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NFT: TJ Miller Unloads in Interview

Boy Cord : 6/27/2017 10:30 pm
Erlich Bachman is one of my favorite screen characters of all time as the foul-mouthed, pu$$y-loving, drug-using eccentric.

After reading this article, I feel it is the right time for his character to move on.

Miller comes off as a spurned lover in this interview, and I get why. Lots of egos involved. He takes some shots both direct and indirect.
Bachmanity Insanity - ( New Window )
I love him and th character but he didn't want  
LauderdaleMatty : 6/27/2017 11:27 pm : link
A reduced role and w all the other obligations and things he wants to do they are supposed to do what?

Great show
Thought this was a Ranger thread  
Rob in Rockaway : 6/27/2017 11:33 pm : link
no idea who this guy is. Carry on...
To each their own  
Eric on Li : 6/27/2017 11:48 pm : link
but I don't think he's coming off well at all. Crapping on HBO is like leaving the Patriots because they haven't won enough Super Bowls. And that's while they were trying to be accommodating of him no less. Kind of reminds me Jackie leaving the Howard Stern show.
he's an asshole  
Jints in Carolina : 6/27/2017 11:50 pm : link
nothing new...i do like his roles, but he comes off as an asshole a lot.
Yeah, loved the Erlich character  
Davisian : 6/27/2017 11:57 pm : link
But after the last couple interviews and that Netflix "special" , I'm starting to get a Tom Greene vibe from TJ..

Like he knows he doesn't have the chops for a long career, so just be an obnoxious dick and ride it out until they stop paying you for it..

Have no idea who TJ Miller is  
BlackLight : 6/28/2017 3:03 am : link
Saw the thread title, and immediately thought of TJ Mackey, and his interview scene in Magnolia.
I listened to some podcasts with him  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 6/28/2017 6:10 am : link
That gave me some context on this article. Guy is doing a million different things and this doesn't fit into what he wants to do. Getting pressure from family to spend more time together. He ultimately is a pretty quirky guy who doesn't fit comfortably in doing one thing.

I didn't see any animosity in the article so much as him making small jokes in his stream of consciousness way of talking. I thought he was taking a shot at the one actor but it turns out they have worked together for years. There is a bit of smugness about him in other things that comes through here.
I think he's sticking to his character in part  
UConn4523 : 6/28/2017 7:31 am : link
but he's also not good enough to demand anything. His stand up special is awful and he's only good in small doses in all his other work. 3-5 minutes of Bachman per episode is my max anyway.
this guy falls into the category  
Enzo : 6/28/2017 8:20 am : link
of actors who, when I look at them, I wonder - how did you manage to get famous?
RE: this guy falls into the category  
Sonic Youth : 6/28/2017 8:55 am : link
In comment 13513289 Enzo said:
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of actors who, when I look at them, I wonder - how did you manage to get famous?
it's almost like people have different opinions on comedy as it's subjective! Or that he's a popular character on a massively popular show!

Anyway, he comes off as an asshole, but it's common knowledge he is a stand-up not an actor so this isn't all that surprising.
Where does this rank on all time bad career decisions?  
Pete in 'Vliet : 6/28/2017 9:05 am : link
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Don’t you want three more years of solid acting work and don’t you want to be a famous television actor?” And I was like, “No, not really.” I’d like to parasail into the Cannes Film Festival for The Emoji Movie because that’s the next new funny thing that will make people laugh.
I watched his HBO stand up show a few weeks ago  
lono801 : 6/28/2017 9:08 am : link
I think I chuckled once...a yawnfest.
RE: I watched his HBO stand up show a few weeks ago  
UConn4523 : 6/28/2017 9:14 am : link
In comment 13513347 lono801 said:
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I think I chuckled once...a yawnfest.


It was brutal. And I really wanted to like it but it was just bad.
I wouldn't say I'm a TJ Miller fan  
pjcas18 : 6/28/2017 9:19 am : link
I thought he was the guy who played Napoleon Dynamite all grown up the first time I saw him, but on Silicon Valley he carried the show.

Especially this season. I've never seen his standup other than bits of it in the HBO show crashing which he played himself and I thought he was pretty funny in that role.

I'm not comparing him to Steve Carell, but him leaving Silicon Valley I think of as akin to Michael Scott leaving the Office.

the other characters are funny, Richard the straight man, Gilfoyle the dead pan, Jared (in small doses is great, Dinesh the self deprecating Indian, Jian Yang the hilariously unintentionally funny foreigner, big head, they are supporting characters - and they could use more Monica.

Bachman was the alpha.

the main thing I didn't like about the interview was Miller taking shots at Alec Berg. I have no clue who Alec Berg is other than Miller's comments about him and Seinfeld, but Hollywood (from my outsiders view) is a small community and burning bridges never seems smart to me.

The rest of it, he's got like 5 or 6 movies and other projects in production, you can't do everything, so you move on.
Bad standup..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/28/2017 9:20 am : link
is a killer for me. There are so many excellent stand-up comedians who have to toil in obscurity that whenever there's a special, it should be a non-stop laughfest. There's really no excuse for ever featuring an unfunny comic.

But Aubrey Plaza keeps getting stand-up gigs, so go figure.
Silicon Valley is hitting a wall anyway  
UConn4523 : 6/28/2017 9:26 am : link
that finale kinda stunk (atleast for me) and I'm not sure how much longer it will be a quality show with or without Bachman. It was a good time for him to leave, IMO.
He's kind of an oddball - I think the interview was OK  
jcn56 : 6/28/2017 9:30 am : link
he's busy, doesn't want to commit to a full season, they offered him a bit part, he didn't want it, both sides moved on but they left the door open to his return if he wants it based on how they wrote the season finale.

The only part in there that would suggest animosity are the shots at Alec Berg. Unless there's an inside joke there those were bridge burning type comments.
RE: Silicon Valley is hitting a wall anyway  
ron mexico : 6/28/2017 9:41 am : link
In comment 13513377 UConn4523 said:
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that finale kinda stunk (atleast for me) and I'm not sure how much longer it will be a quality show with or without Bachman. It was a good time for him to leave, IMO.


Agreed, it's just not funny anymore. I understand why the writers are turning Richard into a dick but it's just not funny.
It seems like he has contempt for the role and the show  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2017 9:55 am : link
That's what's bizarre. The guy has been in Hollywood for over a decade in 100's of roles that didn't get any attention, now he lands/delivers one of the best characters on tv and he acts like it's like it was an inconvenience. No confrontation, no crying foul re: the negotiation, just took a side door out of the picture, apparently as they were working to adjust the show's schedule to his. Again, to each his own, but just doesn't come off well.
That was a strange interview.  
j_rud : 6/28/2017 9:57 am : link
He's complimentary of the show, then he makes backhanded comments about the show. He compliments the other actors, then kinda talks like he's doing them a favor by leaving. He says he's not an actor, but he's got a handful of movies in the pipeline, including a dramatic modernization of Walden. He comes off as a guy with a huge ego trying very hard to be diplomatic, in a mostly failing effort.

For me he works in small doses. 5 minutes or so of Ehrlich is great. More than that is just grating. I also thought he was really good in his little arc on Crashing. But he's not a guy who I think can carry a movie, and his stand up is atrocious. The recent special was unwatchable. The Spanish atm bit and the whole "snerd" thing? That's the rare type of bad comedy that has the ability to make you angry in its sheer stupidity, and proof that for some people marijuana is just not creative fuel. But what do I know, he's hit the high point of an HBO special and is selling out big venues. Then again, so was Dane Cook.
At least..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/28/2017 10:07 am : link
Dane Cook had some funny bits, even if they were ripped off of other people.
I think Miller is being very naive  
Pete in 'Vliet : 6/28/2017 10:09 am : link
to think his current sucess will continue much longer. All popular comedians go through a stage where they have too many opportunities to accept them all. At some point soon someone new will come along and those offers dry up.

Maybe he sees the writing on the wall for Silicon Valley and is leaving at its height, but he had his perfect niche in that show (funny stoner side character). And its much more reliable than banking on "The Emoji Movie".

I think hes taking a huge gamble trying to transition from "goofy friend" to popular stand-up guy and lead actor. We'll see I guess. He still has his "goofy freind" role in the Deadpool sequels to fall back on if things don't work out.

I still think that interview  
UConn4523 : 6/28/2017 10:12 am : link
was "in character". Hard to know without seeing the actual interview.
I like TJ Miller as a supporting character  
Jay on the Island : 6/28/2017 11:05 am : link
but he isn't a lead comedian. I never saw his HBO special because the previews looked awkward. If those are the highlights of the special then the show must be pretty terrible.
I'm not kidding..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 6/28/2017 11:07 am : link
when I say that his stand-up special might have been one of the worst specials for comedy I've ever seen. It's like he was given the gig without anyone hearing him perform before.

Maybe a half-chuckle the entire time, and I think I even forced it. It was so bad, I kept thinking it HAD to get better, only to get shit on with each successive attempt at a joke.
RE: I think Miller is being very naive  
Sonic Youth : 6/28/2017 11:13 am : link
In comment 13513437 Pete in 'Vliet said:
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to think his current sucess will continue much longer. All popular comedians go through a stage where they have too many opportunities to accept them all. At some point soon someone new will come along and those offers dry up.

Maybe he sees the writing on the wall for Silicon Valley and is leaving at its height, but he had his perfect niche in that show (funny stoner side character). And its much more reliable than banking on "The Emoji Movie".

I think hes taking a huge gamble trying to transition from "goofy friend" to popular stand-up guy and lead actor. We'll see I guess. He still has his "goofy freind" role in the Deadpool sequels to fall back on if things don't work out.
lead guy, yes, I get it...but he's already a popular stand-up and has been.

The silicon guys were pretty accomplished in comedy circles before the show. Kumail najnani is a great stand up, and Zach woods is an improv legend
As an aside  
Sonic Youth : 6/28/2017 11:13 am : link
I'm not a big fan of his standup, just saying it's popular. I tried his podcast to and couldn't get into it
RE: I'm not kidding..  
chopperhatch : 6/28/2017 11:21 am : link
In comment 13513552 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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when I say that his stand-up special might have been one of the worst specials for comedy I've ever seen. It's like he was given the gig without anyone hearing him perform before.

Maybe a half-chuckle the entire time, and I think I even forced it. It was so bad, I kept thinking it HAD to get better, only to get shit on with each successive attempt at a joke.


I agree. I was so fired up to watch it and then I spent the majority of time on my phone.
Ehrlich was getting  
Rover : 6/28/2017 11:52 am : link
very predictable & old. I think the "boys" outgrew him 2 seasons ago.
RE: I listened to some podcasts with him  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/28/2017 11:56 am : link
In comment 13513221 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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That gave me some context on this article. Guy is doing a million different things and this doesn't fit into what he wants to do. Getting pressure from family to spend more time together. He ultimately is a pretty quirky guy who doesn't fit comfortably in doing one thing.

I didn't see any animosity in the article so much as him making small jokes in his stream of consciousness way of talking. I thought he was taking a shot at the one actor but it turns out they have worked together for years. There is a bit of smugness about him in other things that comes through here.


This was how I interpreted it as well
TJ Miller is like Andy Kauffman, he's ALWAYS performing  
Ben in Tampa : 6/28/2017 2:35 pm : link
His shtick is 24/7
It's never a good idea to burn bridges  
RobCarpenter : 6/28/2017 2:58 pm : link
People have very, very long memories.

Why did Miller feel the need to say "I didn’t talk to Alec [Berg] because I don’t like Alec"? Or later "I don’t know how smart [Alec] is. He went to Harvard, and we all know those kids are f—ing idiots. That Crimson trash. Those comedy writers in Hollywood are f—ing Harvard graduates and that’s why they’re smug as a bug."

See you in five years on a Lifetime movie of the week.
RE: To each their own  
santacruzom : 6/28/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13513160 Eric on Li said:
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but I don't think he's coming off well at all. Crapping on HBO is like leaving the Patriots because they haven't won enough Super Bowls.


Where does he crap on HBO? Here?

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HBO has never treated me as an employee, always as a collaborator. They were understanding and said, “Look, if you really think that this is the move and that you’ll be able to produce an hour special for us sooner than you would have if you were on the show, and if you feel right now under the current administration that you need to do stand-up because you need to be talking to the American public, then we support that." So they were very, very cool about it, and that final conversation was super friendly and sad. It was heartbreaking on my end.
RE: It's never a good idea to burn bridges  
PaulBlakeTSU : 6/28/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13513921 RobCarpenter said:
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People have very, very long memories.

Why did Miller feel the need to say "I didn’t talk to Alec [Berg] because I don’t like Alec"? Or later "I don’t know how smart [Alec] is. He went to Harvard, and we all know those kids are f—ing idiots. That Crimson trash. Those comedy writers in Hollywood are f—ing Harvard graduates and that’s why they’re smug as a bug."

See you in five years on a Lifetime movie of the week.


He was being facetious regarding the Harvard stuff.
RE: It's never a good idea to burn bridges  
UConn4523 : 6/28/2017 3:27 pm : link
In comment 13513921 RobCarpenter said:
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People have very, very long memories.

Why did Miller feel the need to say "I didn’t talk to Alec [Berg] because I don’t like Alec"? Or later "I don’t know how smart [Alec] is. He went to Harvard, and we all know those kids are f—ing idiots. That Crimson trash. Those comedy writers in Hollywood are f—ing Harvard graduates and that’s why they’re smug as a bug."

See you in five years on a Lifetime movie of the week.


Do you really think he's not in character here?

I'm not really a TJ Miller fan, pretty indifferent about him, but this seems like a statement his character makes, and wouldn't surprise me if it was a joke among the people named.

I'm more surprised that the interviewer didn't dig in on that statement and ask...
Well I guess I'm the only one who enjoyed the standup special  
Giants Fan in Steelers Land : 6/28/2017 5:00 pm : link
Ha
RE: RE: To each their own  
Eric on Li : 6/28/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13513941 santacruzom said:
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In comment 13513160 Eric on Li said:


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but I don't think he's coming off well at all. Crapping on HBO is like leaving the Patriots because they haven't won enough Super Bowls.



Where does he crap on HBO? Here?



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HBO has never treated me as an employee, always as a collaborator. They were understanding and said, “Look, if you really think that this is the move and that you’ll be able to produce an hour special for us sooner than you would have if you were on the show, and if you feel right now under the current administration that you need to do stand-up because you need to be talking to the American public, then we support that." So they were very, very cool about it, and that final conversation was super friendly and sad. It was heartbreaking on my end.



That's a fair point but kind of parsing - he said HBO is great but knocked their showrunner who is basically an HBO guy.
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