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superspynyg : 6/27/2017 12:32 pm
With July only 3 days away, this is when trade rumors and speculation starts to take off.

Feel free to post anything about any team.

Several teams interested in A's ace Sonny Gray. Cubs, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Mariners and Braves (WHAT????) all have sent scouts to watch him pitch. No Yankees who need pitching help the most.

San Fran is said to be huge sellers this season. The only untouchables are said to be SP Bumgardner, C/1b Posey and SS Crawford. They could get a huge return for SP Johnny Cueto and Closer Melancon. Cueto has already said he plans to opt out of his deal this offseason and be free agent. Brandon Belt might also catch a good price.


Any thoughts or other rumors?
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arcarsenal : 6/27/2017 12:34 pm : link
Cueto would probably be a good fit for Houston.
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superspynyg : 6/27/2017 12:36 pm : link
In comment 13512484 arcarsenal said:
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Cueto would probably be a good fit for Houston.


Agreed. They have a young corp of hitters. kind of like when he was with the Royals.
very curious as to what Cashman does  
UConn4523 : 6/27/2017 12:36 pm : link
or doesn't do in regards to adding another starting pitcher.
RE: very curious as to what Cashman does  
superspynyg : 6/27/2017 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13512489 UConn4523 said:
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or doesn't do in regards to adding another starting pitcher.


I think adding bull pen help is gaining ground. Pen almost blew it last night again. After Chapman and Betances its getting scary.
re Yankees  
RasputinPrime : 6/27/2017 12:50 pm : link
The rotation is the problem that causes the BP to be an issue. We could really use a reliable starter but I think the cost is going to be prohibitive. I'd rather stay the course.
getting another BP arm  
UConn4523 : 6/27/2017 12:55 pm : link
would be foolish, IMO. A few guys have had some rocky outings but that won't be the reason why they don't advance in the playoffs. They need another starter that can give quality starts both now and in the playoffs.
RE: re Yankees  
superspynyg : 6/27/2017 1:06 pm : link
In comment 13512503 RasputinPrime said:
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The rotation is the problem that causes the BP to be an issue. We could really use a reliable starter but I think the cost is going to be prohibitive. I'd rather stay the course.


I have been on the add SP bandwagon since the season started. But last nights 6-1 lead in the 9th which turned into a 6-5 win was not the first time out pen (other than Betances and Chapman) has blown it.
The Yankees need to stay the course  
GiantJake : 6/27/2017 1:08 pm : link
Teams will be asking for the moon for even a mediocre pitcher at this point. This team is still not a finished product. Let this team learn and grow and fight. Don't give away assets right now. Bring up the kids. Let Wade play, bring up Adams or Caleb Smith to start a game if you have to. This team is not a championship team right now, but it is headed in the right direction. No reason to make a rash move. Stay the course, keep the faith and develop the kids...don't trade them.
I also would like to stay the course  
UConn4523 : 6/27/2017 1:14 pm : link
CC comes off the books after this year as does Holiday so they can spend after the season without giving up prospects.
RE: The Yankees need to stay the course  
superspynyg : 6/27/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13512520 GiantJake said:
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Teams will be asking for the moon for even a mediocre pitcher at this point. This team is still not a finished product. Let this team learn and grow and fight. Don't give away assets right now. Bring up the kids. Let Wade play, bring up Adams or Caleb Smith to start a game if you have to. This team is not a championship team right now, but it is headed in the right direction. No reason to make a rash move. Stay the course, keep the faith and develop the kids...don't trade them.


No one is saying too sell the farm but you can get a solid arm for a good price. Stay the course...

young Outfielders:
Hicks
Fraiser
Judge
Florial
Williams
Fowler
Rutherford

Where are you going to play all these guys??
That's 7 OF's for 4 spots (3 starters and 1 reserve)

Now I know that Florial will not be ready for a few years but You can package Hicks (who I love) and say Williams plus a inf prospect (not Wade or Torres) for a starting pitcher and still have a future of

1b Bird
C Sanchez
2b Castro
SS Didi
3b Torres
OF Fraiser
OF Judge
OF Rutherford
Utility Wade

and compete now as well as later.

RE: RE: The Yankees need to stay the course  
RasputinPrime : 6/27/2017 1:25 pm : link
In comment 13512531 superspynyg said:
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In comment 13512520 GiantJake said:


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Teams will be asking for the moon for even a mediocre pitcher at this point. This team is still not a finished product. Let this team learn and grow and fight. Don't give away assets right now. Bring up the kids. Let Wade play, bring up Adams or Caleb Smith to start a game if you have to. This team is not a championship team right now, but it is headed in the right direction. No reason to make a rash move. Stay the course, keep the faith and develop the kids...don't trade them.



No one is saying too sell the farm but you can get a solid arm for a good price. Stay the course...

young Outfielders:
Hicks
Fraiser
Judge
Florial
Williams
Fowler
Rutherford

Where are you going to play all these guys??
That's 7 OF's for 4 spots (3 starters and 1 reserve)

Now I know that Florial will not be ready for a few years but You can package Hicks (who I love) and say Williams plus a inf prospect (not Wade or Torres) for a starting pitcher and still have a future of

1b Bird
C Sanchez
2b Castro
SS Didi
3b Torres
OF Fraiser
OF Judge
OF Rutherford
Utility Wade

and compete now as well as later.


You are going to need someone that loves Hicks to make that work and as much as we are thrilled to see him playing in 2017 the way he has, I'm not sure another franchise will look at his line and buy high on him. Good in theory but i'm not sure it is realistic.
RE: RE: RE: The Yankees need to stay the course  
superspynyg : 6/27/2017 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13512535 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 13512531 superspynyg said:


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In comment 13512520 GiantJake said:


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Teams will be asking for the moon for even a mediocre pitcher at this point. This team is still not a finished product. Let this team learn and grow and fight. Don't give away assets right now. Bring up the kids. Let Wade play, bring up Adams or Caleb Smith to start a game if you have to. This team is not a championship team right now, but it is headed in the right direction. No reason to make a rash move. Stay the course, keep the faith and develop the kids...don't trade them.



No one is saying too sell the farm but you can get a solid arm for a good price. Stay the course...

young Outfielders:
Hicks
Fraiser
Judge
Florial
Williams
Fowler
Rutherford

Where are you going to play all these guys??
That's 7 OF's for 4 spots (3 starters and 1 reserve)

Now I know that Florial will not be ready for a few years but You can package Hicks (who I love) and say Williams plus a inf prospect (not Wade or Torres) for a starting pitcher and still have a future of

1b Bird
C Sanchez
2b Castro
SS Didi
3b Torres
OF Fraiser
OF Judge
OF Rutherford
Utility Wade

and compete now as well as later.




You are going to need someone that loves Hicks to make that work and as much as we are thrilled to see him playing in 2017 the way he has, I'm not sure another franchise will look at his line and buy high on him. Good in theory but i'm not sure it is realistic.


That's why you package him with a mid range prospect or two for a solid (notice not I did not say top line) pitcher. One that may give up 2-3 runs a game but will take you at least 6-7 most starts to get to our pen.
Amazing how deep our system is.  
bceagle05 : 6/27/2017 2:06 pm : link
Florial was just a name to me until yesterday when someone posted info and a video about him in the Yankees thread. Didn't realize he's projected to be on par with some of our top guys.
When you talk about adding a "mid-level" pitcher....  
Tesla : 6/27/2017 2:18 pm : link
who do you think they'd replace in the rotations once CC is back? Pineda, maybe? Would the guy they get even really be a better pitcher than Pineda?

Unless they suffer another injury I don't see the point in pursing another mid-rotation pitcher....we have enough of those already.
RE: Amazing how deep our system is.  
dune69 : 6/27/2017 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13512570 bceagle05 said:
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Florial was just a name to me until yesterday when someone posted info and a video about him in the Yankees thread. Didn't realize he's projected to be on par with some of our top guys.


Florial has amazing potential as does Rutherford. There are some names at the lower level that may be talked about more in the coming year or two. Gary Denbo and the Yankees brass have to be proud of the dramatic turn around of our farm. We have some good talent that can be cost controlled for several years. It will be a matter of keeping the right combination and moving the right pieces or losing them in Rule 5 draft.
Yanks  
PaulN : 6/27/2017 3:57 pm : link
Must learn what they have and don't have, are you willing to stay with Castro and DiDi as our second baseman and shortstop, That is why getting players here and seeing how they respond is what is most important, I am not sold on Castro, and DiDi is not ever going to be a high on base percentage guy. What happens when they stop hitting, hit a slump, can they get out of it, I like DiDi more then Castro at this point, I will say that, Castro is not a very good defensive player on top of an impatient hitter that can be pitched to every time with low outside breaking balls. He lives off mistakes. But he may still develop, this is the time to find out about a player. Now with things going bad. I am not interested in selling any of our top prospects, this season should be all about development and development only. The team is plenty competitive, it's time to straighten out the 40 man roster and start getting players up here to compete. The players that are ready.
RE: When you talk about adding a  
Dankbeerman : 6/27/2017 5:01 pm : link
In comment 13512585 Tesla said:
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who do you think they'd replace in the rotations once CC is back? Pineda, maybe? Would the guy they get even really be a better pitcher than Pineda?

Unless they suffer another injury I don't see the point in pursing another mid-rotation pitcher....we have enough of those already.


sevirino and montgomery will have i nings limits. and extra arm helps bug time, plus if he is under co tract for 2018 it helps si ce 3/5 of the rotation is a fa.
Unless they can land a #1 or #2 starting pitcher...  
Milton : 6/27/2017 9:17 pm : link
...who is not just a one year rental, I favor staying the course and hoping for the best in terms of who's hot and who's not come October. And I wouldn't be in a rush to harvest the young prospects either (i.e, Andujar, Adams) if the braintrust thinks more minor league seasoning is in order.
RE: Yanks  
Gatorade Dunk : 6/27/2017 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13512718 PaulN said:
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Must learn what they have and don't have, are you willing to stay with Castro and DiDi as our second baseman and shortstop, That is why getting players here and seeing how they respond is what is most important, I am not sold on Castro, and DiDi is not ever going to be a high on base percentage guy. What happens when they stop hitting, hit a slump, can they get out of it, I like DiDi more then Castro at this point, I will say that, Castro is not a very good defensive player on top of an impatient hitter that can be pitched to every time with low outside breaking balls. He lives off mistakes. But he may still develop, this is the time to find out about a player. Now with things going bad. I am not interested in selling any of our top prospects, this season should be all about development and development only. The team is plenty competitive, it's time to straighten out the 40 man roster and start getting players up here to compete. The players that are ready.

You do know that Didi doesn't capitalize both D's, right? I wouldn't expect accuracy from you in general, but this is a situation where you're putting more effort into getting it wrong than it would take to get it right.
I think the yanks look to add a bat  
djm : 6/27/2017 11:24 pm : link
Which won't cost as much as a pitcher would. They are getting nothing at first base.
RE: I think the yanks look to add a bat  
Milton : 6/28/2017 12:02 am : link
In comment 13513123 djm said:
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Which won't cost as much as a pitcher would. They are getting nothing at first base.
Only if they view him as a piece to the puzzle going forward and not just a one year rental. It comes down to how they view Bird's future.
Some of it will take care of itself..  
Dunedin81 : 6/28/2017 8:25 am : link
Aaron Hicks, for instance, will be an FA as Rutherford and Florial are likely to be ready. I like Mason Williams but I doubt very much he's in their everyday plans. Ditto Jake Cave. So you have five young OF for four spots (Judge, Fowler, Frazier, Florial, Rutherford), and one or more of them could easily be packaged for help elsewhere.
What..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/28/2017 8:31 am : link
is this even supposed to mean?

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Yanks
PaulN : 6/27/2017 3:57 pm : link : reply
Must learn what they have and don't have, are you willing to stay with Castro and DiDi as our second baseman and shortstop, That is why getting players here and seeing how they respond is what is most important, I am not sold on Castro, and DiDi is not ever going to be a high on base percentage guy. What happens when they stop hitting, hit a slump, can they get out of it, I like DiDi more then Castro at this point, I will say that, Castro is not a very good defensive player on top of an impatient hitter that can be pitched to every time with low outside breaking balls. He lives off mistakes. But he may still develop, this is the time to find out about a player. Now with things going bad. I am not interested in selling any of our top prospects, this season should be all about development and development only. The team is plenty competitive, it's time to straighten out the 40 man roster and start getting players up here to compete. The players that are ready.


Basically, two players who are pretty set at their positions right now are the ones you are questioning? Both Didi and Castro are more than adequate and guys you want to have as starters.
RE: Yanks  
Beer Man : 6/28/2017 9:40 am : link
In comment 13512718 PaulN said:
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Must learn what they have and don't have, are you willing to stay with Castro and DiDi as our second baseman and shortstop, That is why getting players here and seeing how they respond is what is most important, I am not sold on Castro, and DiDi is not ever going to be a high on base percentage guy. What happens when they stop hitting, hit a slump, can they get out of it, I like DiDi more then Castro at this point, I will say that, Castro is not a very good defensive player on top of an impatient hitter that can be pitched to every time with low outside breaking balls. He lives off mistakes. But he may still develop, this is the time to find out about a player. Now with things going bad. I am not interested in selling any of our top prospects, this season should be all about development and development only. The team is plenty competitive, it's time to straighten out the 40 man roster and start getting players up here to compete. The players that are ready.
As long as Didi and Castro continue to hit the way they are right now, both should be safe in their jobs and continue to start. Beyond that, Didi has been excellent with the glove. Having said this, it seems apparent that Torres will one day be the starting SS. IMO that will happen when Didi falters or if the team should decide to trade him while his value is high. As for second base, there are options in the minors, some who are probably better with the glove than Castro, but none who at the moment can produce at the plate like Castro (and I don't believe any of the 2Bs in the Yank's minors are ready for the big stage).
Ugh  
Jay on the Island : 6/28/2017 10:20 am : link
Atlanta is once again interested in Chris Archer, Quintana, and Gray. Unless they could buy low on Gray I hope that they pass on the other two. Quintana is having a down year but the Sox are still asking for a package close to Chris Sale's which is insane. The Rays can't trade Archer unless they fall out of the wildcard race so the asking price would be massive. Sean Newcomb has been fantastic so far for the Braves and they should build around him, Teheran, and Foltynewicz. Top prospects Kolby Allard, Mike Soroka, Lucas Sims, Luiz Gohara, and Max Fried will all likely be ready at some point next season so there is no reason to trade a few of them for 2 years of Archer or Quintana.
Freddie Freeman  
Jay on the Island : 6/28/2017 11:37 am : link
Is expected to return to the Braves lineup next week. He will return as the new third baseman. He will rehab in AAA on Saturday before re-joining the Braves at some point next week assuming everything goes accordingly. I have mixed feelings about this move but he can't be any worse than Adonis Garcia defensively.
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sure what the need is for Prado. We have Torreyes and now Wade.
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