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“In a quest to find my personal independence, I had to find out where my ancestors came from. I set out tracing my African ancestral roots, and it lead me to Ghana. Upon finding out this information, I wanted to visit the sites responsible for myself (and many other Black folks in the African Diaspora) for being forced into the hells of the middle passage. I wanted to see a fraction of what they saw before reaching the point of no return. |
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He is not good enough to start anymore, and no one is going to put up with a backup QB with his baggage... |
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Quote: He is not good enough to start anymore, and no one is going to put up with a backup QB with his baggage... Hence the feeling he's being blacklisted by the league. You're saying he's not going to be a back up QB in this league BECAUSE of his 'baggage'. I'm not trying to imply that these teams don't have the right to do so... but that doesn't change the reason why he doesn't have a job right now. |
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In comment 13520233 T-Bone said: Quote: Quote: He is not good enough to start anymore, and no one is going to put up with a backup QB with his baggage... Hence the feeling he's being blacklisted by the league. You're saying he's not going to be a back up QB in this league BECAUSE of his 'baggage'. I'm not trying to imply that these teams don't have the right to do so... but that doesn't change the reason why he doesn't have a job right now. IMO and it's just my opinion, I respect everyone's opinionon this, it's a combination of the lack of talent and publicity. If it was a scale it would be 80% talent and 20% media circus. but it starts with talent, if he had the talent to be a capable and successful starting QB in the NFL he'd have a job today. But I do think it's ok to not want a backup QB holding a clipboard on your sideline that is going to be a constant, or even occasional, distraction to your team. If that's means he's blackballed by your definition then I concede, but I feel blackballed is a more collusive effort to keep someone out. In Kaepernick's case I think each team evaluated and decided individually and reached the same conclusion...not worth it. Things could change, but I don't think it's wrong for teams to not want him as their backup. I also think to a lesser extent it's why Tim Tebow is playing baseball now. Tebow has more playoff victories than many starting QB's, but he's awful. Not a viable starting QB. But is he worse than all the backups in the league right now? I don't know. If there was no media circus around him I feel like there is a better chance he'd be on an NFL roster today. |
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and as usual on topics like this you make me think of things differently and I appreciate the time you take to respond. |
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In comment 13520362 pjcas18 said: Quote: and as usual on topics like this you make me think of things differently and I appreciate the time you take to respond. Likewise. Except when it comes to Fantasy Football. Your opinions suck donkey balls there. |
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In comment 13520385 T-Bone said: Quote: In comment 13520362 pjcas18 said: Quote: and as usual on topics like this you make me think of things differently and I appreciate the time you take to respond. Likewise. Except when it comes to Fantasy Football. Your opinions suck donkey balls there. Well when you're in 75 leagues like you, you're bound to win every now and then. kmed said he's reviving the BBI league, are you in? What's one more league? |
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great that NFL teams give him a lifetime to research his past and not play pro football. |
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In comment 13520034 jcn56 said: Quote: and he's not a very good QB. He's not being blacklisted because of his comments - this is a league who's PR machine works to keep convicted dog killers, rapists, drunk drivers and woman beaters employed. You really think if a team wanted Kaepernick they couldn't find a way to spin his comments down and get him on the field? Too many people concern themselves with color, but the wrong ones. It's not black, brown or white - it's green. If someone could profit off his play, he'd be out there tomorrow. Except that our very own team's owner pretty much came out and admitted that they wouldn't consider signing Kaep because of the negative mail he's gotten over him. I think those who've been saying it's a combination of both are correct.. it's because of his comments/actions AND because he's not seen as a top tier QB. More than the former than the latter. If Kaep never kneels during the anthem... he's on a roster right now. |
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He deserves his fate because white people are the arbiters of what is right and wrong in American society. That's because we have been here the longest - please don't make it about race. America is about freedom, the best military in the history of the world and the best athletes in the world, the bravest people. Takes no bravery to turn tail and head to Ghana IMO. |
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In comment 13520067 T-Bone said: Quote: In comment 13520034 jcn56 said: Quote: and he's not a very good QB. He's not being blacklisted because of his comments - this is a league who's PR machine works to keep convicted dog killers, rapists, drunk drivers and woman beaters employed. You really think if a team wanted Kaepernick they couldn't find a way to spin his comments down and get him on the field? Too many people concern themselves with color, but the wrong ones. It's not black, brown or white - it's green. If someone could profit off his play, he'd be out there tomorrow. Except that our very own team's owner pretty much came out and admitted that they wouldn't consider signing Kaep because of the negative mail he's gotten over him. I think those who've been saying it's a combination of both are correct.. it's because of his comments/actions AND because he's not seen as a top tier QB. More than the former than the latter. If Kaep never kneels during the anthem... he's on a roster right now. T-Bone, don't be quick to believe what some of these guys say. Mara seems like a good enough guy, but he had Josh Brown on the payroll. If Kaepernick was good enough, someone - if not Mara, then someone else, would be willing to give him a shot. Right now, he's in the same bucket Tebow would be - the player isn't good enough to warrant the PR damage he'd incur. |
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a look at backups across the league. They aren't usually guys who recently had a starting gig and/or are talented enough to lead a team full time. They are journeymen backups or projects. They are the Derek Anderson's or TJ Yates's. I really don't think too many teams have a QB as a backup who is truly the starter in waiting or even a guy they want to be the starter anytime soon. Why?? Because they don't need teh constant battle in practice with the backup trying to earn a starting spot. They don't want the controversy. They want the backup to carry a clipboard, work out the 2nd stringers, and be there for an emergency. They don't want him to be the focus of attention, either on game day or during the week. Kaep will be the focus of attention. |
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There are a lot of guys who aren't backups, but are certainly better than the current backups. |
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I wouldn't characterize it as being "too good" to be a backup, but if you have an established QB, you aren't looking to have a guy on the team who aspires to be a starter. |
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Look at the backup QB's the Giants have had. Jason Garrett, David Carr, Ryan Nassib, Curtis Painter, Jared Lorenzen. People aren't really going to have an argument to say those QB's were the next best QB available to them in the pool of QB's are they? Just look at how people still talk about the bad blood with Kurt Warner when his role became as a backup. |
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The Pats had Matt Cassel as a backup - once he took over for an injured Brady, he didn't go back to backup, he tried to go and ve a starter elsewhere, with mixed results. |
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Guys like that are all over the place. Rob Johnson? Josh McCown? Brandon Weeden? These guys aren't the best out of the pool of QB's in the universe. |
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He deserves his fate because white people are the arbiters of what is right and wrong in American society. That's because we have been here the longest - please don't make it about race. America is about freedom, the best military in the history of the world and the best athletes in the world, the bravest people. Takes no bravery to turn tail and head to Ghana IMO. |
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In comment 13520668 LCtheINTMachine said: Quote: He deserves his fate because white people are the arbiters of what is right and wrong in American society. That's because we have been here the longest - please don't make it about race. America is about freedom, the best military in the history of the world and the best athletes in the world, the bravest people. Takes no bravery to turn tail and head to Ghana IMO. How the hell did I miss this gem? |
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I probably should have ignored it, but it just jumped off the screen and slapped me harder than my high school prom date did. |
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Colin is an idiot LCtheINTMachine : 6/19/2017 12:33 pm : link : reply He hurt himself while the plus side is that no black player will ever speak up again - and nor should they. They are being paid millions of dollars to damage their brains so they aren't the smartest tools in the shed anyway. |
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And he diminished his skill set when he lost his physicality. If I am a tanking team I would definitely sign him- especially if I run a precision passing game |
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In comment 13521400 hitdog42 said: Quote: And he diminished his skill set when he lost his physicality. If I am a tanking team I would definitely sign him- especially if I run a precision passing game I'm not sure if you can definitively state this as a fact. He's only worked under two different offensive schemes (I believe) and one of them has proven not to be all that effective in the NFL or else the guy who brought it here (Chip Kelly) would still have a job. If given the chance to run another offense and he bombs, then I probably wouldn't argue. |
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Colin Kaepernick has hit rock bottom. After an abysmal start to the season, he has been benched (mercifully, some might say) for Blaine Gabbert. Yes, the very same Blaine Gabbert who was drafted 10th overall by the Jaguars and made 27 mostly forgettable starts before he was traded to the 49ers for a sixth-round pick in March 2014. |
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But Kaepernick had been that bad. Through two months, he ranked 32nd among all starting quarterbacks, according to Football Outsiders (that's a list that includes out-of-work Ryan Mallet), and as recently as last week former 49ers great Jerry Rice called for Kaepernick to grab some pine, at least for a while, "to energize the team." On Wednesday, coach Jim Tomsula offered a similar explanation, calling the benching "a tough decision but I feel it's the direction we need to go." And adding that the move will hopefully benefit Kaepernick in the long run because it will allow him to "step back and breathe and look at things through a different lens." "I felt like this was the direction we needed to go," Tomsula continued, via NFL.com. "In no way is 2-6 all on Colin Kaepernick. That's on all of us. This is a guy I think has talent ... I just want him to step back, keep working." |
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kenneth arthurVerified account @KennethArthuRS 2012: "Colin Kaepernick is better than Russell Wilson" 2013: "Theyre equals" 2014: "RW is better" 2015: "Blaine Gabbert is better than Kap" 10:48 PM - 2 Nov 2015 |
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In comment 13521405 T-Bone said: Quote: In comment 13521400 hitdog42 said: Quote: And he diminished his skill set when he lost his physicality. If I am a tanking team I would definitely sign him- especially if I run a precision passing game I'm not sure if you can definitively state this as a fact. He's only worked under two different offensive schemes (I believe) and one of them has proven not to be all that effective in the NFL or else the guy who brought it here (Chip Kelly) would still have a job. If given the chance to run another offense and he bombs, then I probably wouldn't argue. Granted his team was awful, but he did lose his starters job to Blaine Gabbert under Jim Tomsula: Quote: Colin Kaepernick has hit rock bottom. After an abysmal start to the season, he has been benched (mercifully, some might say) for Blaine Gabbert. Yes, the very same Blaine Gabbert who was drafted 10th overall by the Jaguars and made 27 mostly forgettable starts before he was traded to the 49ers for a sixth-round pick in March 2014. Quote: But Kaepernick had been that bad. Through two months, he ranked 32nd among all starting quarterbacks, according to Football Outsiders (that's a list that includes out-of-work Ryan Mallet), and as recently as last week former 49ers great Jerry Rice called for Kaepernick to grab some pine, at least for a while, "to energize the team." On Wednesday, coach Jim Tomsula offered a similar explanation, calling the benching "a tough decision but I feel it's the direction we need to go." And adding that the move will hopefully benefit Kaepernick in the long run because it will allow him to "step back and breathe and look at things through a different lens." "I felt like this was the direction we needed to go," Tomsula continued, via NFL.com. "In no way is 2-6 all on Colin Kaepernick. That's on all of us. This is a guy I think has talent ... I just want him to step back, keep working." I think this tweet sums up Kaepernick's lofty status and descent pretty humorously. and this benching was pre-kneeling. Quote: kenneth arthurVerified account @KennethArthuRS 2012: "Colin Kaepernick is better than Russell Wilson" 2013: "Theyre equals" 2014: "RW is better" 2015: "Blaine Gabbert is better than Kap" 10:48 PM - 2 Nov 2015 |
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I still don't know if someone can accurately say 'he has no talent' considering his past and some of the circumstances he was in but you have a right to that opinion just as I do mine. |
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In comment 13521448 T-Bone said: Quote: I still don't know if someone can accurately say 'he has no talent' considering his past and some of the circumstances he was in but you have a right to that opinion just as I do mine. He doesn't have enough talent. IMO. to warrant the distraction. Not that he has no talent. |
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in fact, I do not believe, his skills are such that no team should not even give him a shot as their reserve QB, even an extra arm for camp. The only reason I think he's not given a shot is his views and how he expresses them. That is un-American. |
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just like his other ignorant displays of history, his metaphor is terribly misused. He's an adopted kid who was raised as an intelligent person, who had an athletic scholarship and became an NFL player. Exactly what bearing do sites in Ghana have on him personally? It would be like me visiting a village in Italy where Mussolini hung people and claim that I can feel the ropes around my neck while standing in the Piazza. |
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Quote: Africans came here against their will, stripped of dignity and culture. They were unable to pass the lessons, food, religion and language of their ancestors on. This pertains to a mixed race guy adopted by whites in what manner? My point is that Kaep wants people to believe that his Ghanian heritage somehow is responsible for him being forced into the hells of middle passage, while for the most part of his life, he's had a silver spoon blocking his anus. You didn't grasp that from my post? |
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Again, what was the fucking point to start this thread. Him going to Ghana is the most innocuous thing to get on CK's ass about. |
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between you tracing your italian roots to people who were brought over to the States without much choice. You're a tone deaf fucktard. Have a nice Sunday. Fat fuck. |