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One of the Wins that Never Goes Away . . .

Ralph.C : 7/5/2017 6:43 pm
Pardon my waxing philosophical but I believe that the extreme exhileration and/or devastation of Giant wins and losses over the years can be stored in you emotionally just as real life-events are. The despair of certain losses stay with you forever as does the exhilaration of certain wins.

For those of you who remember 1990, this is likely one of those exhilarating wins that stays with you.

The quality of the video is terrific, too:

Enjoy!
6-0 for th first time in Team history - ( New Window )
Man, I loved that team! Physically and mentally as tough as nails.  
Klaatu : 7/5/2017 7:08 pm : link
Thanks for posting this, Ralph.
Great  
ColHowPepper : 7/5/2017 7:35 pm : link
You just have the sense that that team knew it was bound for something big. Redskins in the hunt, but the win kept the Giants two games ahead. Did you see the 49ers 4th Quarter score, romping, it was all setting up.

On Hoss' first scramble on the drive for the TD that put them within a FG how Riesenberg (I think it was), so mobile, came from nowhere in the busted pocket and plastered the Cards' rusher.

Also noticeable, comparatively, the complete absence of on-screen graphics.

And Tuna, looking pretty svelte, always under control, that team was under his control. Loved the Tuna. Thanks, Ralph, all the elements of my handle out there.
Important win  
bluepepper : 7/5/2017 7:48 pm : link
in that it gave the team confidence it could win with Hostetler. He had started and won a game the year before but leading a comeback in this one showed he had moxie as well as talent. I think that was something Parcells suspected he lacked.

Also, how weird is it to see a Giants QB running around like that? I really hope our next QB can do some of that. So tired of QB's killing us with their legs and our guys being stationery.
Enjoyed that.  
section125 : 7/5/2017 7:55 pm : link
So many drops and near Ints.

Hostetler was one hell of a backup QB. I think he'd do well even today.
very enjoyable to watch - thanks for posting it!  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2017 8:05 pm : link
Boy, you forget how athletic Hostetler was - and fearless too. Good QB, we were lucky to have him as a "backup."
Great call  
LCtheINTMachine : 7/5/2017 8:06 pm : link
by Joe Bugel on that bootleg but that Guyton character made a helluva play to tackle the QB short.

Too bad Dave Meggett is such a despicable piece of shit.
RE: Great  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2017 8:08 pm : link
In comment 13520516 ColHowPepper said:
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Also noticeable, comparatively, the complete absence of on-screen graphics.


Yes, very preferable visually to today's NFL product.
Wow, that was fun!  
Mark C : 7/5/2017 8:41 pm : link
I was at that game. Love that scene at the end, with a very svelte-looking Parcells sprinting off the field. He was pumped.
RE: Wow, that was fun!  
section125 : 7/5/2017 8:44 pm : link
In comment 13520573 Mark C said:
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I was at that game. Love that scene at the end, with a very svelte-looking Parcells sprinting off the field. He was pumped.


As well as Belichick and Crennel....BB looks like a college kid.
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Danny Kanell : 7/5/2017 8:52 pm : link
Remember it like it was yesterday. I was 13. My buddy was over watching the game, we're both leaning over in a praying position, Bahr hits it and he jumps up and elbows me in the nose. My mom's new carpet looked like a murder scene. Blood everywhere. Great times.
After parcells ran off the field  
mattnyg05 : 7/5/2017 9:24 pm : link
you can almost see Bugel mouthing "fucker" after looking for him, which is hilarious.

My dad called Bugel "the fugitive" after the Harrison Ford movie (since he looked like him). I found it so funny that he used that because he didn't know Harrison Fords name.
what a pleasure just to watch a game with no graphics  
gtt350 : 7/5/2017 9:45 pm : link
and no bloviating by the announcers. also the giants on the helmet.
Hoss an all time favorite for me
Hoss today, per wiki -  
Del Shofner : 7/5/2017 9:54 pm : link
Hostetler now lives in Morgantown, West Virginia, and owns a construction company. Hostetler is a descendant of the Amish-Mennonite immigrant, Jacob Hochstetler. With his wife, Vicky (the daughter of his college head coach), he has three sons. Hostetler graduated with a 3.85 GPA in Finance from West Virginia University. His nephew is Ryan Nehlen, who played wide receiver for the West Virginia Mountaineers.
Ingram  
watertown : 7/6/2017 12:41 am : link
Why didn't he let the kickoff go out of bounds at 5:38? They would have had the ball at the 40 instead of the 24.
glad you guys enjoyed!  
Ralph.C : 7/6/2017 3:45 am : link
Part of me wants to say "football had a much better feel to it back in those days."

But games during the 2007 and 2011 seasons had me biting my nails too. It's all about the games that impact you when you're young.

That being said: the way the network stayed with the game was great. You could sink your teeth into it!

Hostetler's run in 1990 is legendary and will never be forgotten.
RE: Ingram  
Ralph.C : 7/6/2017 4:12 am : link
In comment 13520692 watertown said:
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Why didn't he let the kickoff go out of bounds at 5:38? They would have had the ball at the 40 instead of the 24.


Because the football may have initially hit in bounds and then freakishly shifted direction inwards and been a live ball. It was the smart move to catch it.
Hoss imitating Eli  
MarvelousMike : 7/6/2017 7:21 am : link
I kept feeling like some of the throws and near intercepts were like Eli in some of his games. Too many balls close to being intercepted!
This is one of the top 10  
GiantsRage2007 : 7/6/2017 8:09 am : link
Non Playoff wins I can remember as a kid

Parcells running off the field at the end is classic

"Take it and run"
Yep  
gidiefor : Mod : 7/6/2017 9:36 am : link
that was an amazing win!
We lost our  
Doomster : 7/6/2017 9:40 am : link
starting QB, and our kicker, and we still won it all....a remarkable season.....

Holy crap! BB dressed neatly with no gut......

^  
ColHowPepper : 7/6/2017 11:05 am : link
as someone said above, BB looked like a callow teenager, but Bill was paying attention to him. Gosh, in his sideline demeanor with the Giants, Parcells was the anti-Coughlin. Things may not be going his way, but BP was always focused, intense but calm, thinking of next steps and the big picture for game strategy--at least that's how it seems to me.

Del, my favorite memory of Hoss was the SB that came at the end of that season: Giants were down behind, and I think it was just before the end of the first half, backed up near their own end zone. Hoss had rolled left (i.e., against his ability to throw right handed) 3 yards deep in the EZ and Bruce Smith had him in his sights, with no blocker between him and Hoss. Smith reaches out as Hoss pulls up and tries to dart back to his right, Smith grabs Hoss' right wrist, the ball in Hoss' right hand, effin' strong All Pro Bruce Smith has hold of Hoss right above the ball,...........
somehow, Hoss does not fumble in his own end zone and wriggles free, I think he throws the ball away. A Hoss fumble there would have been a game changer.
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gmenatlarge : 7/6/2017 11:08 am : link
In comment 13521007 ColHowPepper said:
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as someone said above, BB looked like a callow teenager, but Bill was paying attention to him. Gosh, in his sideline demeanor with the Giants, Parcells was the anti-Coughlin. Things may not be going his way, but BP was always focused, intense but calm, thinking of next steps and the big picture for game strategy--at least that's how it seems to me.

Del, my favorite memory of Hoss was the SB that came at the end of that season: Giants were down behind, and I think it was just before the end of the first half, backed up near their own end zone. Hoss had rolled left (i.e., against his ability to throw right handed) 3 yards deep in the EZ and Bruce Smith had him in his sights, with no blocker between him and Hoss. Smith reaches out as Hoss pulls up and tries to dart back to his right, Smith grabs Hoss' right wrist, the ball in Hoss' right hand, effin' strong All Pro Bruce Smith has hold of Hoss right above the ball,...........
somehow, Hoss does not fumble in his own end zone and wriggles free, I think he throws the ball away. A Hoss fumble there would have been a game changer.


Hoss was tackled for a safety, he said later that he thinks he got concussed on the play as he had no memory of holding onto the ball, HUGE play!!!
I will always remember this game  
T-Bone : 7/6/2017 11:11 am : link
but for a different reason.

I remember a girl I was dating was admitted into the hospital and we both watched the game together in her room. She wasn't really into football at the time but knew how much I loved the
Giants and let me watch it. I remember being so happy once we won the game that I accidentally knocked over her food on her bed and they had to come and swap out her sheets. She wasn't happy with me but was happy to see my team win and she became a Giants fan that day herself.
Thanks for posting Ralph  
Jimmy Googs : 7/6/2017 11:35 am : link
good memories...I was at that game.

Got to give a lot of kudos to Hoss. He really was a valuable asset as a backup QB and clearly showed it that season.

BTW - what the hell is Belicheck wearing? Not a good look for a DC.
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ColHowPepper : 7/6/2017 12:07 pm : link
In comment 13521009 gmenatlarge said:
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In comment 13521007 ColHowPepper said:
Quote: Smith grabs Hoss' right wrist, the ball in Hoss' right hand, effin' strong All Pro Bruce Smith has hold of Hoss right above the ball,...........
somehow, Hoss does not fumble in his own end zone and wriggles free, I think he throws the ball away. A Hoss fumble there would have been a game changer. /////

Hoss was tackled for a safety, he said later that he thinks he got concussed on the play as he had no memory of holding onto the ball, HUGE play!!!
gmenatlarge, right you are, how did I forget that? It's as if the fact he did not fumble made the play all ++. lol
Was it condisered  
Pete in MD : 7/6/2017 12:36 pm : link
rude at the time that Parcells ran off of the field without shaking hands with the other coach? I feel like the media would make a huge deal out of something like that today.

Other observations: The Cards' starting RB Johnny Johnson would later be the #1 RB for the Jets. The video starts with Al Del Greco kicking off. He would play for 10 more seasons after that one.
I can remember every play, every goosebump  
NYG007 : 7/6/2017 2:51 pm : link
From this game. Sitting next to my dad. Same place we still sit, nearly 40 years later. Watching every game together.

The only one he missed, Simms broke his leg vs Buffalo that seasons. He had to work, game was on a Saturday, was a weird timed game if I remember.
And here I was sure Ralph.C was referring to this one...  
George : 7/6/2017 4:07 pm : link
I remember it well.
Giants v. Broncos 1998 - ( New Window )
i had forgotten about that game  
xtian : 7/6/2017 4:13 pm : link
i do remember the giants and 49ers started off 10-0, then they both lost, and met on monday night football where the 49ers won 7-3. simms and lott got into a shoving screaming match. i think it was lott who picked off simms near the goal line to thwart the drive and ultimately seal the win.

i think hostetler is the giants best running QB ever--what a dimension he added! i'm not sure the giants win the SB with simms. he still had a fresh arm. though he had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long and get crushed.

Hoss got tired of sitting on the bench, so he begged parcells to let him play specials and WR. can you imagine that happening today?
lol, I think that kind've went away.  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/6/2017 4:48 pm : link
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RE: lol, I think that kind've went away.  
Ralph.C : 7/6/2017 10:53 pm : link
In comment 13521402 Mike in Long Beach said:
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C'mon Mike! It's remembered enough that anyone old enough enjoys talking about it!
RE: i had forgotten about that game  
Optimus-NY : 7/7/2017 7:00 am : link
In comment 13521363 xtian said:
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i do remember the giants and 49ers started off 10-0, then they both lost, and met on monday night football where the 49ers won 7-3. simms and lott got into a shoving screaming match. i think it was lott who picked off simms near the goal line to thwart the drive and ultimately seal the win.

i think hostetler is the giants best running QB ever--what a dimension he added! i'm not sure the giants win the SB with simms. he still had a fresh arm. though he had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long and get crushed.

Hoss got tired of sitting on the bench, so he begged parcells to let him play specials and WR. can you imagine that happening today?


That's not what happened regarding Lott. His old ass didn't intercept anything. Donnie Griffin knocked away Phil's 4th down pass on 4th and goal to go.
RE: RE: lol, I think that kind've went away.  
Mike in Long Beach : 7/7/2017 10:00 am : link
In comment 13521650 Ralph.C said:
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C'mon Mike! It's remembered enough that anyone old enough enjoys talking about it!


Hahahaha I know, I know. I'm just bustin' chops :)
Amazing just how close  
Beezer : 7/7/2017 10:36 am : link
things are, every NFL game. Could be one play, but it's typically numerous plays that are one half a tick away from completely turning the tide.

How many balls did Hoss throw that were a fingernail away from being picked off - on BOTH drives?
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