of some former players who don't know him but need something to talk about on the NFL network.
It's the people who don't spend fifteen minutes a season on the Giants who want to make Beckham out to be the second coming of Terrell Owens. And personally, I find it disappointing that so many who post on this board seem to buy into that narrative, because it is not based in much evidence. By all accounts, this is a guy who comes from a strong family, is humble and articulate in interviews, and constantly gives a ton of credit to his teammates whenever he's asked about his own performance. He's not the kind of guy who's going to call a press conference in his driveway so he can disrespect his organization and throw his QB under the bus. The only "stroking" OBJ seems to need is the kind that comes from winning football games. He doesn't lose well. Which kind of reminds me of most Hall Of Famers, actually.
Bingo.