-Bulls and Jazz the early favorites for Milos Teodosic
-Kmart mocked Phil Jackson on TMZ. Says Frenchy will be a bust, on Noah "Picking talent? That ain't [Jackson's] strong suit, as you can tell," Martin said. "The man gave Joakim Noah $70 million -- boy can't hit his ass with both hands. ... I'm going to continue to go after Joakim Noah. That boy sucks."
Trade Melo?
Re-sign Rose?
Deal for Rubio?
Sign PJ Tucker?
Re-sign Baker and Holiday?
I'm scared to death of what this franchise has in store for us this summer.
Kenyon averaged a whopping 3 and a half points more per game than Noah with a career PPG of 12.8 to 9.0. Just saying
I can't fathom watching games next season if those two are dribbling the air out of the ball while KP, Willy, Frank and others are holding their dicks waiting for a pass.
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SG, COURTNEY LEE
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honestly believe Rose is coming back and Melo is coming back.
I can't fathom watching games next season if those two are dribbling the air out of the ball while KP, Willy, Frank and others are holding their dicks waiting for a pass.
This!
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SG, COURTNEY LEE
KNICKS GET
F/C, JORDAN HILL; TIMBERWOLVES 2018 SECOND ROUND PICK
Not that I am over-rating Lee, but Ewww.
Yep. 100% agree.
Those picks will be precious in 4 years.
Agree. Two futures 1's for Melo would do it for me. Maybe even put them 2 or 3 years away from now to add to chance that they aren't good. I actually think Phil should be commenting publicly about not cutting Melo. Maybe you even wait for the trade deadline this year after as some suggested you play Melo off the bench. Shop him at the deadline, get leverage waiving his NTC. (A team like the Wolves would be a great fit team wise for him to come off the bench)
No reason to cut him for nothing. He's not the most valuable asset but he's worth something. If he wants to be a malcontent for a season that's also fine. Let's lose some games!
I think the entire NBA learned a lesson on that Nets deal. I dont see the Cavs or Clips giving up multiple #1s that are completely unprotected. It's not a hard argument to make in a trade call: "Hey, if I give these unprotected and they turn out to be #1 overalls, I'll never get another GM job in this league."
Fully expect this too. Listening to Isola this morning, he said the Knicks are
fully in the mix for Rose. Only the Knicks and Phil Jackson would watch last years team and bring back the same squad. I have a bad feeling Rose is going to get big money from the Knicks too. Phil oddly seems to think very highly of him.
I really can't see any scenario where the Knicks can make a Melo trade that benefits them. Just bite the bullet and release him. Send a loud and clear message that the Knicks are entering a new phase. No one is trading future unprotected picks for him.
If we bring back Rose, that's yet another year of stunting KP's development. At least with Melo, there's a shot at recovering his value and trading him to a contender for assets, even if they have to be a top-8 protected pick or whatever.
Trade Melo?
Re-sign Rose?
Deal for Rubio?
Sign PJ Tucker?
Re-sign Baker and Holiday?
I'm scared to death of what this franchise has in store for us this summer.
Here's my prediction: Phil signs one of the free agent point guards (George Hill or Jeff Teague) to a deal worth something like 2/38 with the second year being a player option.
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take future #1's. I don't need Love, I don't even care much about the player return. Take Rivers who cares. I'm telling you in 4 or 5 years that trade will look like the Celts-Nets deal and we will be sitting pretty with Lottery picks right when we are hopefully getting a little better.
I think the entire NBA learned a lesson on that Nets deal. I dont see the Cavs or Clips giving up multiple #1s that are completely unprotected. It's not a hard argument to make in a trade call: "Hey, if I give these unprotected and they turn out to be #1 overalls, I'll never get another GM job in this league."
they should have learned their lesson after the Eddy Curry trade.
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Trade Melo?
Re-sign Rose?
Deal for Rubio?
Sign PJ Tucker?
Re-sign Baker and Holiday?
I'm scared to death of what this franchise has in store for us this summer.
Here's my prediction: Phil signs one of the free agent point guards (George Hill or Jeff Teague) to a deal worth something like 2/38 with the second year being a player option.
I'd be stunned. I don't see any way either player has such a cold market at that rate I suspect Utah would just keep Hill, why would he leave them? He's been open about his wants he said he realizes he might have to pick between a winner and the best possible contract, he's already 31 coming off a nice season, I don't think a 2nd year player option does much for him, he's getting a much better deal at 32? S
Love/hate to say it but Isola is 100% correct. Even if you want to say that KP was wrong to skip the meeting, all Phil and his 70 year old man cronies are doing is distracting this kid from his work. They're like gossip queens.
"Utah was limited to offering Hill -- who is making $8 million in the final season of his contract -- the rest of its cap space this season and an extension of three years with annual raises of 7.5 percent. Therefore, the best offer Utah could make Hill was for $88.3 million to be committed to the Jazz through the 2019-20 season, which computes to a three-year, $74.7 million extension plus the $13.6 million of available cap space this season.
Hill would be eligible to sign a five-year deal with the Jazz or a four-year deal with another team as a free agent.
Hill has previously indicated a strong interest in remaining in Utah.
"I really like it here," Hill told ESPN in November. "My family likes it here. I've got some friends here. The city's been great for me so far, and it's a nice place to raise a family, so hopefully I get an opportunity to re-sign here if they would love me to be here.""
His trade value is low because of his NTC, his age, his trade kicker and big salary. None of those things are changing. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see why a team would be more inclined to trade for him during the season. The window to trade him has passed.
Looking back, you really have to hand it to his agent Leon Rose. Getting the 5 years with a full no trade clause and a big trade kicker? They really didn't concede anything. Phil should have never given out the NTC/ kicker and forced Melo to take less elsewhere.
I think the entire NBA learned a lesson on that Nets deal. I dont see the Cavs or Clips giving up multiple #1s that are completely unprotected. It's not a hard argument to make in a trade call: "Hey, if I give these unprotected and they turn out to be #1 overalls, I'll never get another GM job in this league."
they should have learned their lesson after the Eddy Curry trade.
The BOS-NJ trade was the Curry trade on steroids. Plus I think the fact that the Curry trade didnt really do much for the Bulls dampens the impact on people's memories. Had they kept Aldridge it might be remembered more. Shoot, there is the Baron and a #1 (Kyrie) trade that is worse.
I think this BK trade is different. 3 straight #1s in effect, from the worst team in the NBA. It has effectively broken one franchise for a half decade. And the spoils are going to a 2nd tier contender. It's just so visible in everyone's mind right now.
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would be a Melo trade, IMO.
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Agree. Two futures 1's for Melo would do it for me.
"Utah was limited to offering Hill -- who is making $8 million in the final season of his contract -- the rest of its cap space this season and an extension of three years with annual raises of 7.5 percent. Therefore, the best offer Utah could make Hill was for $88.3 million to be committed to the Jazz through the 2019-20 season, which computes to a three-year, $74.7 million extension plus the $13.6 million of available cap space this season.
Hill would be eligible to sign a five-year deal with the Jazz or a four-year deal with another team as a free agent.
Hill has previously indicated a strong interest in remaining in Utah.
"I really like it here," Hill told ESPN in November. "My family likes it here. I've got some friends here. The city's been great for me so far, and it's a nice place to raise a family, so hopefully I get an opportunity to re-sign here if they would love me to be here.""
and if Heyward leaves, are the Jazz going to commit big money to an over 30 PG? If they choose to move on, who else is paying him? With Teague, it's a similar situation. if PG leaves Indy, the Pacers are going to tank which means Teague is moving elsewhere - only there's limited destinations for him.
Once Phil re-signs Rose, I'm going full-on Bucks fan. I will become what I have hated. That's how much I hate the idea of Derrick Rose coming back.
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might make sense for a younger player but Hill is going to be 32 next off-season and even implied he would take a lesser offer from the Jazz if he doesn't like the other option on the table so it would be kind of weird to take 1+ a PO from the Knicks
"Utah was limited to offering Hill -- who is making $8 million in the final season of his contract -- the rest of its cap space this season and an extension of three years with annual raises of 7.5 percent. Therefore, the best offer Utah could make Hill was for $88.3 million to be committed to the Jazz through the 2019-20 season, which computes to a three-year, $74.7 million extension plus the $13.6 million of available cap space this season.
Hill would be eligible to sign a five-year deal with the Jazz or a four-year deal with another team as a free agent.
Hill has previously indicated a strong interest in remaining in Utah.
"I really like it here," Hill told ESPN in November. "My family likes it here. I've got some friends here. The city's been great for me so far, and it's a nice place to raise a family, so hopefully I get an opportunity to re-sign here if they would love me to be here.""
and if Heyward leaves, are the Jazz going to commit big money to an over 30 PG? If they choose to move on, who else is paying him? With Teague, it's a similar situation. if PG leaves Indy, the Pacers are going to tank which means Teague is moving elsewhere - only there's limited destinations for him.
Teams that strike out on Paul/Lowry will likely be in on Hill. Spurs (why wouldn't they make him a similar offer to the one you described if his market is that bad?), Nuggets, Wolves, Raptors, Celtics, Pelicans all look like potential spots for Hill to me.
Can't shoot AT ALL. That being said, I'd take him for 1 year over Rose for 2-3.
But league sources say that the Knicks have thus far resisted the idea of a Melo buyout that would clear the way for him to join the Cavs
How long will the Knicks maintain their unwillingness to buy Melo out when he can block any trade? One of the summer's hottest questions ...
But league sources say that the Knicks have thus far resisted the idea of a Melo buyout that would clear the way for him to join the Cavs
How long will the Knicks maintain their unwillingness to buy Melo out when he can block any trade? One of the summer's hottest questions ...
Under no circumstances should Melo be bought out. Bench him and pay him his money instead of letting him walk. He doe not get to use his NTC to completely eviscerate the franchise's ability to build something here. He has to choose between getting paid and playing where he wants to play. He cannot get both without the Knicks getting something in return. NTC's are not and should not be suicide pacts.
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might make sense for a younger player but Hill is going to be 32 next off-season and even implied he would take a lesser offer from the Jazz if he doesn't like the other option on the table so it would be kind of weird to take 1+ a PO from the Knicks
"Utah was limited to offering Hill -- who is making $8 million in the final season of his contract -- the rest of its cap space this season and an extension of three years with annual raises of 7.5 percent. Therefore, the best offer Utah could make Hill was for $88.3 million to be committed to the Jazz through the 2019-20 season, which computes to a three-year, $74.7 million extension plus the $13.6 million of available cap space this season.
Hill would be eligible to sign a five-year deal with the Jazz or a four-year deal with another team as a free agent.
Hill has previously indicated a strong interest in remaining in Utah.
"I really like it here," Hill told ESPN in November. "My family likes it here. I've got some friends here. The city's been great for me so far, and it's a nice place to raise a family, so hopefully I get an opportunity to re-sign here if they would love me to be here.""
and if Heyward leaves, are the Jazz going to commit big money to an over 30 PG? If they choose to move on, who else is paying him? With Teague, it's a similar situation. if PG leaves Indy, the Pacers are going to tank which means Teague is moving elsewhere - only there's limited destinations for him.
Teams that strike out on Paul/Lowry will likely be in on Hill. Spurs (why wouldn't they make him a similar offer to the one you described if his market is that bad?), Nuggets, Wolves, Raptors, Celtics, Pelicans all look like potential spots for Hill to me.
All of those teams would be potential spots if the there wasn't a salary cap. Out of that list, the Spurs would make the most sense but, as you said, they are going to be looking elsewhere first.
Phil should announce that they'd rather keep Melo and have him as a bench scorer rather than buy him out.
Lebron, Irving, George, Melo as the core
How long will the Knicks maintain their unwillingness to buy Melo out when he can block any trade? One of the summer's hottest questions ...
Tell him he's only getting bought out after the trade deadline in 2019. Not a second before. If he really wants to leave, let him opt out next summer. I'd love to trade him, but if he's not waiving the NTC, it's worth it to keep him around in case he changes his mind. What's the downside? Another fucked up season? We're likely getting that anyway due to the morons in charge.
Trade him or buy him out. I have no interest whatsoever in having him on the team to start next season. There is zero positive that can come from it
Lebron, Irving, George, Melo as the core
I'm sure they are resigning Korver too. So add Korver, JR, Thompson, Shumpert, maybe D Wade if he gets bought out. That team definitely has a better shot against the Warriors than last years team.
I like the idea in theory of holding strong against Melo, but in reality I think it gets ugly and can only hurt the Knicks more. Melo holds all the cards. I'm sure he will happily play for the Knicks, and bump them up 5-10 more costly wins.
Trade him or buy him out. I have no interest whatsoever in having him on the team to start next season. There is zero positive that can come from it
that's extremely short-sighted. If you can't trade him this summer, a trade may materialize during the season. If he's not playing the right way, you bench him.
Literally, the very fact that last week we were over run with rumors of trading KP and this week we're discussing if we're going to resign a guy who literally just disappeared for a game and is a horrible basketball fit is all you need to know about the Knicks right now.
Bench him, keep him away from the team, whatever. Buying him out does nothing.
Spend money only on one year contracts and no multi year contracts
Rebuild and tank should be the only words this franchise uses
Try desperately to trade Melo and not buy out
Stretch provision Noah
See if KOQ and Lee have any trade value for youth and or draft picks
The goal is to get a top 3 lottery pick in 2018
They've done it many times in the past. Francis and Jalen Rose to name a few(I think). This team has a long history of signing guys to terrible deals and then telling them to just stay home because they can't unload them.
Bench him, keep him away from the team, whatever. Buying him out does nothing.
Bingo. Fuck a buyout.
a buyout does not necessarily mean you kick the cap obligation down the road into future seasons.
Per ESPN, Carmelo Anthony's estranged wife, La La Anthony, said on "The Wendy Williams Show" on Tuesday that the New York Knicks star's top priority going forward is to remain close to their 10-year-old son, Kiyan.
Knicks president Phil Jackson has made it clear that his preference is to trade Anthony this offseason. Jackson said recently that Anthony indicated to the club he'd prefer to stay in New York.
"The most important thing with that is just to stay close to Kiyan," La La Anthony said during the interview, when asked about reports of Anthony being traded. "That's my priority, that's his priority. So wherever he ends up, of course we want him to be happy."
Sources told ESPN's Marc Stein that Anthony's camp has tried to engage the Knicks in recent buyout discussions as it establishes the player's options.
Sources say Knicks officials have thus far rejected the idea of coming to a settlement and waiving Anthony with two years and nearly $55 million left on his contract.
TAG CARMELO ANTHONY NEW YORK KNICKS LA LA
I said 5-10 wins and it's true. The Knicks won 2 games last year without Melo and didn't win a game without him the previous season. In the last 30 games of last year he was a major factor in 6 or 7 wins. Those wins are losses and the Knicks are picking top 4. Big difference.
I really don't think it's a stretch to saying having Melo moves the Knicks from 25 wins to around 32-35 wins.
This situation sucks for the Knicks but it's a result of the mistakes they made. They need to do what's best for them and move on. Take the cap hit this year and next- don't stretch it.
Also- just heard Bobby Marks on WFan. He said there was "zero trade market" for Melo.
Could he be productive in another organization like the Spurs? Of course, but the Knicks don't have that organizational structure.
If he plays like an asshole he probably still wins a few games himself by having a hot shooting night and stunts the development of our young guys.
If I actually believed the Knicks would make him DNP coaches decision if he blocks all trades, I would be all for it, but if he comes back you know the Knicks will be running him out there for 35 minutes per night
Mills, Mack, Holiday x2, Waiters, Gallo, Bogdanovic, Pau, Rose, Muhammad
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I would almost any other PG in the league over Rose. Just from a fans entertainment perspective, I really didn't like watching him play for the Knicks. And just reading the tea leaves from KPs comments, you can tell he didn't like playing with him.
I think because of his enormous cap hold (30 mill) we will know pretty quickly if he's resigning or not. They have zero cap space with his hold in place.
Right now, all of the young players are getting a warped view of professionalism because they play for such a joke of a franchise.
2. Knicks desperation to trade Melo is over blown. Every shitty rebuilding team looks to to trade its over-30 talent.
3. What is hurting our ability to trade Melo moreso than anything Phil has done it his unwillingness to be traded, and his salary, and the fact that so many competitors are totally cashed out of futures they can give after years of contending.
I think that kind of crystallized the mixed feelings about Melo from GMs around the league.
I think that kind of crystallized the mixed feelings about Melo from GMs around the league.
I think that's wild speculation.
Melo hasnt been traded because Melo wont allow himself to be traded. Nothing more to see.
Melo should want to go to the Sixers. He could look like the hero playing with all this young talent and a PG(Fultz) which he and everyone claims he's never had
Philly is an hour away and he can still be close to his son
Trade
Melo for Justin Anderson and a couple of future draft picks
Sixers have plenty of cap space to make room
Cavs and Celtics are near locks to be to be the top 2 seeds barring major injuries but Lowry looks like he's out of Toronto so I think they will take a major, major step back. Bucks and Wizards would be the "next 2" and I think the Sixers with a few tweaks (Iggy or Redick etc) can absolutely be up there with those teams. They are LOADED with talent (yes with injury concerns) but Covington would be regarded as a young stud if we had him and he's not even mentioned when talking about the Sixers.
Fultz, Simmons, Embiid, Saric, Covington, Holmes, Okafor, Anderson, Bolden, McConnell,Luwawu-Cabarrot. Throw in a guy like Redick or Iggy... I'm very jealous.
He's going to get big money. Will the Warriors match any deal? Does Iggy take less to stay with GSW or join Philly/ Minny and get one last monster contract? Could really hurt the warriors.
need a vwt leader, iggy would be a good story going back to philly to help lead the young guys
need a vwt leader, iggy would be a good story going back to philly to help lead the young guys
Sure and maybe the return isn't "awesome" on Okafor but they should get at least a solid rotation piece.
Amazing to me that the owner said an Embiid extension is a big priority this offseason. Either they're nuts or Embiid has given them a reasonable demand.
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need a vwt leader, iggy would be a good story going back to philly to help lead the young guys
Sure and maybe the return isn't "awesome" on Okafor but they should get at least a solid rotation piece.
they tried moving him last year and no one wanted him
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brown refused to play 2 bigs together, said he didnt like the fit...saric is probably their 4...
need a vwt leader, iggy would be a good story going back to philly to help lead the young guys
Sure and maybe the return isn't "awesome" on Okafor but they should get at least a solid rotation piece.
they tried moving him last year and no one wanted him
We have no idea what the asking price was. Just because a player isn't traded does not mean "nobody" was interested. It just means the teams price wasn't met.
This is relevant in Philadelphia because, at some point, Joel Embiid should be in the same situation....
Anyone who saw Embiid play his 31 games this past season realizes he is something completely different. If he stays healthy (he has played just 31 games in three seasons), he could combine the strength of Shaq with the athleticism of Wilt, the shooting touch of Dirk and the defensive menace of Russell. If healthy, in two years The Process will have Karl-Anthony Townes and Anthony Davis chasing him as the league's best big man. In a decade, he will be legend.
WHAAAAAAAAAA?
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For the fourth year in a row James will suffer from Greatness Fatigue. The King is so good that the proletariat has grown weary. He is not the first victim, and he will not be the last. Michael Jordan suffered. So did Wilt.
This is relevant in Philadelphia because, at some point, Joel Embiid should be in the same situation....
Anyone who saw Embiid play his 31 games this past season realizes he is something completely different. If he stays healthy (he has played just 31 games in three seasons), he could combine the strength of Shaq with the athleticism of Wilt, the shooting touch of Dirk and the defensive menace of Russell. If healthy, in two years The Process will have Karl-Anthony Townes and Anthony Davis chasing him as the league's best big man. In a decade, he will be legend.
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I understand the potential with Embiid is great but man has the Sixer faithful gotten ahead of themselves. He hasn't played a healthy season of basketball going back to Kansas.
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3. What is hurting our ability to trade Melo moreso than anything Phil has done it his unwillingness to be traded, and his salary, and the fact that so many competitors are totally cashed out of futures they can give after years of contending.
Difficult fully to buy that take: Knicks are not at this pass if the gating issue of the NTC doesn't confer total leverage in Melo's hands. Without that it's a different look for player and team, a different calculus for Melo.
Ok right. I meant nothing Phil has done recently is what is hurting Melo's value. The NTC is obviously something Phil did.
"A league source said one team to monitor is the Spurs, who are trying to unload an unhappy LaMarcus Aldridge and finding the trade market thin. However, it's unclear if Anthony would waive his no-trade clause to go to San Antonio, or anywhere, for that matter."
Could the spurs bring in CP3 and Melo?
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to see his GPs and news linked me to this 6/27 Philly Inquirer. It talks about how LeBron not getting the MVP was due to greatness fatigue:
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For the fourth year in a row James will suffer from Greatness Fatigue. The King is so good that the proletariat has grown weary. He is not the first victim, and he will not be the last. Michael Jordan suffered. So did Wilt.
This is relevant in Philadelphia because, at some point, Joel Embiid should be in the same situation....
Anyone who saw Embiid play his 31 games this past season realizes he is something completely different. If he stays healthy (he has played just 31 games in three seasons), he could combine the strength of Shaq with the athleticism of Wilt, the shooting touch of Dirk and the defensive menace of Russell. If healthy, in two years The Process will have Karl-Anthony Townes and Anthony Davis chasing him as the league's best big man. In a decade, he will be legend.
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I understand the potential with Embiid is great but man has the Sixer faithful gotten ahead of themselves. He hasn't played a healthy season of basketball going back to Kansas.
It's really incredible. The assumption should be that he'll never be healthy at this point a la Greg Oden, not that he'll stay healthy...
"A league source said one team to monitor is the Spurs, who are trying to unload an unhappy LaMarcus Aldridge and finding the trade market thin. However, it's unclear if Anthony would waive his no-trade clause to go to San Antonio, or anywhere, for that matter."
Could the spurs bring in CP3 and Melo?
spurs are in such an interesting spot, they have a young superstar who is a top 5 to 7 player in the nba and then you have nothing but age around and arguably best coach in the nba...
how do they build aroind him? do they just keep trying to rradjust the pieces or do they somehow tank 1 year to add another young superstar...
as long as golden state stays in tact i think just moving around the deck chairs wont get it done but the spurs are so good at what they do maybe they get lucky with a late roind pick
they have 3 young guys they hope to build around, cap spacr and all of their picks...
it just seems like melo vs phil is making wverything look bad when in reality besodes melo knicks have a young team..
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"Jackson dead set against a buyout."
"A league source said one team to monitor is the Spurs, who are trying to unload an unhappy LaMarcus Aldridge and finding the trade market thin. However, it's unclear if Anthony would waive his no-trade clause to go to San Antonio, or anywhere, for that matter."
Could the spurs bring in CP3 and Melo?
spurs are in such an interesting spot, they have a young superstar who is a top 5 to 7 player in the nba and then you have nothing but age around and arguably best coach in the nba...
how do they build aroind him? do they just keep trying to rradjust the pieces or do they somehow tank 1 year to add another young superstar...
as long as golden state stays in tact i think just moving around the deck chairs wont get it done but the spurs are so good at what they do maybe they get lucky with a late roind pick
*top 2 player in the NBA. Kawhi is too good, you can't tank with Kawhi. Pop wouldn't do it anyway. SA would actually be an incredible landing spot for Melo, and if they somehow got CP3 as well, that's definitely a team that can compete with GS. Pop got David Lee into a valuable sort of 2 way contributor. He would do WONDERS with Melo, and if both CP3 and Melo bought into the ball movement system with Kawhi ISO, they would be incredible.
It's a great idea except you're not getting that return for melo.
they have 3 young guys they hope to build around, cap spacr and all of their picks...
it just seems like melo vs phil is making wverything look bad when in reality besodes melo knicks have a young team..
KP is a draw, NY is a draw. Willy probably turned a head here or there but no one is coming to play with him. Frank is a non-entity in terms of desirability (of the draftees, I'd guess Ball and Fox are the draws, but rookies generally arent draws).
A lot depends on how KP is viewed. I think everyone knows his potential but he'll be more of a draw in a few seasons.
But league sources say that the Knicks have thus far resisted the idea of a Melo buyout that would clear the way for him to join the Cavs
How long will the Knicks maintain their unwillingness to buy Melo out when he can block any trade? One of the summer's hottest questions ...
Don't buy him out. No!
Michael Porter or Luka Doncic. Both are projected to have superstar potential.
The strategy this offseason should be to trade O'Quinn, Melo, L. Thomas, Lee for young, up and coming guys and draft picks.
Do Not sign Rose and really focus on 2019 and beyond.
The worst thing they could do is attempt to put together a squad to compete for the 8th playoff slot.
2. Knicks desperation to trade Melo is over blown. Every shitty rebuilding team looks to to trade its over-30 talent.
3. What is hurting our ability to trade Melo moreso than anything Phil has done it his unwillingness to be traded, and his salary, and the fact that so many competitors are totally cashed out of futures they can give after years of contending.
Deej on the money as usual. Couldn't agree more.
Michael Porter or Luka Doncic. Both are projected to have superstar potential.
The strategy this offseason should be to trade O'Quinn, Melo, L. Thomas, Lee for young, up and coming guys and draft picks.
Couldn't agree more Phil as I stated 2 hrs ago in my post
Do Not sign Rose and really focus on 2019 and beyond.
The worst thing they could do is attempt to put together a squad to compete for the 8th playoff slot.
Nets sell a couple more tickets, doubling nightly attendance and the Celtics draft pick falls a few more spots...
Doesn't even have to be Linsanity. It can be anything...
If Melo doesn't get traded, buy him out. Unless he's gonna play 6th man or sit the year which is just not gonna happen, let's be real..it would get sooooo ugly if it came to that.
If they could retain Rose for a VERY short, VERY cheap deal, that might not be the worst thing in the world. With Melo off of the roster (which I think is 100% guaranteed one way or another), this team is going to lose games and will get a high pick with or without Rose. Rose could still be moved if he's playing decently.
If they could retain Rose for a VERY short, VERY cheap deal, that might not be the worst thing in the world. With Melo off of the roster (which I think is 100% guaranteed one way or another), this team is going to lose games and will get a high pick with or without Rose. Rose could still be moved if he's playing decently.
i think they end absorbing rubio into space and he os the point. guard for a couple of years while frank develops...
you could easily play frank and rubio together
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his career without a title.
I think that kind of crystallized the mixed feelings about Melo from GMs around the league.
I think that's wild speculation.
Melo hasnt been traded because Melo wont allow himself to be traded. Nothing more to see.
The internet about melted down with Kristaps trade rumors. Even when Melo was trying to brute force his way out of Denver as a 26 year old the NBA landscape didn't go that crazy with teams thirsty to make offers.
I don't think teams in general have ever really thought of Melo as anything significantly more than the "selfish, volume scorer, inefficient, no defense" narrative that's always followed him. There was just more interest when he was averaging 27-28ppg.
Even his big free agency tour was, what, three teams? And three teams who had a track record of bad decisions.
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his career without a title.
I think that kind of crystallized the mixed feelings about Melo from GMs around the league.
I think that's wild speculation.
Melo hasnt been traded because Melo wont allow himself to be traded. Nothing more to see.
The internet about melted down with Kristaps trade rumors. Even when Melo was trying to brute force his way out of Denver as a 26 year old the NBA landscape didn't go that crazy with teams thirsty to make offers.
I don't think teams in general have ever really thought of Melo as anything significantly more than the "selfish, volume scorer, inefficient, no defense" narrative that's always followed him. There was just more interest when he was averaging 27-28ppg.
Even his big free agency tour was, what, three teams? And three teams who had a track record of bad decisions.
The Lakers, Bulls, Rockets and Mavs have a track record of bad decisions?